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Hear No Evil, See No Evil — E-mail Kills the Phone

Posted by ScuttleMonkey on Mon Aug 20, 2007 09:15 PM
from the what-no-shouting-over-cube-walls dept.
coondoggie writes to tell us that in a recent study e-mail has overtaken telephony as the most common workplace communication tool. "Research reveals that 100% of the end-users surveyed use e-mail, followed by fixed-line telephones (80%), mobile telephones (76%) and instant messaging (66%). The study points out the three most ubiquitous technologies increase productivity the most. Over 70% of the end-users surveyed say e-mail impacts positively on their productivity, followed by conventional fixed-line telephony (53%) and mobile telephony (52%). From a productivity point-of-view, the research shows that instant messaging, blogs and softphones are considered most disruptive, and could negatively impact productivity if not managed properly."
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  • by Animats (122034) on Monday August 20 2007, @09:18PM (#20299773) Homepage

    Research reveals that 100% of the end-users surveyed use e-mail

    Let me guess. They did the survey via e-mail.

    • by garcia (6573) on Monday August 20 2007, @09:23PM (#20299815) Homepage
      Let me guess. They did the survey via e-mail.

      We'll they're better off doing it that way then by phone. It's not like I answer my phone for any number I don't recognize.

      For just about anything I prefer chatting, e-mail, or any other electronic method as my time isn't 100% devoted to a single person. I can do 100 other things while responding to electronic messages. With a phone call my attention is solely with one person and that's just not a good way to operate for MOST functions of my day.
      • by gmack (197796) <gmack.innerfire@net> on Monday August 20 2007, @10:01PM (#20300115) Homepage Journal
        I hate phones for the same reason I hate instant messengers. I don't like things that demand my instant attention and interrupt what I'm doing.

        If I'm working on something I can check emails when it won't affect my ability to get work done. If I'm constantly answering the phone I never get anything done.
          • A few months ago my company came through the office and tore out everyone's regular phones and replaced them with super-duper Cisco VOIP sets.

            The things are crap (you have to sign into them every morning ... as if I don't have enough passwords to remember already, now I need to sign in to my freaking phone?) but they do have one upshot. If I just don't sign into the thing, nobody can call me -- the calls just roll right over into voice mail. And since my voicemails get emailed to me as attachments (where I can conveniently play them at faster-than-normal speed), I can basically ignore the phone handset and do everything through my PC.

            By my unofficial count, I'd say something like 30-50 percent of the office is doing the same thing, either intentionally or just because they can't remember to sign into the phones in the morning. I think it's actually boosted productivity -- nobody uses the phones to call around the office anymore, unless they've already sent an email or an IM to see if the person is available on the other end.

            Maybe they're not so bad after all...
      • "my time isn't 100% devoted to a single person."

        Glad I don't work with you. Well, I don't know where you work, but I don't work with a bunch of people who waste my time. A few clients do this, yes, but hey, they're paying us a bunch of money.

        People have learned not to call me unless it's important.
        • Re: (Score:2, Insightful)

          Hopefully you're not opening a lot of emails from addresses you don't recognize, either.

          Unfortunately it's the nature of my job.
    • I think if you add the landline and mobile percentages togther, you have 100% "Telephone" usage -- It's like asking if you get your e-mail "wirelessly" or "wired"...
    • We are apparently supposed to conclude that 20% of the people in business do not have telephone service?

      I am guessing telephone service in business is 100% as well. Now, we could make a similarly arbitrary distinction between email gotten via pop3 through a desktop client and IMAP email gotten through a desktop client and pop3 through a web client adn IMAP through a web client and I bet all four of those would fall below land lines in adoption.

  • by Smidge204 (605297) on Monday August 20 2007, @09:23PM (#20299811)
    I discussed this point with my boss once. I argued for e-mail:

    There may be a record (via phone company) of when a call took place, what number was dialed, and how long it took...

    ...but with an e-mail, all parties involved have a record of when it was sent, who received it, and what was said.

    That last part is hard to do with a phone conversation, legally anyway.
    =Smidge=
    • ...but with an e-mail, all parties involved have a record of when it was sent, who received it, and what was said.


      which is why my manager at my last job would always call me, or stop by my cube or grab me as I walked by in the hall instead of email whenever she wanted to ensure that whatever idiotic thing she wanted done (the joys of being a network security guy) could not be traced back to her. But, I'd send her a note about it each time anyway. I like having my get out of jail free card. "just to verify, you wanted me to do $foo, and understand the implications, right?"
      • by khasim (1285) <brandioch.conner@gmail.com> on Monday August 20 2007, @09:43PM (#20299963)
        I lost points on my last review because of my "over reliance" on email. And I'll probably lose points on the next one.

        Don't forget that in a lot of email systems I can tell when you've opened my email and whether you deleted it or not.

