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FCC Requires Backup Power For 210K Cell Towers
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on Mon Dec 10, 2007 10:37 PM
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1sockchuck alerts us to an article in Data Center Knowledge that explores ramifications from the FCC's decision a couple of months back to require backup power for cell sites and other parts of the telecom infrastructure. The new rule was prompted by wireless outages during Hurricane Katrina. There are more than 210,000 cell towers in the US, as well as 20,000 telecom central offices that will also need generators or batteries. Municipalities are bracing for disputes as carriers try to add generators or batteries to cell sites on rooftops or water towers. The rules will further boost demand in the market for generators, where there are already lengthy delivery backlogs for some models.
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You mean they didn't before? (Score:5, Insightful)
Yikes!
That's alright, I know a guy (Score:5, Funny)
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Re:You mean they didn't before? (Score:5, Insightful)
At the same time, when cellphones are usable, they can be very helpful. If many of the cell towers didn't fail during Katrina, it would have been much easier to help many of the victims and coordinate the rescue in a more efficient manner.
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Here in Jamaica one celphone company spnt a year advertising it's performance during huricane Ivan. What's worse is that the other major competitor had everything. Batterys, Generators etc... The mistake thy made was in the size fuel tanks at each site. They figured a couple days suply would be enogh.
With the number of Cellsites they have , this ment a small army roaming the country with botles of gasoline to keap the network at least partialy running.
And here are you y
Re:You mean they didn't before? (Score:5, Interesting)
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IANAS (scientist), but i believe it is microbial growth in the fuel that ruins it.
In Argentina ... (Score:2)
Needing a law to require something so obvious as a backup power source is sad, but true
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I don't know if they have backup power though... I've never noticed either my mobile or the land line phone to be down during a power cut, but then there aren't many.
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At last (Score:5, Funny)
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Re:At last (Score:5, Funny)
Usually they just say ok and hang up, without even noticing...
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Re:At last (Score:5, Insightful)
This used to happen all the time at my mums place. The outage would affect her and the weekend house across the road (who would most likely be away). The neighbor up the hill would be a good indicator to it being a possum induced fuse failure or something more widespread.
Ditto for a failure in your fusebox. If everyone else has power and you don't, there isn't much use calling the power company... I know most people reading this would have a tripped breaker fixed in a few seconds, but maybe your grandmother wouldn't know how to, and in fact she might still have fuse wire instead of a resettable breaker.
Even for the mail server case, a user in a remote branch who hasn't received any email all morning would probably ask if the server was down before bothering you with their specific issue. Of course a good helpdesk would put up a recorded message in that case eg 'We are currently experiencing problems with our email server, we expect the problem to be fixed in xxx minutes'.
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Still have a problem (Score:3, Insightful)
24 hours is not enough (Score:4, Informative)
24 hours is sufficent to cover for brief, minor outages. It is not enough to cover for anything close to a natural disaster where many sites lose power and there are not enough resources to fix them all in 24 hours.
Here in New Zealand, all our telecom has 24 hour battery backup but it is sized "just right". Last year we lost power for approx 40 hours due to a severe snow storm. The phones lasted for appeox 25 hours.
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Re:Still have a problem (Score:4, Informative)
Not so. That all depends on where the damage is. If it's at, or fairly near the tower, quite possibly. If the power's out because a power line was dropped by the temblor, there's a good chance that the cell tower and any generator are just fine. I remember after the Northridge Quake there were major power outages, but the equipment worked just fine as soon as the power was back. As far as floods go, there's no reason not to install them in waterproof rooms to make sure they're OK even if that room's under water.
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New Orleans should be used as a land fill, till it is sufficiently raised to be viable again.
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Consider... Backup power good for just 72 hours, (batteries, etc) and connections by directional microwave. (common) Most disasters are short-lived events. It only takes one cell tower to provi
Re:Still have a problem (Score:5, Funny)
You must be new here.
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Solar (Score:5, Interesting)
Even if it's not perfectly reliable, such a tower could be connected to the grid, and in the event of emergency, it'll be at the very least, intermittent,which is enough for some traffic to flow out for a very long time. With a battery/generator, you'd only have power, while reliable, for a limited amount of time.
Re:Solar and Wind Turbine (Score:5, Informative)
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Though as the article mentions, it's not like they are going to allow a big generator and battery, either...
This was a reason I still have a landline.... (Score:4, Insightful)
Ma Bell and the landline service has been built out for generations and it shows.
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A problem that won't exist (Score:2)
I find it hard to believe that this is going to be an issue. The batteries don't have to be up on the roof, or on top of the water tower to be effective. Yes, the closer the better, but I doubt there will be more than a handful of places where there's no other place for them.
All CDMA are backed up already (Score:2)
Disaster response? (Score:5, Insightful)
I worry about the trend to move to cell phones. We rely on both our cell phone's battery and the cell tower to stay powered. We also rely on available frequencies to use the tower. In Katrina and recently the San Diego fires, everyone immediately got on their cell phones and jammed all of the towers. Is there enough redundancy, power, and capacity to handle the next disaster? I don't think we should wait for the next hurricane to prove if cell towers can handle an emergency.
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When I worked for ARCO Oil and Gas in the 1980's, they counted on the power being out. So they spent 13 million 1980 dollars to run a duplicate high power line from another grid to back up their data center. So their data center was served by two separate power grids. Also A
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Seems like something promoted by the generator manufacturers' association. 210,000? I guess that's why they're the FCC and I'm not. Big thinking.
