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Vista SP1 Update Locks Out Some Users
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kdawson
on Fri Feb 15, 2008 11:07 AM
from the lather-rinse-repeat dept.
from the lather-rinse-repeat dept.
Echostorm writes with word that Windows Vista SP1, which began rolling out via Automatic Update, has left some users' machines unbootable. The update loops forever on "Configuring updates: Stage 3 of 3 — 0% complete. Do not turn off your computer." "Shutting down"... restart and loop. Echostorm notes having found traces of what sounds like the same bug in early beta releases of SP1. It's unclear how many users are affected. So far there is no word on a fix from Microsoft.
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arogier writes "After numerous delays and an actual release reversal, the official release date for Vista service pack one has been set for Tuesday, March 18th on Windows Update and Microsoft Downloads. It will be released as an automatic update on April 18th. 'It's unclear so far how a February snafu will affect SP1's roll-out. Last month, after Microsoft pushed a pair of prerequisite patches to users, some reported that their machines refused to finish installing one of the fixes, then went into an endless series of reboots. Several days later, Microsoft pulled the update from automatic delivery, said it was working on a solution and promised it would "make the update available again shortly after we address the issue."' It would be a good time for those planning to adopt early to perform requisite backups and locate their restore media."
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You can't make this stuff up. (Score:5, Funny)
Re:You can't make this stuff up. (Score:5, Funny)
There, I fixed that for you.
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Only on Slashdot.
Re:You can't make this stuff up. (Score:5, Interesting)
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Re:You can't make this stuff up. (Score:5, Insightful)
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Re:You can't make this stuff up. (Score:5, Interesting)
So, yes. They have quite a large testing environment going on. I know you were kidding, but...
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Re:You can't make this stuff up. (Score:5, Funny)
Oddly enough everybody thought it was the best thing since sliced bread.
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Re:You can't make this stuff up. (Score:5, Funny)
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Re:You can't make this stuff up. (Score:5, Funny)
Oh wait. Never mind.
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Re:You can't make this stuff up. (Score:5, Funny)
In Soviet Russia, memes spew you....
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Re:You can't make this stuff up. (Score:4, Informative)
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Re:You can't make this stuff up. (Score:5, Insightful)
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Taking a leaf out of apple's book? (Score:5, Funny)
ROFLMAO (Score:4, Informative)
Ahhh, Microsoft. Thank you for all the work you throw my way!
The only thing I can confirm so far is yep, Safe Mode don't work.
Re:ROFLMAO (Score:5, Funny)
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SP1 prevents Vista from booting? (Score:5, Funny)
Win a T-Shirt! (Score:5, Funny)
Q: Vista SP1 gets locks up the machines after update.
A: [x] Fiction (wins a T-Shirt)
[ ] Fact (truth but no T-Shirt to you bad boy.)
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sarcasm |särkazm|
noun
the use of irony to mock or convey contempt : his voice, hardened by sarcasm, could not hide his resentment. See note at wit
ORIGIN mid 16th cent.: from French sarcasme, or via late Latin from late Greek sarkasmos, from Greek sarkazein 'tear flesh,' in late Greek 'gnash the teeth, speak bitterly' (from sarx, sark- 'flesh' ).
Vista is imitating Apple Again! (Score:5, Funny)
Ye who lack faith (Score:5, Funny)
Regression testing, people (Score:5, Insightful)
Re:Regression testing, people (Score:5, Funny)
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Re:Regression testing, people (Score:5, Insightful)
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Re:Regression testing, people (Score:4, Interesting)
* How many CPU makers are out there today? 2. (Transmeta is dead).
* How many companies make chipsets (north/southbridges) today? 4(?)
* GPU makers? 3.
* BIOS vendors? 3(?)
* Sound cards? 2 (Intel & Creative)
* Expansion interfaces? 2 (PCI, PCI-Express)
Now, look back to 1993-1995. How many no-name brand BIOSes caused problems? How many brands of VGA chipsets were there? CPU makers? (Think Intel, AMD, Cyrix, NexGen, C&T,...) How many expansion interfaces were there (ISA, VLB, PCI, MCA). How many brands had their own incompatible hardware, where Microsoft's HIMEM.SYS had special switches for (AST, Everex, IBM PS/2, etc.) All of these worked well with DOS/Win3.x and Win95.
No, this is Microsoft's way of saying "we don't know what's wrong with Vista!"
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3 GPU makers? (Score:4, Informative)
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Re:Regression testing, people (Score:5, Interesting)
Your funny math makes my brain hurt.
The number of vendors is a horrible measurement. Try variants on for size:
How many CPU variants does one of the two manufacturers currently support? Try over 125. http://products.amd.com/en-us/DesktopCPUResult.aspx?f1=&f2=&f3=&f4=&f5=&f6=&f7=&f8=&f9=& [amd.com] Oh, and that's just for the desktop.
GPU? NVidia has 38 families of chipsets. At ~5 products for each chipset, you're over 190.
