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A New Paradigm For Web Browsing

Posted by Soulskill on Sun Mar 09, 2008 09:33 AM
from the a-keyboard-how-quaint dept.
dsaci points out a New York Times article about how surfing the web may change to a more graphics-based endeavor. With the advent of devices like the Wii and the iPhone, the capability to directly control objects on a screen is becoming a popular and affordable technology. That, combined with immersive interfaces such as Piclens, could be the future of web browsing. Quoting: "'I've wondered for a long time why the computer interface hasn't changed from 20 years ago,' said Austin Shoemaker, a former Apple Computer software engineer and now chief technology officer of Cooliris. 'People should think of a computer interface less as a tool and more as a extension of themselves or as extension of their mind.' Voice, too, is finally beginning to play a significant role as an interface tool in a new generation of consumer-oriented wireless handsets. Many technologists now believe that hunting and pecking on the tiny keyboards of cellphones and P.D.A.'s will quickly give way to voice commands that will return map, text and other data displayed visually on small screens."
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  • by Gothmolly (148874) on Sunday March 09 2008, @09:36AM (#22692326)
    Dragon on a reasonably powerful PC might work, but until you can nail 110% correct recognition, in a crowded area, in a shitty little mic on a 400 MHz ARM processor, don't bother. You don't want to start arguing with your PocketPC about traffic and directions: No, I said Springfield, not Slingblade! *crash*

    The keyboard works, 100% of the time. Its easily understood. Its robust. It fails gracefully - you immediately see if you've made a mistake before submitting a command.
    • You are underestimating the practice that years of running Windows has given to the average user. That *crash* will not come as a surprise. There could be a market for a technology that turns the windscreen blue just before the actual crash. Finally BSOD will have a more ... real ... meaning.
        • by jay-za (893059) * <jdoller AT gmail DOT com> on Sunday March 09 2008, @10:19AM (#22692520) Homepage

          It will be on a phone.
          Most of the PDA phones available these days (or at least the ones available in South Africa) come with a built in GPS unit, or at least a GPS extension module. Touchy-feely isn't that great an idea when you're driving, so voice becomes an important issue here.

          I've never seen one crash. Then again, I haven't had much exposure to Windows Mobile.
          As the proud owner of an iMate JAM, an iMate K-JAM and a Mio P550, as well as having a number of friends with older HTCs and other iMates, I can assure you that yes, they do crash. And more annoying than when they crash is when bluetooth, or WiFi suddenly stops working, or when the addressbook suddenly appears empty until you reboot. My presonal favourite is when the handwriting recognition goes for a loop (that's a memory problem, I eventually found out).

          But what REALLY gets to me is when the device just quetly hangs once it's gone into standby mode. With the phones, it meant I silently dissapeared off the cell network until I realised there was a problem, which is usuazlly when I try to use the device.

          I have some friends with the newer HTC phones, and they report that WM6 seems to be more stable, but a few of them have reported serious problems with battery life.

          I think there are a lot of things we need to sort out with mobile devices before we look at redoing the interface.
          • by Dun Malg (230075) on Sunday March 09 2008, @01:25PM (#22693594) Homepage

            As the proud owner of an iMate JAM, an iMate K-JAM and a Mio P550, as well as having a number of friends with older HTCs and other iMates, I can assure you that yes, they do crash... I have some friends with the newer HTC phones, and they report that WM6 seems to be more stable, but a few of them have reported serious problems with battery life.
            Indeed, I used to use a Mio A701 (WM5) and it was a bloody nightmare. It required a reboot every 6-8 hours because the radio driver would quietly crap out (no error message, the phone would simply no longer receive or place calls!). I've had much better luck with my HTC TYTN II/Kaiser (an AT&T Tilt I reflashed with the HTC Kaiser ROM) with WM6. Battery life was indeed an issue at first, but if you're a dork like me you can try different radio ROMs until you find the one that lasts longest with your hardware. I recently flashed it to WM6.1 (requiring a 6.1 compatible radio ROM) and battery life is even better. As much as I'd love a non-Microsoft OS on my phone, I have to admit that WM6 is perfectly serviceable for my needs. It's relatively open so there's lots of software and hacks for it, and the phones with the features I require* all run it.

