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Windows Vista Released To Manufacturing

Posted by kdawson on Thu Nov 09, 2006 08:42 AM
from the it's-a-wrap dept.
Operating Systems Software Windows
Many readers wrote in to make sure we know that Microsoft execs have signed off on the code and Windows Vista has been and released to manufacturing. As APC put it, "It's good to go — or as good as it is going to be until the first round of patching begins." CNN has a good roundup of Vista's long development history.
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LadyDarth writes "During a telephone conference with reporters yesterday, outgoing Microsoft co-president Jim Allchin, while touting the new security features of Windows Vista, which was released to manufacturing yesterday, told a reporter that the system's new lockdown features are so capable and thorough that he was comfortable with his own seven-year-old son using Vista without antivirus software installed."
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  • leaked (Score:4, Funny)

    by Turn-X Alphonse (789240) on Thursday November 09 2006, @08:44AM (#16783875) Journal
    Leaked in 3 2 1..

  • Good to go? (Score:5, Funny)

    by klogg_siebentag (652321) on Thursday November 09 2006, @08:45AM (#16783887)
    Woohoo, Vista is here! It must be 2003 already! Oh wait...

  • Norton Antivirus? (Score:3, Insightful)

    by bogaboga (793279) on Thursday November 09 2006, @08:45AM (#16783891)
    Have Symantec solved their issues with Microsoft? If not, be prepared for an even louder rant from Symantec. Adobe should also watch out. For me, I doubt I will touch this Vista thingie anytime soon. Windows 2K and Xandros are still doing OK for me.

  • CNN !=CNET (Score:5, Informative)

    by SNR monkey (1021747) on Thursday November 09 2006, @08:47AM (#16783931)
    Amazingly, the summary has an error, the link is to a CNET article, not a CNN article. It doesn't make much sense for CNN to be covering the RTM of an operating system.

  • where is... (Score:5, Funny)

    by cucucu (953756) on Thursday November 09 2006, @08:51AM (#16783965)
    the torrent of the .iso image?

  • WTF?? (Score:5, Funny)

    by $RANDOMLUSER (804576) on Thursday November 09 2006, @08:55AM (#16784035)
    How did the guy who tags all the other articles "itsatrap" miss this one?
  • "For me, I doubt I will touch this Vista thingie anytime soon."

    I suspect a lot of people fall into this category. However, as soon as it launches, anyone buying a new PC is going to get it rammed down their throats whether they want it or not. If you turn off most/all of the eye candy, it's much like XP, but it comes with all that mess turned on by default.

    Cheers,
  • Does anyone else find it funny that after all the delays to Vista, the RTM was delayed by like 2 weeks? I mean, they "launch" to major businesses at month's end, I'm glad they're getting the code out a bit before the launch.

  • Overheard (Score:5, Funny)

    by rootnl (644552) on Thursday November 09 2006, @09:00AM (#16784107)
    It compiles! Ship it!!

  • Leaked in 3 2 1..

    As far as I'm told, this is the same release as RC2, which has already been leaked.. :)

  • Last version of Windows (Score:5, Interesting)

    by CrazyTalk (662055) on Thursday November 09 2006, @09:01AM (#16784119)
    With each release Windows becomes more bloated and bug ridden, and it takes more time for a release. For the avearage consumer, computer OS's have reached maturity - there is really very little motivation for the average user to upgrade from XP to Vista (unlike going from DOS to Windows 3.1, or Windows 3.1 to Win 95 etc. which were huge changes). How much longer can this continue? Is anyone else convinced that this will be the last version of Windows as we know it?
  • Its not just a "guy" who tags these things as traps... its a highly trained team of crack evaluation-monkeys, and they don't act until they've all had a chance to read the article and discuss amongst themselves (an ugly process involving the much poo-flinging and the occasional sex act) whether or not it is, indeed, a trap.

  • Tagspam (Score:2, Informative)

    by Fyz (581804)
    Someone is either seriously paranoid or is abusing his right to tag the summaries.

