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How One Clumsy Ship Caused A Major Net Outtage
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CmdrTaco
on Sat Feb 02, 2008 11:23 AM
from the just-redial-the-modem dept.
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Ant writes "Here is an interesting world map of various Internet connections, showing how it took just one vessel to inflict the damage that brought down the internet for millions."
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Huh (Score:5, Funny)
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Re:Huh (Score:5, Interesting)
We have one line going from Brisbane to Hawaii and another from Sydney to New Zealand.
They are both part of the same network.
A few years back one of the cables got cut while the other was under maintenance.
All our internet was routed through the two western cables.
Do you realize how slow it was?
Dialup was severely affected and if you got 1kbps you were very lucky.
Thats just for a small 20million person country back in the day when everyone didn't have net.
Fast forward to today with high speed broadband and about 90 million people affected.
Yes data will be re-routed but it will probably be faster to snail mail Google asking for your search query.
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Re:Huh (Score:4, Insightful)
Do you realize how slow it was? Dialup was severely affected and if you got 1kbps you were very lucky. Thats just for a small 20million person country back in the day when everyone didn't have net.
We've become so spoiled. Bandwidth has made us lazy. Why, 1 kbps is basically a 9600 bps modem. I used to do practical things on the Internet as those speeds. Just getting on your average web site these days would take too long for comfort. And what do we get in exchange? A lot of flashy graphics and advertisements.
Oh well.
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Injustice (Score:5, Funny)
What?!?! (Score:5, Funny)
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Re:What?!?! (Score:4, Funny)
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Bush? (Score:3, Insightful)
1) existing splices rerouted thru existing infrastructure
2) one of links fail
3) splices give up and sever connection as it cannot be reliably copied anymore...
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Re:Injustice (Score:5, Funny)
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Re:Injustice (Score:5, Funny)
Some fisherman took "trolling the internet" a little too literally.
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3rd cable cut (Score:5, Insightful)
Re:3rd cable cut (Score:5, Informative)
The nation of Iran appears to be entirely disconnected from the Internet by these events: http://www.internettrafficreport.com/asia.htm [internettr...report.com]
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Re:3rd cable cut (Score:5, Insightful)
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Colombia (Score:4, Informative)
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unknown-ff-ff-00-ff-ff-ff:~ floydman$ ping Colombia.com
PING colombia.com (199.125.90.76): 56 data bytes
64 bytes from 199.125.90.76: icmp_seq=0 ttl=110 time=327.604 ms
64 bytes from 199.125.90.76: icmp_seq=1 ttl=110 time=333.573 ms
64 bytes from 199.125.90.76: icmp_seq=2 ttl=110 time=324.541 ms
64 bytes from 199.125.90.76: icmp_seq=3 ttl=110 time=324.487 ms
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Nobody was disconnected: besides the submarine cables, there are land cables and satellite connections, and the copper cables of old, which were used by telecoms.
Cable made out of Irony (Score:5, Funny)
Something tells me such a survey would not be very scientific.
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Wrong (Score:5, Funny)
"To great applause from the audience of music managers, McGuinness insisted that disconnection enforcement would work."
How right he was!
Send Them a Bill (Score:5, Interesting)
Re:Send Them a Bill (Score:5, Informative)
Actually, ships are governed by maritime law, which is designed to protect and encourage commerce; I'm not sure if they even would be responsible for damage from an anchor to a cable lying on the seafloor. From my limited recollection, vessel owners liability is generally the value of the vessel (not including the cargo).
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Re:Send Them a Bill (Score:5, Informative)
Ships/captains plying international waters must have up-to-date info. If they damage a cable that is on the maps, they are responsible.
See the great WIRED article from Neal Stephanson on the laying of FLAG:
http://www.wired.com/wired/archive/4.12/ffglass_pr.html [wired.com]
OK, it's an article from 1996, but it's one of the best WIRED articles (and looong) ever (back before they were owned by Conde Nast)
L. Scrub
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Re:Send Them a Bill (Score:4, Informative)
The fun part is the fact that when you touch the backbone cables suddenly the [direct] damages rises in a few orders of magnitude. And at that point it becomes more economically feasible for insurer to pull up any lawyer around than just to shrug it off.
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I don't get it (Score:4, Insightful)
Seriously as previous slashdot postings, one or two accidents may be a coincidence but three within a few weeks sounds more like a pattern.
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That's no physical location map. (Score:5, Informative)
Re:That's no physical location map. (Score:4, Informative)
Guess that's one way to avoid having your internet connection destroyed by an anchor...
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Re:That's no physical location map. (Score:4, Funny)
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Now, I am not talking about nuclear attacks... (Score:5, Interesting)
I was hoping the news would be "cable cut, millions of surfers notice a slowdown in streaming video".
Re:Now, I am not talking about nuclear attacks... (Score:5, Insightful)
1. We're talking about (relatively) poor countries, so the budget for massively redundant infrastructure simply isn't there.
2. Cables across land are easy when the region you go through is politically stable. It's another matter when there's a war going on. For example, Egypt shares borders with Sudan, and a cable going West from Egypt would cross Algeria.
3. Cables across hundreds of km of undeveloped desert aren't cheap to install or maintain. It's much easier along existing infrastructure, but even then it's an expensive business.
4. Items 1 and 3 combined mean that you'll get a few high-capacity links instead of multiple smaller-capacity links.
5. The telecom tradition of 100% uptime is typical of first-world countries. In Africa, people tend to be more accepting of the occasional outage. See #1.