            * slide out keyboard, GPS, touch screen, simple USB laptop tethering, and HSDPA, so don't point that stupid toy "1 out of 5 ain't bad" iPhone at me!
        • Re: (Score:3, Interesting)

          I've seen phones of all sorts crash, you obviously haven't used many phones. Symbian will crash and burn at least as well as Windows Mobile when running nonstandard apps. But that comes with the territory of Java and mass availability of custom third party apps.
    • by mh1997 (1065630) on Sunday March 09 2008, @09:44AM (#22692360)

      The keyboard works, 100% of the time.
      Tyess, thek eypboard isg thew perfeddct ddevicwe4 requirening litttttttttttle skil and is foo l profo.
      • by calebt3 (1098475) on Sunday March 09 2008, @09:48AM (#22692388)
        Giving the computer bad instructions != the computer misunderstanding those instrutions.
      • I realize you were joking, but as the poster said, you illustrated his point: let's say you wanted to dictate that response. Those aren't words, so how do you do it?

        "T". "y". "e". "s"....

        *5 minutes later*

        "o". "f". "o". "Period".

        No matter how fast the system responds, you can probably type the letters faster than you can dictate them. Similar things would happen when dealing with non-natural languages, such as programming languages. Can you imagine trying to dictate a regular expression? :)

        A voice is a wonderful thing, but we should probably acknowledge that it's not always the most appropriate input method for the job. In some scenarios, such as writing a lengthy Word document or transcribing meeting minutes, dictation offers great promise (if we can ensure a high degree of accuracy), but it is virtually useless in others.
        • by mh1997 (1065630) on Sunday March 09 2008, @10:09AM (#22692482)
          "Thanks, you've illustrated my point perfectly."

          Glad to be of service, but I'd rather use simple voice commands to control a portable device. My cellphone has the ability to dial by voice, recognizing both names and numbers. It's not perfect, but it is usually faster than typing or searching for contacts.

          Voice control and other methods are only infants compared to keyboards, but just like the keyboard improved from a mechanical device on a typewriter into a simple multi-function electronic device, other input technologies will improve.

          I'm just looking forward to the day when the computer interfaces with my brain and provides all inputs so that I can just lie in some tube and experience the reality that the computer determines is best for me.

          • by Fred_A (10934) <fred&fredshome,org> on Sunday March 09 2008, @11:20AM (#22692868) Homepage

            "Thanks, you've illustrated my point perfectly."

            Glad to be of service, but I'd rather use simple voice commands to control a portable device. My cellphone has the ability to dial by voice, recognizing both names and numbers. It's not perfect, but it is usually faster than typing or searching for contacts.



            Voice control and other methods are only infants compared to keyboards, but just like the keyboard improved from a mechanical device on a typewriter into a simple multi-function electronic device, other input technologies will improve.



            I'm just looking forward to the day when the computer interfaces with my brain and provides all inputs so that I can just lie in some tube and experience the reality that the computer determines is best for me.

            Where did I read
            "Text-based interfaces have proven that most users can't read.
            Graphic interfaces have proven that most users can't understand abstractions.
            Mind reading interfaces will prove that most users can't think."

            I have little doubt that it will happen that way.
    • by ShieldW0lf (601553) on Sunday March 09 2008, @09:53AM (#22692418) Journal
      Aside from that, for someone who is competent it's faster to type than it is to speak, and it's much faster to twitch your hand half an inch than it is to wave it around touching the screen.

      Everything outlined in the article is leading away from integrating technology into your core capacities. It's about taking a tool and turning into a third party agent that you need to interact with as though it were some sort of person.

      Making a more efficient computer interface means making the muscle movements involved more subtle, not replacing what efficiencies we have with new paradigms that require gross muscle movements and voice strain.

      Integrating mouse gestures into the operating system and and moving to one-handed chording keyboards as a standard would be the right direction.

      If the brainless masses want Fisher-Price toys, fine. But lets not pretend that Fisher-Price make better tools.
      • by smallfries (601545) on Sunday March 09 2008, @10:14AM (#22692502) Homepage
        There is a more general lesson here. When someone comes out of the workwork and says: "Look I've invented a new type of input device" then generally it will be interesting regardless of how well it works. When someone tries to flog the same dead horse that hasn't worked for twenty years then you know that it will suffer all the same failures. I'm sure everyone in this crowd has used voice activated interfaces and knows just how much they suck.