    What's the point with those tags anyway? Are they mini-posts or what? They certainly can't be used for searching...
  • I never had any motivation to upgrade to XP until I discovered that hardware I had bought (with Win2K drivers) didn't actually work in Win2K. So I upgraded, and it worked.

    Of course, it being a USB digital TV dongle (for DVB free transmissions), I was asking for trouble.

    Vista won't run on anything I own right now, so I won't be rushing out to buy it / download it / whatever.

  • Time to milk the cash cow (Score:5, Insightful)

    by GomezAdams (679726) on Thursday November 09 2006, @09:06AM (#16784183)
    And by SP2 all the older Office apps will be crippled forcing an upgrade to the Vista Office suite. Just think of the billions of dollars taken out of the world wide economy that could have been spent on REAL business improvements.

  • Yes, but (Score:5, Funny)

    by wumpus188 (657540) on Thursday November 09 2006, @09:08AM (#16784201)
    will Linus send them a cake?
  • The real deadline was to beat Duke Nukem Forever, as they achieved that all the Vista team get huge bonuses. Now Microsoft really does have an OS fit for 2004 that needs 2007 standard hardware.

  • Anybody Else Tired of Hearing This: (Score:5, Insightful)

    by Luscious868 (679143) on Thursday November 09 2006, @09:10AM (#16784223)

    From TFA:

    Ultimately, we never could have achieved this milestone without you, the enthusiast community, who have played a key role in making this the highest-quality, most secure, most reliable and most usable version of Windows the world has ever seen.

    Really? If each new release of Windows is marketed as the highest-quality, most secure, most reliable and most usable version of Windows then why has each new release of Windows had more security patches released than the previous version?

    Just look at the amount of holes that have been plugged since XP SP2 was released. The heck with waiting for Vista SP1, I'm telling my clients to steer clear of Vista all together until Microsoft stops releasing patches to new vulnerabilities found in XP.

  • Remember kids... (Score:5, Funny)

    by Yuioup (452151) on Thursday November 09 2006, @09:13AM (#16784297)
    ... every time you install Vista a penguin loses its wings.

    Y
  • "Is anyone else convinced that this will be the last version of Windows as we know it?"

    It certainly should be but I don't know if MS has the balls that it takes to drop the entire OS and start again. What I expect will happen is that they will keep retreading this tired old crossply of an OS until it finally blows. In our company we treat Windows as a second place OS now. All workers have a copy of Windows running under VMware on their workstations but it is really relegated to running MS Office and a fe

  • The tagging (Score:5, Insightful)

    by Rik Sweeney (471717) on Thursday November 09 2006, @09:20AM (#16784397) Homepage
    Seriously, the tagging is rapidly dissolving into childish rubbish (even by Slashdot's standards). I'm fed up of seeing every story getting tagged with "itsatrap". Can it be removed or can the lameness filter be extended to the tags?
  • I'm tagging this one "manybothansdiedtobringusthisinformation" instead.

  • Interesting counter point (Score:3, Interesting)

    by UnknowingFool (672806) on Thursday November 09 2006, @09:22AM (#16784421)

    The other day, MS was trying to convince business to install both Vista and Office 2007 at the same time saying it would be easier on companies. If you read this article, MS basically provides a counter point why companies should not:

    Allchin said that, with Vista code done, businesses will "now start hard-core deployment testing" and make sure their applications work with the operating system. . . .
    "Businesses need to do their testing. They need to be very comfortable," he said.

    Given MS long history of releases and patches and patches to fix patches, only fools would not take on two simultaneous large scale MS deployments at once.

  • Amazingly, the summary has an error, the link is to a CNET article, not a CNN article. It doesn't make much sense for CNN to be covering the RTM of an operating system.

    Think again:

    http://www.cnn.com/2006/TECH/ptech/11/08/windows.v ista.ap/index.html [cnn.com]

    I also heard about it on NPR during the commute this morning.

