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Map of the Internet

Posted by Hemos on Mon Dec 11, 2006 09:12 AM
from the truly-impressive dept.
Wellington Grey writes "Author of the popular webcomic xkcd has put up a hand made map of the internet as today's comic. He also has an interesting blog entry detailing some of the work that went into it, such a pinging servers and creating a method of fractal mapping to display related regions as contiguous sections on the grid." The drawing is pretty damn impressive; somebody get on making that thing a giant wall poster so I can paper over Taco's office door.
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  • Rasterizer. (Score:4, Insightful)

    by celardore (844933) * <celardore@gmail.com> on Monday December 11 2006, @09:13AM (#17193744) Homepage
    The drawing is pretty damn impressive; somebody got on making that thing a giant wall poster so I can paper over Taco's office door.
    Have you tried something like Rasterizer? [rasterizer.de]
    • Re:Rasterizer. (Score:5, Informative)

      by Council (514577) <rmunroe.gmail@com> on Monday December 11 2006, @09:43AM (#17194048) Homepage
      To everyone who's asked for a large poster of this -- I'm going to be offering large prints of it in the xkcd store before too long, but for a handful of reasons I can't easily do it immediately (I'm in the middle of the holiday rush with shipping out t-shirts). It's cool to hear so many people are interested, though! Thank you!

      I would actually like to see someone else create a computer-generated poster with a higher level of detail (there will be algorithms for the mapping on the blag [xkcd.com] soon). I think you can do some interesting things with this fractal; it'd be neat to see all the websites you visit marked with red dots, more detailed survey info for the registry patchwork, server density/space usage (the 63-74 blocks are more densely populated than anything else), etc.
      • Although a map of the IP address space is probably more interesting and informative, something that was based on the distribution of domain names might be more appealing to a non-technical audience; perhaps something showing the relative size of various sites beneath each TLD, with some factor based on popularity and grouped by semantic distance and interlinking.

        E.g., so you'd end up with something that had big regions for the major TLDs, and then within them you'd have semantically related regions (sites that are related based on keywords or link to each other heavily). The base unit could be sites, and their size would be proportional to their number of publicly-accessible pages times a 'popularity factor.' Maybe you could extract some of the popularity information from Google (not that they'd probably like you hitting them with a lot of scripted searches).

        I think it would be neat, particularly if you ended up with something that showed such locales as the Spamblog Ghetto, Fortress Corporate America, and, of course, the Porn District.
      • Re: (Score:3, Interesting)

        obligatory reference to the CAIDA maps: http://www.caida.org/analysis/topology/as_core_net work/ [caida.org]

        I realy do like the simple structure of the xkcd map though; like the London Underground map it is a simple representation that took much work to make it so simple!

        • Re: (Score:3, Informative)

          The private, nonroutable IP ranges, according to RFC 1918 [ietf.org] are:
          10.0.0.0 to 10.255.255.255 (10/8 prefix)
          172.16.0.0 to 172.31.255.255 (172.16/12 prefix)
          192.168.0.0 to 192.168.255.255 (192.168/16 prefix)
  • xkcd (Score:5, Funny)

    by Tet (2721) <slashdot AT astradyne DOT co DOT uk> on Monday December 11 2006, @09:18AM (#17193798) Homepage Journal
    xkcd is a work of genius. See, for example, this classic [xkcd.com].
  • Clever (Score:5, Insightful)

    by inviolet (797804) <pineminder&yahoo,com> on Monday December 11 2006, @09:20AM (#17193810) Journal

    Wow, I wish I was clever enough to come up with stuff like this.

    The author gets additional Cleverness Points for thinking to post the geonetric locations of the major geek sites (slashdot, digg, boingboing, etc.) in order to encourage those sites to repost links to the author's website.