        When a business analyst / investment "consultant" starts hyping up marginal advances as revolutionary and talking about coming "paradigm shifts" then you know that the bullshit is in full flow. Accelerometer interfaces are nice, they do feel more natural - I worked on one for an educational games project seven years ago. But the key point that you've captured is they are intrusive. Until the accuracy is high enough that we can make a twitch interface they are not a replacement for the traditional tools of mouse and keyboard.

        What really pissed me off about the article was the insistence that these interfaces were a "direct manipulation" of images on screen. No, if you reach in and move an image (somehow) then that would be direct manipulation. If your physical gestures are translated into screen motion by accelerometers rather than a mouse then it is still an indirect interface. It is at most a minor increment on the user interface technology that we have already, the term "Paradigm Shift" is thrown about with abandon by too many suits without a understanding of what it implies.
      • by OMNIpotusCOM (1230884) on Sunday March 09 2008, @11:42AM (#22693000) Homepage Journal
        I type over 70 WPM using what you term muscle twitches. With a very small amount of training I can use voice recognition software at over 160 WPM and it doesn't involve strain (other than the mental "strain" of enunciating). Aside from that, nothing is ever misspelled (homonyms and other nuances are all you must worry about).

        People talk all day (ask my mother-in-law) without losing their voice or straining any muscles, but have you ever typed literally all day? It is unreasonable to expect someone to type as fast as they can dictate with the same amount of training in each.

        On Vista saying "open notepad" is much faster than trying to remember where it is buried on the menu. People can pick up a mic with a list of key words in front of them and more easily use the computer than they could with a mouse. Other just touching what they want instead of determining the difference between left-click, right-click, double-click, drag, etc... This is the reason that programming languages that read closer to English are usually more popular, they're simply easier to pick up and understand. Nobody wants to remember syntax.

        Maybe you shouldn't talk about things you have no experience in, let alone try to make analogies that bare no relevance to the discussion. Maybe your closed-mindedness is the reason that interfaces haven't changed much, but I'm willing to bet that you will get on your Iphone and call all your friends to discuss how stupid this poster named OMNI-something was on /. ... or if not you'll sure send them a text message using T9 instead of just pounding out each letter individually. Tell Fisher Price about that.
        • by arth1 (260657) on Sunday March 09 2008, @12:24PM (#22693252) Homepage Journal

          On Vista saying "open notepad" is much faster than trying to remember where it is buried on the menu.

          In Windows 2000, it isn't. What's changed is added bells and whistles to the start menu, as well as an artificial delay (presumably to help those who aren't good at quickly and correctly moving the pointer). With Windows XP, the "dynamic" menu was also introduced, making the menu in its default setting hide what you haven't used recently, and at the same time preventing any kind of spatial memorization of where to find things -- it can and will change. With Windows Vista, there's a huge big mess of trying to replace menus with predictive breadcrumbs (yet another way to prevent spatial memory), and some of these design choices have even hit the innocent start menu. To the point that it now /is/ very slow.
          That doesn't mean having menus is the slow choice.

          And it's a hell of a lot faster than repeating yourself multiple times, or having to use a menu /anyhow/, because it's too noisy for voice control where you are, or you have to be quiet.

          What's needed, IMO, is a simplification of the UI, focusing on simplicity and consistency, and not done by trying to second-guess the user or provide a more "natural feeling". Saying "Enhance 224 to 176. Stop" might work in a movie, but in real life, it's by far easier to drag a mouse box over an area.

          Anecdotes have it that the tree most common words said on voice operated telephone menus are "no", "dammit" and "operator".

          Regards,
          --
          *Art
    • by vertinox (846076) on Sunday March 09 2008, @10:20AM (#22692524)
      The keyboard works, 100% of the time. Its easily understood. Its robust. It fails gracefully - you immediately see if you've made a mistake before submitting a command.

      True, but they should be focusing on other methods of input.

      This could be anything from the one handed keyboard, ear canal senor that detects tongue movement, or mouse cursor that follows eye movement.

      Personally, I'd wouldn't mind having an electrode in my arm or back if it means I could use small muscle movements to input text and mouse movement but that might be a hard sell to the average joe.
    • You don't want to start arguing with your PocketPC about traffic and directions: No, I said Springfield, not Slingblade! *crash*
      It could be worse, much much worse: No, I said goats, not goatse! My eyes!
    • by MacDork (560499) on Sunday March 09 2008, @10:34AM (#22692606) Journal

      you immediately see if you've made a mistake before submitting a command.