        Email is its own paper trail AND with magical CYA powers. And that really annoys a certain type of personality.
        • If you work for a publicly traded company or a business that's healthcare related then it is REQUIRED by law that there be a paper trail. There must be documentation of any and all system changes along with authorization from designated personnel. Next time your boss bitches about the paper trail just blame it on SOX/HIPPA and the auditors.
          • "If you work for a publicly traded company or a business that's healthcare related then it is REQUIRED by law that there be a paper trail. There must be documentation of any and all system changes along with authorization from designated personnel. Next time your boss bitches about the paper trail just blame it on SOX/HIPPA and the auditors."
            There is the law, and then there is corporate practice. Tell my boss about SOX and he is likely to have you fired before he starts documenting some of what they do.
            • Wow, I would be dropping an anonymous tip about my boss's behavior to HR and internal audit if I ever got it trouble for doing my job correctly.
              • Re: (Score:3, Insightful)

                Perhaps once i quit the firm. Anonymous is not really anonymous, as the circle of people who understand processes is quite small. It would be obvious I ratted him out if I did.
        • Re: (Score:3, Interesting)

          Why do you put up with it? Not a company wide problem, deeply embedded in the culture, just one or 2 managers? But if that's all it is, why not complain about those managers? If it is the whole company, why stay? Is it that finding another job is hard, and a pain, what with maybe having to move? Job market is bad, despite what everyone is saying? Or, don't want the troubles that come with being a whistleblower? Or you aren't putting up with it, but you're not quite ready to move yet?

          One thing I rea

    • by skoaldipper (752281) <skoalstr8@@@gmail...com> on Monday August 20 2007, @09:35PM (#20299905)
      Email for instruction. Telephone for clarification. Remote VNC when the other two fail.
      • Why is this modded funny instead of informative?

        even tho' it may seem funny, it is the reality in a lot of places.

        Wish I had mod points.
    • Unless both parties are signing their messages, either side can edit them to their hearts content, and there's no way to prove who (if either) is being honest. Even if they are signing them, they can simply ignore your message and claim it was never sent.
      • Re: (Score:3, Informative)

        In most cases email is difficult to bury. Aside from mandatory logging which any large company has to have, there are always backups. Besides, if there are multiple recipients of the email then it's very hard to convince the court that all of those unrelated and disinterested parties conspired to fake an email complete with reasonable headers etc. And if you keep mail logs then these headers can be checked against the log, and if there was a message sent then it's practically proven - unless it's a crimina
  • by Anonymous Coward
    That it really didn't kill the phone. And the overlap between landline and mobile phone usage probably makes that 100% as well. And hundreds of millions of people get their email through a phone line using dial-up or DSL.
    • What is this landline phone you speak of?

      I refused to use chat for years, but for interoffice communications, its quicker than email, and better than shouting "hey, what's that url again?"

  • I'm not shocked... (Score:5, Interesting)

    by zakezuke (229119) on Monday August 20 2007, @09:25PM (#20299829)
    Let's say I wanted to ask someone a question, a simple question with no real need for an immediate reply. I send an e-mail. If I were to use regular phone, I have to deal with polite conversation which I may or may not have time for. Not that I don't mind idle conversation, it's just something I don't always want to deal with.

    Let's say someone was visiting me and there a traffic advisory, or something else they would need to index later. I would phone first, then text an instruction block to the phone. Same when grocery of component shopping.

    And messaging when someone is not around, e-mail is so much better than voice. Mobile phones are not always reliable to relay all the important words, and some people on land lines use really crappy answering machines, but an e-mail will always get the message out.

    E-mail is more important than phone these days. That's rather a fact of life. Welcome to the 21st century, where no one has to talk to anyone.
    • by Firethorn (177587) on Monday August 20 2007, @09:46PM (#20299995) Homepage Journal
      Let's say I wanted to ask someone a question, a simple question with no real need for an immediate reply. I send an e-mail. If I were to use regular phone, I have to deal with polite conversation which I may or may not have time for. Not that I don't mind idle conversation, it's just something I don't always want to deal with.

      I love email for this very reason. Somebody asks me a question over the phone, if I don't have an immediate answer ready I have to get their contact information. That can be a pain in the butt, especially if we have a bad phone connection(It happens).

      With email, if I have the info I dump it into the email and send it off to them. I even tend to keep a 'faq' listing for that very purpose(no, I don't make it public, because I'm supposed to be providing the 'personal touch', and customize the answers a bit for the customer's exact situation). If I need to collect it, no big deal, I have their contact information right there. It's in my queue, so to speak.