So, they'll sit in their boxes at each cell company's disaster-fortified warehouse until needed? Or it will provide jobs for people to change the oil and gas and test (and guard?) them periodically on or off site? I'm assuming the former. So it's sort of like the big Pharma handouts we give them to stock warehouses of drugs t
I am in a Outage RIGHT NOW with NO Cell Service! (Score:5, Interesting)
Those Damn Ice Storms here in the Central US (today and yesterday). (Generators/UPS are so so nice!)
Had Cell Service (with AT&T/Cingular) for about 3 hours following the outage (currently the largest single outage in my state's history)... but apparently the cell-site UPS batteries drained and the tower site did not have a generator...
I am going to ask for a prorated refund for my service plan (and they will legally HAVE TO give me that discount for my contracted service being out).
If EVERYONE called up their service providers and asked specifically for their prorated discount for service being out (on that given day)... I bet they would invest in UPS/Generator combos at the cell tower sites... -Z
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Re:I am in a Outage RIGHT NOW with NO Cell Service (Score:2)
Oh, some cell sites had generators, but the cell co.'s had assumed they could just grab a gas can at
Thief Opportunity (Score:4, Interesting)
NEW CASH COW? Its bad enough in Dallas where miles lights were out along the divided highways in the Summer of 2006 because thieves pulled out the connecting. This was bad in the summer of 2006 and its better now since openings have been welded shut. I can see generators being the new cash cow for thieves.
Thanks
Jim
ambient power (Score:2, Interesting)
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Australian Cyclone Experience (Score:2)
There was major problems with the telephone systems. The landline systems had 24 hour battery backups, but beyond that, they had to rely on workers delivering gen
Lots o' problems (Score:2)
There are already plenty of hand-wringers who try to block any cell site due to "harmful radiation". Now that same group is going to be heading to city hall to complain about noisy/polluting/etc. generators and stacks of batteries full of lead an
I've dealt with this.... (Score:2)
We're putting too many eggs in one basket. That's one of the reasons why I'm an amateur radio operator [emergency-radio.org] (ham). If I had my license during the aforementioned problem, I could have easily gotten the other engineer on the airwaves
Katrina (Score:5, Informative)
Regarding hurricane Katrina:
I work for a large cell carrier. We had backup power to every single cell in the area. In fact, after the hurricane we were doing pretty well, though some of the towers were taken out by debris. Only a couple were actually submerged. We lost a few trunk lines, but for the most part the system was working.
The problem was we didn't have any way to get gas to the generators. The roads were impassible, and based on news reports we were reluctant to send crews in to the sites we could reach for security reasons. So after a couple days the cell sites started going offline one at a time as the generators ran out of power.
As far as I know every one of our sites, in the entire country, already has a couple days worth of backup power.
There is only one real solution for this. (Score:3, Interesting)
Specific Power EMB (5-10 kW/kg) Lead Acid (0.1-0.5 kW/kg)
Energy Recovery EMB (90%-95%) Lead Acid (60%-70%)
Specific Energy EMB (100 Wh/kg) Lead Acid (30-35 Wh/kg)
Service Lifetime EMB (>10 years) Lead Acid (3-5 years)
Self Discharge Time EMB (Weeks to months) Lead Acid (variable)
Hazardous Chemicals EMB (none) Lead Acid (Lead, Sulfur, & Acid)
"A new look at an Old Idea the Electromechanical Battery" Science and Technology Review April 1996 by
Dangerous EMB (possibly in massive physical impact) Lead Acid (High fire danger)
Caterpillar and Beacon power already sell off the shelf UPS based on EMB for anything up to a whole grid substation. These are the answer to balancing the output of solar and wind power as well, far better than ice batteries or lead acid. These are the answer to solving our reliability problems with the national power grid (if each substation could self power for even a few 1/10s of a second you can reroute the grid. In fact these are even a possible answer to batteries for cars thanks to new fiber based flywheels instead of steel. There is literally no sound reason to use Lead acid to backup a data center, a telephone switch, or a cell tower anymore.
The FCC should demand that the power backup meets a certain level of reliability and power density within a top percentile of the most cost effective solution so that people don't use old outdated technology just because it is a system that they are accustomed to.
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That's not strictly true. Power is often trunked in from considerable distance away. If the natural disaster effects the generation area and not the cell tower then the cell tower can be out even though it still has connectivity to the world.
Further, a lot of cell towers use microwave links to the nearby towers and even back to the phone company base; particularly towers in r
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Just because power is out in one town does not mean it would be off in another where that office is located. Even if the power was off where the central office is the equipment there is power backed up. Afterall it's providing service for a large area.
If power goes out in one town and takes out the towers for that town it's annoying, But nothing like having
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They arn't going to be looted. Then a thief would have to know how to hookup a permanent installation generator. (It could be a 3 phase generator which requires a equal load. On all the phases)
Plus something worth that much would have it's own serial # So if they tried to sell it. They run the risk of getting caught.
But then I have heard stories of people trying to steal copper from live mains. Getting killed in the process.
Re:power isn't the only problem (Score:4, Informative)
http://64.233.167.104/search?q=cache:cwTrqX9BMl8J:www.cse.umkc.edu/~beardc/WorkSummary.pdf+GSM+emergency+priority+traffic&hl=en&ct=clnk&cd=9&gl=us&client=firefox-a [64.233.167.104]
Wireless Priority Services
- Became a high priority after September 11, 2001.
Extension of the U.S. wireline GETS system that had been around for many years.
Used the same call queuing approach.
Only available from GSM providers
- Only GSM has priority call identifiers.
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