  • Real Map of Internet (Score:5, Interesting)

    by Delta-9 (19355) * <delta9 AT gmail DOT com> on Monday December 11 2006, @09:25AM (#17193856)
    Thats neat, however opte.org [opte.org] is working on realtime maps of the internet.
    • Re: (Score:3, Insightful)

      That's nice, however those opte maps don't show the same information as the xkcd map does. While a whole bunch of lines randomly spread around has a certain spartan appeal, it doesn't convey any information. I can't look at the opte maps and say, "Oh, there's so and so" or "here I am." So, I'd hardly call them maps. Maps usually have information tags describing/naming places. Maybe those LGL files contain that information? It'd be nice if they made screenshots of the output of those LGL files though.
  • by $RANDOMLUSER (804576) on Monday December 11 2006, @09:28AM (#17193880)
    But where's the "Here there be dragons" [wikipedia.org] part?
    • But where's the "Here there be dragons" part?

      In view of the way humanity's moral compass has been recalibrated since the middle ages I think the need for the creation of a "Here be porn!" annotation is more urgent.
  • What amazes me most is his ability to make you see the character's face expression although it's a faceless stick figure (eg this [xkcd.com]). That and that he seems to be an absolute geek :)
  • MIT (Score:5, Interesting)

    by minus_273 (174041) <aaaaa@SPAM.yahoo.cTEAom minus caffeine> on Monday December 11 2006, @09:28AM (#17193886) Journal
    I always laugh at how MIT half as much as all of latin america and as much as all of Africa.

    I remember being in MIT and getting a real fixed IP for every single device. We actually had a coke vending machine that was hacked and online with its own IP. Considering they has so much that they are no where near running out, I'm sure there are a ton of toasters online at MIT as well.
    • Re: (Score:2, Funny)

      by Anonymous Coward
      I always laugh at how MIT half as much as all of latin america and as much as all of Africa.

      Buh?

      We actually had a coke vending machine that was hacked and online with its own IP. Considering they has so much that they are no where near running out, I'm sure there are a ton of toasters online at MIT as well.

      Wuh?

    • Re:MIT (Score:5, Interesting)

      by Pasquina (980638) on Monday December 11 2006, @11:45AM (#17195894)
      Each dorm is assigned all of a second-level IP: 18.XXX.*.*, that's 65536 IP addresses per dorm. At about 300 students per dorm, that's more than 200 static IPs per student...just in case. My fraternity is assigned 512 IPs for 45 guys.
      If nothing else, it has skewed my opinion on how quickly we're running out of IPv4 addresses.

      I've also heard that MIT rents some of their IPs to Portugal. (This was also the subject of a supposed hack that some MIT student took out an entire country's internet service for a little while.) Does anyone know if either half of this is true?
  • by OhHellWithIt (756826) on Monday December 11 2006, @09:29AM (#17193890) Journal
    Someone obviously has too much time on his hands. And to think he could have been reading /.
  • There appear to be quite a few "wild" areas on the map. People keep complaining how IPv4 address space is running out, but there is actually grass growing in some of those areas!
  • Anyone fancy a game?
    Good news is that we could wipe out the USA quite quickly.
  • Good job, but... (Score:4, Interesting)

    by level_headed_midwest (888889) on Monday December 11 2006, @09:35AM (#17193964)
    They did a good job in labeling things like local, multicast, loopback, and VPN addresses, but they forgot to note 169 as such.
  • IPv4 space (Score:5, Insightful)

    by JohnnyBigodes (609498) <morphine@digitalmen[ ]net ['te.' in gap]> on Monday December 11 2006, @09:38AM (#17193994)
    I thought we were (supposedly) running out of IPv4 space... but the map shows quite a few unallocated blocks. What gives?
    • Re:IPv4 space (Score:5, Insightful)

      by forkazoo (138186) <wrosecransNO@SPAMgmail.com> on Monday December 11 2006, @10:11AM (#17194414) Homepage

      I thought we were (supposedly) running out of IPv4 space... but the map shows quite a few unallocated blocks. What gives?