      Unfortunately, most of my answers require research at this point because I just shifted positions and am still learning my new job.
  • obvious (Score:4, Insightful)

    by User 956 (568564) on Monday August 20 2007, @09:27PM (#20299841) Homepage
    From a productivity point-of-view, the research shows that instant messaging, blogs and softphones are considered most disruptive

    Probably because those three things are more typically used for personal reasons, not business reasons. It's not so much a problem with the tools, but the use. If they became more widely integrated into the workplace, they wouldn't be considered "disruptive".

    At any rate, if you have employees that are good at managing their own workflow, you don't have to worry about clamping down on "disruptive" technology.
    • I disagree; I think it's inherent to the technology. How could real-time communications such as phones and IM *not* be more disruptive than email? The other person is sitting and waiting for you to respond, and you know it. Of course that's disruptive.
  • Reasons? (Score:5, Insightful)

    by Enderandrew (866215) <enderandrew@gm a i l . com> on Monday August 20 2007, @09:28PM (#20299845) Homepage Journal
    People hate voice mail.
    It is easier to plan, revise and think-out email.
    People are nervous about speaking.
    E-mail leaves the ever-important trail to use against people later.
    You're already using the computer, so it seems like an extra effort at times to switch tasks to the phone.

    And this is the biggest supposition on my part, but it seems that people "look forward" to getting email, where as they feel annoyed anytime the phone rings.
    • Also, unlike a phone call/message, email can contain pictures, drawings, etc.
      Yes, I realize that that you can fax images but, having worked for a building supply company, an electronic image that doesn't get lost, crumpled or have coffee spilled on it is often much more convenient, especially since all of our ordering and pricing was done on computers.
      • Good addition. I should have thought of that.
      • The most horrible thing about voicemail is sequential access. People leave a big long-winded voicemail and then finally mumble their phone number at the end. Then you have to listen to the whole thing once or twice more, it's a time-waster.

        Also, transcription (of anything, from phone numbers to prescriptions) is error-prone. With email I always copy and paste rather than transcribe, but voicemail obviously precludes that.

    • Re:Reasons? (Score:4, Interesting)

      by teh moges (875080) on Monday August 20 2007, @10:42PM (#20300403) Homepage
      What you said is true, but unfortionate in that it doesn't force people to learn how to speak to one another.
      You can't (at least, not right now that I know of) interview for a job by email.
      I always hate just emailing important things to other people. You can leave an email sit there, but you have to answer a phone call, or at least acknowledge that you know of the issue. An email can simply be discarded as "Oh, I haven't read that one yet". I prefer to phone to talk, and any important details get emailed. Any non-important issues are emailed, with a follow up call when they (invariably) haven't got back to me within a week.

      Maybe it is just where I work, but I can't rely on other people to read emails, despite it being corporate policy.
      • Closed email systems allow for read receipts, and I never understood why a standard for read receipts never caught on.

        I've worked for three major corporations, and all of them have been big on read receipts to track email, where as people can say, "oh, I didn't check my voice mail yet" just as easily as they can say they haven't read their email yet. However with a read receipt, you can verify if that is true.


    • [VOICEMAIL]
      "Um. Hi. Yeah. How are you? I just wanted to call to touch base and see how you were doing. Give me a call when you get a chance. Talk to you soon. Buy."

      [Me]
      ZZZZZZzzzzzzzzz

      [EMAIL]
      Hey, whats up?

      Email wins.
    • [Slashdot] Reply to Reasons? by jadin

      Here.. I'll help you with your next fix.
  • My opinion (Score:5, Insightful)

    by TheRealMindChild (743925) on Monday August 20 2007, @09:38PM (#20299927) Homepage Journal
    I gotta throw out my opinion here, with a bit of perspective from my last employer. Not everyone I worked with was nice. But the mantra was throughout the company, if you can't get them on the phone, hunt them down in person. So when someone got a bug up his ass about some issue, they would call my phone... over and over. You couldn't send them to voicemail... they would know right away you were there... so you had to wait out the three or four consecutive phone calls in hopes that they will just give up. But they rarely did. They would storm into my office ranting and raving about XYZ and they need ABC and whatever else they could complain about to keep me from my work. I honestly fought for an hour with a coworker (salesguy) that FOR THE HUNDREDTH TIME STILL COULDN'T INSERT A PICTURE, FROM FILE, INTO A POWERPOINT PRESENTATION! And somehow this was my fault, because I was the computer guy. But I digress... anyway, even on the phone, they all went a mile a minute, giving me no time to think, no time to compose, nothing I could do where I could come out on top of that situation.

    For this sake I preferred email corrispondance. I could think, sometimes over hours, what I needed to say, and constuctively lay it out how the situation needed.

    But the old folks out there... the ones who insist I wear a tie, shine my shoes, shave my face TO SIT BEHIND A DESK, actually told me I was no longer allowed to respond to any issues of ANY kind via email. It had to be by phone.