  • I predict.... (Score:4, Insightful)

    by Trelane (16124) on Thursday November 09 2006, @09:24AM (#16784473) Journal
    Stunning profits as soon as it's pre-installed on millions of PCs worldwide.

  • Disappointed (Score:5, Funny)

    by HikingStick (878216) <<z01riemer> <at> <hotmail.com>> on Thursday November 09 2006, @09:25AM (#16784483)
    I saw the news piece in a headline on CNN.com. It read "Vista is done." I was sorely disappointed when I read that "done" meant finished rather than "done for," "kaput," or "ain't gonna happen."

    Well, it was a pleasant dream while it lasted...

  • wow! (Score:3, Interesting)

    by minus_273 (174041) <aaaaa@SPAM.yahoo . c om> on Thursday November 09 2006, @09:27AM (#16784541) Journal
    2003 is already here! This is going to rock! [youtube.com]. Funny how conan is still singing about the year 2000. Silly conan.

  • I'm waiting for the final. (Score:4, Funny)

    by Opportunist (166417) on Thursday November 09 2006, @09:33AM (#16784635)
    Or, in MS terms, "Service Pack 2".
  • I'm a power user and developer, and I can't see a compelling reason to upgrade from Win2K Pro. Any suggestions?
  • Yes and no. The concept of an "operating system" is becoming increasingly outmoded as everything moves to internet applications. Probably we'll see the internet becoming more tightly integrated -- we'll all own "hubs" that connect to the 'net and suck our computing power from somewhere else. Most things will be web-based, making our dumb terminals cheap and just about everywhere. Appliances, too, will be connected allowing complete control over our homes remotely and within the home. (Cue the "self-aware" a
  • There, fixed it.
  • Not because we need the new features or the new gadgets, but because MS will not implement (and now won't allow to implement) drivers for new hardware, and they will stop patching bugs and security holes in old software. In short: They drop support, so you have to upgrade.

    Look at NT4.0. Basically, unless you're fond of games, this is all you really needed. Unless you want to use USB sticks. Because there is no (official) USB support for NT4.

    Win2k. Even if you're into games, this is all you would ever need.
  • Filters: One Line = None

    Refresh, or if truly impatient (and on a slow connection), click one line link afterwards to expand.
  • No.

    By saying that Windows is finished, you are also, by extension, saying that computers are finished.

    And that's just not so. Hardware is still more difficult than it should be to configure, and software still crashes. I still don't have a flying car, and my games are not photorealistically rendered with real depth in the air in around me.

    Really, now. Saying that Windows is finished is like saying that the Internet is complete. That cars are done. That there is nothing left to learn about medicine. Or

  • Where's a good history (Score:3, Informative)

    by jbengt (874751) on Thursday November 09 2006, @09:41AM (#16784795)
    "CNN has a good roundup of Vista's long development history" links to CNET, and doesn't have a history of what became Vista.

  • But you're just a bunch of carrot-chompers around Bristol way...

    We take you lot seriously when you talk about tractors or next year's cabbage harvest, not operating systems. :-)

  • You joke, but you can actually download the ISO [microsoft.com] of RC1 freely from Microsoft (without having to jump through lots of hoops - assuming you have a Passport [MSN/Hotmail/X-Box Live] account already, or don't mind creating one). You need to give your details to get a licence key (which is immediately presented, and emailed to you for good measure), and you can use it on up to 10 PC's.

    You must apply for a licence before November 30th to get a serial number though! If you do purchase it you can upgrade to the ful
  • What's the point with those tags anyway? Are they mini-posts or what? They certainly can't be used for searching...

    Have a look at http://slashdot.org/tags [slashdot.org]

    Not that I agree with the idiots that are spamming the tags...

  • When Googling For More News On This.... (Score:5, Funny)

    by pandrijeczko (588093) on Thursday November 09 2006, @09:44AM (#16784863)
    ...please make sure you get your spelling correct.

    "Widows Fister" brings up completely different stuff...