      Look at how much spqace MIT has. Now, look at how much space the whole of Africa has. Even if we assigned every last block, we would probably never see an African university with a whole /8 to itself. Think about how many people are in India and China, and compare the asian assignment vs. the US assignment. It will be impossible to ever make IPv4 fair. IPv6 allows us to just bypass the whole issue and let everybody have as much address space as they could possibly use.
        • Re:IPv4 space (Score:4, Informative)

          by forkazoo (138186) <wrosecransNO@SPAMgmail.com> on Monday December 11 2006, @04:30PM (#17200046) Homepage
          This sounds suspiciously like "640K ought to be enough for anybody."


          Have you looked at how many IP's you get in IPv6? Seriously, I once saw the number and it took me several minutes of googling to figure out how to say the number outloud because I had never encountered a number that large. Given that IP will only be useful for a single planet network, we should be good for a very long time.

          Quickly googling, I saw these explanations of how many addresses we get with IPv6:

          (667 sextillion) addresses per square meter

          3.4 times 10**38 addresses, or 5 times 10**28 (50 octillion) for each of the roughly 6.5 billion people alive today

          I'm perfectly comfortable being quoted saying that 50 octillion addresses ought to be enough for anybody. (Considering the whole of the current IPv4 Internet is only 4 billion some odd addresses...)
    • Re: (Score:3, Interesting)

      Actually, wikipedia has a very good summary of when IPv4 address space exhaustion [wikipedia.org] will likely happen. In particular, while the IPv4 allocation graphs [potaroo.net] made by Geoff Huston aren't as pretty, they are likely far more accurate than xkcd's. The only problem with Geoff's predictions is the exhaution date keeps getting moved forward so his dates are probably best-case predictions.

      Basically, yes, the IPv4 space is running out. It is still 3-5 years out for IANA exhaustion and further for the RIRs and ISPs, but

  • Dragons? (Score:3, Insightful)

    by Marbleless (640965) on Monday December 11 2006, @09:40AM (#17194020)
    How boring our world has become.

    Old maps used to claim "Here be dragons", but today it is "Unallocated blocks".

    Where has the mystery gone? ;)

  • So why (Score:4, Funny)

    by dattaway (3088) on Monday December 11 2006, @09:44AM (#17194070) Homepage
    does a company like Halliburton get a whole square? Are they planning to invade others?
  • DEC?? I think not (Score:3, Informative)

    by Necron69 (35644) <jscott@farrow.gmail@com> on Monday December 11 2006, @10:05AM (#17194346)
    I have news for this guy. DEC (net 15) hasn't existed in nearly a decade, and HP and Compaq merged like four years ago. So Nets 15 & 16 should be labeled "HP".

    All your IP space belong to us!!! Bwahahahaaaaaa!!!

    - Necron69
  • by Rocketship Underpant (804162) on Monday December 11 2006, @10:06AM (#17194356)
    Isn't it kind of sad that the entire continent of Africa gets the same number of IP addresses that Prudential, an insurance company gets?

    • Re: (Score:3, Interesting)

      Latecomers to the internet, like Harvard and Africa, have their networks structured such that they don't need huge numbers of IP addresses. When MIT originally set up their network, their routing was done by IP address block, so the routers could all decide where to send packets based on a single octet. So, if you have one computer in a location without any other computers, it gets 65536 addresses. Furthermore, the original routing between sites was simplified greatly by having the first octet dictate which
  • IPv6 is there too... (Score:5, Informative)

    by scsirob (246572) on Monday December 11 2006, @10:08AM (#17194372)
    Just float your mouse over the picture and he will tell you what the IPv6 version looks like.

    Even more clever, and sooooo right ;-)
  • Tubes? (Score:3, Funny)

    by j00r0m4nc3r (959816) on Monday December 11 2006, @10:16AM (#17194472)
    I don't see any of the tubes