    Seriously, welcome to the 21st century. It is the future. A better mousetrap has been made. Quit making me catch mice with a broomstick and a bucket.
    • A better mousetrap has been made. Quit making me catch mice with a broomstick and a bucket.

      You had a broomstick?! I had to entice the mice into the bucket using a ball of earwax as bait! And after I caught them, I had to call the boss on our interphone system, making sure the string was pulled tight enough for him to hear me.

  • Ugh, email (Score:3, Insightful)

    by Anonymous Coward on Monday August 20 2007, @09:44PM (#20299973)
    Now don't get me wrong, email has its uses. However, I would MUCH rather use a phone for most day-to-day business activities. Here's why:

    - You're a lot more likely to get an answer in a timely manner if you call the person first, and THEN email them if they're not there, than if you just email and wait for a reply. I don't keep outlook open all the time because I find it a nuisance and it crashes all a time; phones don't crash usually.
    - It takes longer to write (and to read) an email than to make a phone call.
    - You don't get to show off your communication skills (such as bargaining) as much through email as you do on the phone.

    Of course, over both of these, I prefer to walk down the hall to the person's cube and talk to them in person, but that seems outdated these days.
  • Honestly-- I prefer being contacted at work via Instant message. We have an in house Jabber sever set up. Very convienent. It amazes me how many businesses have no problem using AIM or MSN Messenger to communicate at work when it is fairly straightforward to setup a jabber server.
  • Duh... (Score:5, Insightful)

    by FlyByPC (841016) on Monday August 20 2007, @10:05PM (#20300147) Homepage
    Email is asynchronous. Also, for (legitimate) emails, it's a lot more time-consuming for the sender to type it (~40wpm?) than for the recipient to read it (~a few hundred wpm). It doesn't take as much time -- and can be saved for handy reference, too.

    I for one welcome our new SMTP overlords.
  • by jfruhlinger (470035) on Monday August 20 2007, @10:10PM (#20300177) Homepage
    And by "kill" we mean "is used 25 percent more often than", according to one survey. But we might as well have a funeral now, right?
    • Yep, amazing. They lifted the already stupid title of TFA and managed to make it even more stupid by replacing the only accurate word ("overtakes") with "kills"... sigh.
  • I think the culprit may be that they divided fixed-line telephones and mobile telephones into two separate categories for the survey, but kept e-mail as a single category.

    If they had made a survey where the phones were kept as a single category but e-mail was divided into two categories (say a company sponsored server vs. a third party e-mail service like Yahoo) the results would probably have been reversed.
  • Seems obvious that new tech will replace old tech. That said I still find that picking up the phone gets more done then an email. For the simple reason that people have to respond right away. It's simply harder (but not impossible) to stonewall.
  • Research reveals that 100% of the end-users surveyed use e-mail
    Research? Is that some blogging site I've never heard of?
  • by bmajik (96670) <matt@mattevans.org> on Monday August 20 2007, @10:25PM (#20300287) Homepage Journal
    Email and IM are the tools of choice at work. The crappy voip phones in our office use meridian mail, which I can only surmise was designed as an enormous practical joke on how to make someone quit their job merely over the tools instead of anything strictly job related... and which was accidentally shipped.

    Our phones have this big red light on them when you have a voice mail waiting. Since somebody setup Meridian to ask you for a new voice mail password (one you've not used recently) every... what is it, 6 minutes?.. and since someone leaves me a voice mail once every 6 months.. invariably that light would come on and i'd have no way of getting it to shut off. Well, eventually I just unplugged my phone for a while and luckliy, when I moved desks and plugged it in, the light was gone. Now when people call me and try to leave voice mail, they get this horrible message saying this user hasn't setup their voice mail. Say it along with me in your best mortal combat announcer voice: "Flawless Victory!"

    In any case, my phone is effectively a 1 way device. I use it to make non-work-related calls, or to dial into conference calls that aren't using pc/ip based audio streaming.

    I'd like to dump the phone altogether and use a soft phone that integrates with an IM client. If I'm sitting at my laptop, we can communicate, and chances are, you'll try IM first.
    • Ugh. Meridian. I still haven't set up my voice mail after 9 months at my work. Everyone who calls just gets "This user is not subscribed to this service" (subscribed? wtf?). Funnily enough, I think my predecessor using the same phone on the same PC and same port did have voicemail, it just mysteriously died.
  • by walterbyrd (182728) on Monday August 20 2007, @11:05PM (#20300581)
    Wasn't there an article on /. a few weeks back that claimed that email was dead? So now email is alive and is killing the phone?
  • it says 100% email, 80% fixed-line phone, 76% cell phone. That adds up to 156% phone, or probably at least 100% or so. and as for the advantages of email vs phone, both have their grace. email is easier to manage and save. but if you're going to have a conversation involving give and take, face to face is better than phone, which is better than email.