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CodeWeavers Releases CrossOver 6 for Mac and Linux
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jeremy_white writes "I'm happy to announce that we've shipped version 6.0 of CrossOver, for both the Mac and Linux. We have a full
changelog available; highlights are are Outlook 2003 and support for games, notably World of Warcraft and Steam based games. I can attest that World of Warcrac...er craft is the most well tested application we have ever supported. It's exciting to watch the Wine project progress — it's a great and growing community of developers (which is a good thing, as we're now all too busy grinding Honor in Alterac Valley to keep up our pace of contributions :-/)."
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Jeremy White writes, "I am happy to announce that we have put up a new version of our public beta of CrossOver Mac as well as an equivalent public beta of CrossOver Linux. For Mac users, this release includes fixes to Internet Explorer, fixes for many cases where programs would crash when run (e.g. Microsoft Office 2000 and similar older applications), fixes for Outlook 2003, and a range of other improvements. For Linux users, the big highlights are support for World of Warcraft and many Steam based games (including Half Life 2 and Counterstrike), as well as support for Outlook 2003. Version 6 also represents a major improvement in the core of Wine since version 5 of CrossOver, so you may be pleasantly surprised as you try running unsupported applications."
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well (Score:5, Funny)
It is, and it's certainly a lot more useful than that other whine project. [petitiononline.com]
And *STILL* no QuickBooks Support (Score:2, Informative)
Re:And *STILL* no QuickBooks Support (Score:5, Informative)
I'd say more accountants work with Peoplesoft, SAP, Great Plains, AccPac than QuickBooks. The world is ripe with accounting software out there, and Quickbooks isn't the only thing, not even close.
Many accountants yes. most? Now you're just talking out your arse.
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Re:And *STILL* no QuickBooks Support (Score:5, Interesting)
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Microsoft just tells you that software that works with windows will, well, work with windows. No shit. But if you make a claim that quickbooks will work with wine, that arguably makes you responsible if it doesn't.
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Linux? (Score:2)
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They probably have more clamor for the games. The fact is that most accountant types probably don't care enough about switching to a Mac that they ask for this. They are either stuck on the PC and happy there, or stated on a Mac and use something else.
You could use Parallels (especially with the new Coherence thing), although I realize that's quite a bit more expensive.
PS: Tried any of the free Parallels replacements like QEMU or the Cocoa QEMU port?
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PS: Tried any of the free Parallels replacements like QEMU or the Cocoa QEMU port?
Well, it's hardly a Parallels "replacement". It's still considered alpha-quality software, for one thing.
QEMU by default is a virtual machine emulator. They do have what they call the "QEMU Accelerator", which is available for Linux on x86 and x86_64, which provides proper virtualisation, more akin to what VMWare and Parallels are doing. That is to say, it runs most code on the host processor directly, without emulation, which as you know, slows things down a lot.
I've been watching the "Q Project" [kju-app.org], which I
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(Intuit's support department blows, by the way. I'm not endorsing it. I have gone through hell every time I have had to ca
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Don't bitch unless you've tried (Score:5, Informative)
Several version of QuickBooks are listed as 'bronze' [codeweavers.com], meaning they will at least install and run. If you look under 'known issues,' do you know what you see? Nothing.
If you want to run QuickBooks under Crossover, try it. If it has a problem, then tell them about it.
Somehow I suspect you're just trolling. If you knew anything about Codeweavers, or had even tried the software, you should know that they determine which applications to support based on customer demand. Granted, some apps are probably too difficult to be worth the effort, which would be a judgment call, but by and large their 'direction' comes from the bottom up rather than dictated by a pointy-hair type.
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I'm not trolling -- I actually paid the $39 a couple of years back when it looked like they were making progress. QB runs, but not well -- lots of little graphic glitches and refresh issues that make me nervous when I'm entering financial data...
So, I have tried. Can I bitch now?
The problem... (Score:3, Insightful)
If no one runs it, how can anyone know that it doesn't run?
But if you did run it and experienced these issues, why are there no known issues? Is it possible that maybe you didn't report the issues, and are complainin
Re:And *STILL* no QuickBooks Support (Score:5, Informative)
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Isn't it worth the few hundred bucks for a low end Windows box plus a second internal HD for backup to be sure your data is safe?
I like my Mac as much as the next guy but sometimes you just got to go with the most straight forward lower risk solution.