What about all of the other hardware on a motherboard? Bluetooth, USB, Firewire, network drivers and modems are some of the largest contributers to OS development overhead/headache; tell me, have you ever tried to load up Feisty Ubuntu using a Broadcomm wireless device?!?
By the way, this doesn't include all of the half-assed components people drop onto their computers like humping dog memory sticks or coffee warmers let alone all of the out of date drivers people have installed on their systems (have you checked your BIOS rev lately?).
This isn't "Microsoft's way of saying 'we don't know what's wrong with Vista,'" it's Microsoft's way of saying, "we're trying our damnedest to clean this up, but you idiots keep pissing in the pool."
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The problem is clearly your imagination. MS has a complete and total grasp on the situation. Their sales rep told me so.
Re:Regression testing, people (Score:5, Interesting)
It appears that each little division of Microsoft is their own little fiefdom. Take a common DLL - comctl32.dll (common controls). Windows ships with one version. Office ships with another version. Applications (using Visual Studio Redistributables) ship with a third version! Each has features that aren't in the others, so Windows apps get one look, Office another look, and 3rd party apps yet another look.
In addition, the OS team forked the compiler they use from the development team. It makes sense in one aspect - all developers have a stable toolchain. However, if the dev team breaks something, instead of the Windows team making a big stink, people who use Visual Studio do.
As far as anyone's concerned, Microsoft might as well be split up into separate companies - they more or less act that way anyhow. Code's taken from one team and forked, improvements aren't folded back in, etc.
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It's not on windows update (Score:5, Informative)
Re:It's not on windows update (Score:5, Insightful)
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Re:It's not on windows update (Score:5, Interesting)
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Don't Panic!!!! (Score:4, Funny)
Brick?!? (Score:5, Funny)
Re:Brick?!? (Score:4, Funny)
Anyway, who cares? I suddenly feel like it's time to can Windows altogether and finally do the switch to Linux.
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For those who say "Get a Mac" (Score:5, Interesting)
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That's some keen fucking reporting (Score:5, Informative)
Echostorm writes with word that Windows Vista SP1, which began rolling out via Automatic Update, has left some users' machines unbootable.
A forum post from last month about issues with the Vista SP1 Release Candidate (prerelease code, just to let Echostorm know). SP1 does not go out via auto updates until next month, and is only officially available to select system builders and beta testers now.
It's unclear how many users are affected.
I counted 5, including the guy who yanked his power cable and trashed his filesystem.
So far there is no word on a fix from Microsoft.
It might possibly be fixed in the RTM version of SP1. Who knows? Certainly not Echostorm, who is having a poopie because he hosed his own PC and is trying to drum up a whine-fest about it. Definitely not kdawson either, who posted this because, well, it's kdawson.
This is taking slashvertisments to the preschool tantrum level.
Repair disk fixes vista problem (Score:5, Funny)
Vista Repair Disk [kernel.org]
I used it as soon as I started having problems with Vista on a new work computer and it's been smooth sailing ever since.
Somewhat reminds me. . . (Score:5, Funny)
Um, yeah.
I call Shenanigans (Score:3, Interesting)
ASUS P5N-E (Score:5, Informative)
A very large number of owners of ASUS P5N-E motherboards are reporting the same issue simply with recent updates. It's quite likely the SP1 update is simply triggering the same issue.
Here's a google search on the issue [google.com]. You'll notice a common thread is that P5N-E owners have the issue, users of other motherboards don't see it.
It's been happening since mid January, from what I can gather, and I'm not finding any solutions to it yet.
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Certainly not what I'd call an "easy" process -- easy for me, maybe -- but it's by no means a brick.
Vista SP1 isn't public yet, unless you pirate it. (Score:5, Informative)
Microsoft placed 6 weeks between code finalization and public release for 6 weeks of driver testing; some drivers were not properly written, and MS wanted to work with hardware manufacturers/OEMs to find hardware with problems. Everyone bitched about how technical users should get it early.
Then these same people download SP1 from an unauthorized source, and bitch when it breaks their system. They downloaded an update without letting Microsoft work the kinks out, and they didn't get the update from MS. No automatic download was involved in this.
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I havn't found a single thread about someone saying anything about windows update.
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Sanctus, Sanctus, Sanctus, Dominus Deus Sabaoth Pleni sunt caeli et terra gloria tua...
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automatic updates? (Score:5, Informative)
They however failed to tell what drivers were affected, and how you can manually fix it. Yanking the power cord certainly is not the method MS would recommend. It htink you need the install disk and run some kind of recovery mode. (that is how it worked under XP.
The linked forum post is referring to a RC, not to the RTM.
http://windowsvistablog.com/blogs/windowsvista/archive/2008/02/11/windows-vista-sp1-availability-for-technical-customers.aspx [windowsvistablog.com]
"For broad availability, we are still planning to release in mid-March, since we want to be sure that everyone has the smoothest experience possible.". You can have it earlier if you are want to touch buttons....
windows update is only pushing
the final two of three prerequisite updates needed to install Windows Vista SP1 [windowsvistablog.com]
basically it says you still need 2 more reboots before you can have sp1 automatically.
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