      Well, the problem with that is that you have to look at the darned device to do anything. Speaker independent voice recognition works quite well already on a Nokia N95. You hold a button, speak a name from your address book, and it not only displays and speaks what it thinks you want for confirmation, but it also has a list of next best guesses. You're not going Captain Picard with the thing, but it works well with minimal input. In noisy areas, just hold it close and speak up. You can't say that with most "smart" phones like iPhone and it doesn't demand your eyeballs if, for instance, you really need to place a call while driving. I use it all the time in preference to the keyboard because it beats flipping through the hundreds of address book entries in my phone. I like that direction in UI and hope we continue to see more of it rather than dwell on how glossy and cool our phones look.

      • rather than dwell on how glossy and cool our phones look.

        I think that "glossy and cool" is the aspect that will win the day for voice recognition in phones. Usable keypads have a minimum size, and that size is too large to look good in the pocket of a pair of tailored pants or a suit jacket. It will be a simple matter for marketing to make having a Blackberry "brick" clipped to your belt passé. This isn't a concern for much of the Slashdot crowd, but it will be a driving factor for a significant port
  • by cojsl (694820) on Sunday March 09 2008, @09:44AM (#22692362) Homepage
    Hopefully "they" also develop good image to speech technologies, or are they forgetting that there are many visually impaired Internet users?
      • Re: (Score:3, Funny)

        What about the dead? Now that we're untaxable, we've got lots of disposable income for gadgets.
  • Doesn't bother me (Score:5, Insightful)

    by nizo (81281) * on Sunday March 09 2008, @09:47AM (#22692380) Homepage Journal
    As long as the extra flashy junk doesn't impede my ability to get useful information from a website, I will be fine with it. There have been so many sites that don't seem to understand this though (yahoo maps is a great example, among many many sites. The original "low bandwidth" version is still more useful than their "new bling improved" version, even over a high speed connection). Ebay is headed down the path of "bling overload" too. What bothers me is when a site adds rotating blinking things without considering, "what improvements does this give us or the user trying to use our website?"
  • As long as a lot of people are still on dial-up this will not be able to be a big thing.
  • Not only that (Score:5, Insightful)

    by dreamchaser (49529) on Sunday March 09 2008, @09:49AM (#22692394) Homepage Journal
    I certainly don't want to be on a bus or plane with dozens of people all yakking commands to their devices, nor do I necessarily want to display to the world what commands I am giving to my device. Voice control is nice in certain circumstances, but until they give me a direct neural interface I want keys and/or stylus and/or cursor control and input options.
    • I certainly don't want to be on a bus or plane with dozens of people all yakking commands to their devices, nor do I necessarily want to display to the world what commands I am giving to my device.
      Computer, download midget orgy dot A Vee Eye!

  • Voice is too slow (Score:5, Insightful)

    by Mprx (82435) on Sunday March 09 2008, @09:49AM (#22692398)
    I can think faster than I can speak unambiguous commands. Using a combination of keyboard shortcuts, extended mouse buttons and mouse gestures I can browse fast enough that the bottleneck is almost always reading comprehension. This is also much less tiring than speaking. A better solution might be a combination of eye tracking and brainwave monitoring, but that's still far too unreliable.
    • Re: (Score:3, Insightful)

      I think you hit the nail on the head. This is my biggest complaint about voice control. It is slower than keyboard and mouse. For example, when selecting text on a page, it is much faster to point and click then to say select "select tenth line down." If for no other no other reason than I had to count the lines to know to select the tenth one. We see this everyday when we talk to people. A large part of the conversation involves hand gestures, head nods, etc. People say "look and this," and then po
  • by krahd (106540) on Sunday March 09 2008, @09:51AM (#22692406) Homepage Journal
    "'I've wondered for a long time why the computer interface hasn't changed from 20 years ago,'
    OK, playing a little devil's advocate here. Perhaps the building bricks of computer interfaces and their basic interaction mechanics haven't changed because they are all right as they are now.
    We have developed an interaction language that allows us to express interaction proposals and allows the users to understand those proposals and, therefore, to interact successfully with our systems. Why should we change that if it is working?

    Change for change's sake, when we have an established language does not sound sound... I don't see no one complaining that we've been calling chairs "chairs" for so many years...
    • Re: (Score:3, Insightful)

      I'll partially rebut you both. I think that his question includes its own answer. The interfaces are supposed to be an extension of our minds, right? Well, 30 years ago when the first WIMP-y interfaces were developed, the closest we could get was to approximate things that our brain had developed to interact with.