Pssst - VMWare + Quickbooks is better (Score:3, Insightful)
But now I run QB under a VMWare virtual machine which I specifically c
Great Just what we need (Score:5, Funny)
Heh (Score:2)
Mixed impressions (Score:5, Informative)
Cedega Mashing (Score:5, Interesting)
Re:Cedega Mashing (Score:5, Interesting)
Last I checked (a while back), WineX was open source. You could install it from CVS, and for a short time, you could install in Gentoo using Portage.
However, Crossover Office is closed source. It has contributed to the wine project, but it's certainly not covered by the GPL, and the codebase diverged at the point when wine went to the GPL.
I don't see why there would be anger. They are just two business competing with each other. They both got their start the same way.
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Crossover Office does have provide the code used in their version of Wine: have a l
You are wrong (Score:5, Informative)
Wine is not GPL, it is LGPL, a much more liberal license than the GPL. It allows non-free derived products, as long as the Wine part of the derived product is still LGPL, and replaceable by the user. You can download the source of Wine part of CrossOver (it is no longer called CrossOver Office) by clicking on the Source tab at their home page. You can also get the source code for several other none-Wine components of CrossOver there.
The two businesses did not get their start the same way, CodeWeavers never made proprietary improvements to Wine. TransGaming did, which is why Wine changed license. CodeWeavers and other contributers were tired of the uneven competition between contributers and leeches that the old BSDL license encoruage. The true genius of the copyleft licenses is not high ideals of the FSF they were created to promote, but that they create a level playground for competing companies to cooperate in. "You can get my contributions, only if I can get yours".
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Last I checked (a while back), WineX was open source. You could install it from CVS, and for a short time, you could install in Gentoo using Portage. However, Crossover Office is closed source. It has contributed to the wine project, but it's certainly not covered by the GPL, and the codebase diverged at the point when wine went to the GPL.
This is incorrect. The facts are:
WineX is open source, licensed under a BSD-style license. Cedega is a closed source application based on WineX. There are WineX additions and enhancements in Cedega for which no source is released, such as parts of Transgaming's DirectX support.
Wine is open source, licensed under the LGPL. Crossover Office is a closed source application based on Wine. Because the LGPL requires it, Crossover Office provides full source to the version of Wine used, including all add
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Well, perhaps it does work on some systems, but it sure didn't work on mine, and they gave me less than no help. This is the more annoying as they had it working a year or two ago, and then dropped it.
CrossOver doesn't advertise running as many of the programs that I'm interested in (not many, mainly games or VERY old), but they don't appear to lie about what they do run.
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IE? (Score:2, Funny)
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1). There is a native Firefox port for GNU/Linux.
2). The IE7 installer validates your Windows install/license before it will install. Good luck installing it!
IE7 on linux (Score:2)
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I think the ability to run plugins under crossover (while using a native browser) has existed since version four of crossover.
Can Linux do everything Windows can? (Score:2)
In other words, are the some things that the WIN32 API needs that Linux can not supply.
Like some of DirectX perhaps?
Just wondering.
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1. There might be performance hits because of design differences between the OSes. The simplest example is a performance problem with Cygwin (a Unix compatibility layer for Windows): forking processes on Unix is a fairly lightweight task these days, light enough that it's used to create multithreaded applications. On WinNT there is no fork() and creating processes is very expensive; there's kernel support for multithreaded applications but the
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Oh great. (Score:4, Funny)
Oh wait. They're already there.
I see that it has been tested with AMD-64 systems (Score:4, Interesting)
I have used CrossOver Linux in the past to run Office 97 and Adobe Photoshop 7 under an earlier version of Red Hat Linux. I later used it to run Office 2000 under Linux instead. It worked pretty well and I was happy with their product. I haven't yet tried using it under the 64-bit version Ubuntu 6.10 Linux on my AMD-64 computer. I see that the Codeweavers web page says that it does work with 6.06/6.10 and that they test under both 32 bit and 64 bit systems, so I plan to give it a try. The idea of possibly running a Windows only Plugin for Firefox is also kind of intriguing.
come on quicken! (Score:3, Interesting)
iTunes support (Score:3, Informative)
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"What sort of works:
iTunes 4 will install and run, but you are prohibited by Apple from using it with the iTunes store, which severely constrains its usefulness. We hope to support a newer version of iTunes in a future release of CrossOver."
Tried it on Mac (Score:2)
I wonder, though, if there's some leftover crust from trying DarWine that's interfering with Crossover Office.
I think
Codeweavers will not survive (Score:3, Funny)
Codeweavers will not survive unless they start supporting windows.