Also, how much redundancy is enough? Currently, Egypt has 3 major links (FLAG, SEA-ME-WE 3 and SEA-ME-WE 4) to Europe, and 3 (the same cables) to Asia. They're all separated, so a single incident would take out (ballpark) 1/6 of their bandwidth. Severing 3 cables in one week falls under 'shit happens', IMO.
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Oh noes, teh pollutions. (Score:5, Funny)
Re:Oh noes, teh pollutions. (Score:4, Funny)
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Good thing it wasn't token-ring. We'd never find the token underwater!
Should be: How bad network design... (Score:5, Insightful)
Good news for US and European IT workers though: that buffoon who offshored your jobs has to explain why the IT department has been down for a few days. I guarantee the CEO/CFO is not amused that he can't get to SAP, or that the stores can't upload, or that whatever other mission critical system is off-line isn't working.
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See it to believe it (Score:5, Informative)
Off into the distance you can see the anchoring area. All the cables except the one that goes around the horn of Africa go through this channel. Maybe now it doesn't look so far fetched?
Re:See it to believe it (Score:5, Informative)
There are no fibres running on the bottom of the Suez canal, all the fibres take an overland route. There are three major Egyptian landing areas in the Mediterranean, two west of Al Iskandariyah (Alexandria), and one to the east of Port Said, well away from the entry to the canal. The cable routes overland are now quite redundant, as cable cuts happen so often in Egypt every company now has at least two routes with circuit protection. On the Red Sea side, there are at least two landing points, at Abadiya and one across from there on the eastern side of the sea.
All the cable landing zones are quite well marked on shipping charts (my google skills have failed me, I can't find an online chart site for Egypt, similar to this one for the UK [kisca.org.uk]). Ships are not supposed to drop anchor in those zones, no fishing allowed, no recreational boating, etc. At least in Europe, boaters can get a pretty heavy fine for dropping anchor in a restricted area, big enough that any captain who values his vessel/career knows to stay out of the areas. I doubt Egypt has such draconian enforcement, but the charts are clearly marked.
For the two cuts off of Al Iskandariyah, there was a large storm in the eastern Med the day of the cuts, gale force 7 winds with large swells. So the local authority moved the anchorage area to west of Al Iskandariyah, and many ships ended up anchoring in the restricted zone, dragging their anchors as they were pulled along by the strong easterly winds.
Only one cable near Egypt was cut at first, the second major cut was near France, which took out FLAG. There was then a third cut in the Egypt area, of the same FLAG fibre, but by a different ship dragging anchor. So FLAG got hit double hard.
The most recent cut was somewhere down off of Dubai, which took out even more capacity. It's been an interesting week, as European banking traffic to the Emirates now has to flow all the way around the world the wrong way, and many of the intermediate carriers are choking on the traffic.
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Everything into NYC? (Score:3, Interesting)
Does anyone know of a reason it's all being piped into New York?
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Transatlantic_telegraph_cable [wikipedia.org]
There is also a natural shelf along most of the route.
coincidence or silver lining? (Score:3, Funny)
Misleading graphic alert (Score:4, Informative)
The "Internet users affected by the Alexandria accident" plot to the left uses circles correctly.
Ireland in Peril (Score:3, Interesting)
Or better yet, a cable to France, for not just geographical diversity but also geopolitical diversity. A cable to the Netherlands would give even better interconnectedness.
And of course it would be even better if that connection landed somewhere else than Dublin, so there's no failure bottleneck point.
Any extra cables would also increase Ireland's overall Internet bandwidth. As that country climbs out of the Industrial Age (and really the Farming Age), it'll need more than one cable. Especially if it doesn't want to get squeezed by some "bottleneck master".
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Are Sea Cables "Abandoned & Salvageable"? (Score:3, Interesting)
These cables DO contain valuable metals in them like copper, aluminum, and steel (probably stainless)? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Submarine_communications_cable [wikipedia.org]
(I do realize that some of the recent cable cuts are not in international waters, but is still is an interesting query.)
I am not endorsing any harm of, nor the "salvaging" of any undersea cabling.
However, there are many, many others in the world who do not have the same sense of right and wrong (and virtually all of these examples are NOT in International Waters.)
http://www.google.com/search?num=50&hl=en&safe=off&q=wire+theft+copper+aluminum&btnG=Search [google.com]
designed to survive nuclear war (Score:3, Interesting)
Re:So It Wasn't The Evil US's Fault??!! (Score:5, Funny)
Not all Slashdotters are *from* the US, you insensitive clod! I, for one, am posting from Teheran University and don't see why I should have to
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"Tha facts have come out:" (Score:5, Interesting)
"According to reports, the internet blackout, which has left 75 million people with only limited access, was caused by a ship that tried to moor off the coast of Egypt in bad weather on Wednesday."
According to whose reports? Published where? What was the name of the ship? How was it discovered that it caused all the damage? Is the same ship also responsible for the third cable cut, which did not occur in the Mediterranean, and later than Wednesday?
This what you refer to as "facts". I sure hope you intended sarcasm.
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Not me. The whole stupid article was a whole stupid article. One ship hit all three cables? Which ship? TFA attests that a ship's anchor hit hit the cable(s). No affirmation. Nothing. No wonder we don't read the damn articles.
IIRC, the first two cables cut were 22 km apart. That's a pretty good anchor drag. Not saying it's impossible - it's a big, wide ocean with lots of aging freighters run by crews that likely had to be brought on ship via the crane.
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