      Our brains are perhaps the most plastic knowledge-based system we currently know of. Over those twenty years of widespread use, our minds have become accustomed to the interfaces available. W

  • by JonTurner (178845) on Sunday March 09 2008, @09:51AM (#22692408) Journal
    Talk is cheap. All this balderdash about next-gen interfaces, 3D, voice control, blah-blah-blah and how your great ideas will revolutionize the industry. Well, let's see it! How about some examples? The windowed GUI was an obvious quantum improvement for the vast majority of computer users (yes, I realize that on /. command line is king) but there has been no movement forward for nearly 20 years. Most importantly, the GUI window paradigm worked well. Let's see your prototypes rather than just more "big ideas" or is this simply a rehash of the "one day we'll have flying cars" speech, applied to computers?

    I have to admit that I didn't agree with his ideas, but Jef Raskin, RIP, (original concept for Macintosh, "Swyft", "Canon Cat") was one of the few designers who was brave enough to take a clean-slate approach to interface design and then *implement* it to see if the ideas stood up to real-world use.
    • Re: (Score:3, Insightful)

      The windowed GUI was an obvious quantum improvement for the vast majority of computer users (yes, I realize that on /. command line is king)

      Even command-line users pretty much all run their terminals under a windowing system these days. Even if they use traditional editors like emacs and vi, most people default to using versions of those that take advantage of the features that GUI environments provide. And how many people do you think browse Slashdot from the command-line? Methinks the number is small.

      S

    • Re: (Score:3, Insightful)

      What especially annoys me is stuff like this; ... will quickly give way to voice commands ... How long have people been claiming this now? Not sure if it's been quite 20 years or just 15. Be that as it may: for most applications voice input is a stupid idea. It hasn't become widespread in all these years because nobody likes to use it, and there is no reason to expect that to change.
  • voice control (Score:5, Insightful)

    by theheadlessrabbit (1022587) on Sunday March 09 2008, @09:51AM (#22692412) Homepage Journal
    voice recognition as it is today is painful.

    "Computer, start, programs, Mozilla, fire fox , double you, double you, double you, dot, google, dot, com, search field, violent, asian, porn. I'm feeling lucky. click"

    its a slow, painful, annoying as hell process that brings you back to the keyboard and mouse once the novelty has worn off, and only leaves the user feeling ripped off for wasting so much money on a fancy new inferior interface.

    voice recognition won't be useful until it is intelligent. I should only have to say "Computer, google porn" and get my results. I shouldn't have to explain to my computer step by step how to open a freaken browser.
    • Re: (Score:3, Interesting)

      voice recognition won't be useful until it is intelligent.

      voice recognition won't be useful until either

      a) the computer understands what you're talking about, which will take forever to achieve or

      b) the current paradigm, which you summarize so aptly -- voice being used to interact with items made specifically for interaction using your hands -- dies, and is replaced with an interface that is designed to supplement hands with voice. even the Orson Card's "vocalisation" interface makes more sense than what's
    • Re:voice control (Score:4, Insightful)

      by calebt3 (1098475) on Sunday March 09 2008, @10:03AM (#22692464)
      And then there is entering /.'s URL.
  • Here's an exercise (Score:5, Insightful)

    by Anonymous Coward on Sunday March 09 2008, @09:55AM (#22692430)
    Here's an exercise for those who believe voice commands are the way to go for small electronics. Every time you use your cell phone, iPod, PDA or GPS, say each command out loud before entering it. See if you can keep this up for a full day.
  • by Haeleth (414428) on Sunday March 09 2008, @10:12AM (#22692488) Journal
    Piclens looks cool and all, but it's just a proprietary program (like Google Earth, really) that happens to run in a web browser.

    Want to use it on Linux? Sorry, you're out of luck, it's Win/Mac only for now; they say there'll be a Linux port one day; but as this is a proprietary technology, you won't get Linux support until they deign to implement it.

    Want to use it with Opera? Sorry, you're out of luck, it's IE/Safari/Firefox only for now; and it will probably remain so, as they say they're not interested in supporting minority browsers; and as it's a proprietary technology, Opera can't add their own support for it.

    Want to use it on an iPhone? Sorry...