  • Is anyone else convinced that this will be the last version of Windows as we know it?

    If they have any sense they will realize that the idea of completely rewriting everything from the ground up each time is just dumb. Much more sensible to do it the way Apple does - a big incremental upgrade each year.

    Of course, Microsoft's problem has been that they've had to completely rewrite because their code has been so crappy. Hopefully the vista code isn't crappy, and so in that sense you're probably right - this i
  • Being the most secure, most reliable and mose usable version of Windows is like being the fastest one legged marathon runner.

    I mean, this is said like it's some kind of achivement. Of course Vista is more secure and stable, or at least it better be! MS be damned if it isn't! That's to be expected. I do also expect a 2006 BMW to be more secure, more reliable and more comfortable than a 1986 model.

    Why should I not expect it from my OS?

    Being the most secure... Windows is to be expected from the most current ve
  • Seriously, the tagging is rapidly dissolving into childish rubbish (even by Slashdot's standards)

    Well, I, for one, welcome our trap-detecting overloards!

    I offer them these gifts: a beowulf cluster; Natalie Portman; and, of course, Hot Grits (tm).

    Oh, and remember: In Soviet Russia, Cowboy Neal options you!

    --
    under-reported news with commentary [apathy.net]
  • Yes, but it was of course inevitable. Unless you want to mod and meta-mod tags themselves, we were always going to get this rubbish. You can't stop the tags any more than you can stop spam email coming through by blocking anything that contains the word "penis" in it. They'll just change the word, change the spelling, etc. and you'll still end up with spam. Tags never were a bright idea, it's the AUTHOR or EDITOR who should be tagging stories, not the general Slashdot populous.
  • So DRM seems to work.
  • But eventually the bloat will cause MS to release a "minimalist" OS in the same way they reduced some of the bloat on Office (alledgedly) and market this new found slimline look as a feature (in the same way cars slowly grow in size and suddenly they're too big and get shrunk down again - then start to grow again). Who knows what the long term futures holds , Windows could either predominate, be overtaken by Linux or OS/X or some other OS/hardware combo which doesn't even exist yet or there could be a compl
  • Seriously, the tagging is rapidly dissolving into childish rubbish (even by Slashdot's standards)

    Well, I, for one, welcome our trap-detecting overloards!

    I offer them these gifts: a beowulf cluster; Natalie Portman; and, of course, Hot Grits (tm).

    Oh, and remember: In Soviet Russia, Cowboy Neal options you!

    --
    under-reported news with commentary [apathy.net]

  • Appropriate (Score:5, Funny)

    by bsc_zap! (995328) on Thursday November 09 2006, @09:58AM (#16785153)
    "All that compiles is not gold."

  • Re:Last version of Windows (Score:3, Insightful)

    by Tim C (15259) on Thursday November 09 2006, @10:01AM (#16785223)
    it takes more time for a release

    Really? What was the gap between Win95 and Win98? Between Win98 and Win2k? Between Win2k and XP? Let me give you a clue [microsoft.com].

    I'm not debating that Vista has taken a metric shit-load of time to drag itself to RTM (we didn't use to call Longhorn Longwait for no reason), but your assertion that each release takes longer than the last is demonstrably false.

    there is really very little motivation for the average user to upgrade from XP to Vista

    There's very little motivation (beyond not wanting to feel that their computer is old and out of date) for the average user to upgrade from any given OS to any other. Most people do not upgrade their OS, they upgrade their PC and use whatever OS comes with it. They upgrade their PC as and when they feel that their current one is too old and slow for their needs; that varies from person to person. Even some gamers are still using Win 98 (see Valve's survey [steampowered.com], scroll down to/search for "Windows Version"), and gamers are the group most likely to upgrade their OS.

    Is anyone else convinced that this will be the last version of Windows as we know it?

    I'm not convinced that it will be, but I concede that it might be. Don't expect Windows to go anywhere any time soon though, it's far too popular (as much as we might hate it) and makes MS far too much money for that to happen.

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