    This is not a step forward.
  • We'll see (Score:4, Interesting)

    by owlman17 (871857) on Sunday March 09 2008, @10:16AM (#22692510)
    I don't know. In the 80s, back in the days of MS-DOS, I vowed never to switch from a CLI. A GUI (on a regular PC) was not only slow as molasses, I could think and type faster on a keyboard than use those new-fangled things called mice. I bought one just for the heck of it. It came with a primitive paint program and a TSR for shortcuts. I figured it'd have a niche but it would never hit mainstream. I wasn't the only one who felt that way. There's a lot of skepticism judging from the posts so far, but who knows? Resistance is normal I guess at the start. We'll have to wait and see.
    • Re:We'll see (Score:5, Insightful)

      by Steve001 (955086) on Sunday March 09 2008, @10:36AM (#22692628)

      I think one of the hinderances to practical voice recognition has been the telephone paradigm (described in the book "Being Digital" by Nicholas Negroponte) where the computer is supposed to understand anything that anyone says at any time. What might work for voice recognition is for the user to have a custom chip that will allow a device to be configured to understand that specific user. Move the chip to a new device and that device will understand you perfectly.

      What might also work is if the user trains himself/herself to speak in a way that the computer can consistently recognize, much like the user of Palm's Graffiti handwriting system learned to write in a way that the PDA could consistenly understand. With training, speaking that would could become second nature, much like typing has become for many users.

  • by TransEurope (889206) <eniac&uni-koblenz,de> on Sunday March 09 2008, @10:19AM (#22692518)
    It's because it works like it is. And the "new" ways of controlling aren't advantages, they are just ways of fixing the disadvantages of small displays and small devices lacking (working!) methods of cotrolling like mouses, trackballs and so on.
  • more like a tool (Score:5, Insightful)

    by radarsat1 (786772) on Sunday March 09 2008, @10:26AM (#22692550) Homepage

    'People should think of a computer interface less as a tool and more as a extension of themselves or as extension of their mind.'

    I wish people could learn to think of their computers more as "just a tool". Half the time I see people having problems with computer usage, it's because they're expecting the thing to read their mind. I have to explain to them just how dumb a computer is, and that you really have to tell it what to do because it's just a machine.

    (The other half, of course, is due to shitty software.)
  • Now excuse me while I hop in my Moller. I'm late for a meeting at the Zeiss-Ikon factory.

  • by WarwickRyan (780794) on Sunday March 09 2008, @10:33AM (#22692598)
    Anything that can improve the experience of browsing with a single hand would be a godsend to us avid, erm, 'surfers'.
  • by dissy (172727) on Sunday March 09 2008, @10:34AM (#22692614)

    Many technologists now believe that hunting and pecking on the tiny keyboards of cellphones and P.D.A.'s will quickly give way to voice commands that will return map, text and other data displayed visually on small screens."
    Despite the fact most of us are extremely faster at typing than 'hunt and pecking', even the slowest hunt and pecker is going to be exponentially more accurate at input with a keyboard than even the best voice recognition software in existence today.

    Voice recognition still sucks badly, even after a lot of time investment into it.
    Maybe if someone got around to fixing that somehow, then we would consider, you know, using it.
    I'm not at all suggesting we give up that line of research, just suggesting we put the horse before the cart here.

    Or at least don't lie and say "will quickly give way to voice commands" and call it what it is. Those people want it to happen, and there is nothing wrong with that! Each tech has people that would prefer it over others. To each their own!
    But to out right lie and say that it will happen 'quickly' is just embarrassing for your career as a technologist.

  • by Phoenix666 (184391) on Sunday March 09 2008, @10:43AM (#22692644)
    The other day I overheard my neighbor two cubes over say the following in syncopated fashion: "teens," "threesome," "bukkake."
  • Long Way to Go (Score:3, Insightful)

    by Starky (236203) on Sunday March 09 2008, @11:16AM (#22692840)
    I use a Windows Mobile device. Involuntarily. Aside from my other beefs (the biggest of which is that they do not support anything other than Outlook to sync ... I am indescribably perturbed by that "feature"), the voice recognition software is completely useless.

    Sitting alone in a room with no background noise whatsoever, speaking as clearly as an evening news anchor, I get about a 5-10% success rate.

    If that's the best voice recognition out there for mobile devices at the moment, it's got a very long way to go before it could be useful for Joe Average.

  • by pandrijeczko (588093) on Sunday March 09 2008, @11:25AM (#22692902)
    ...You may have such an empty shell of a life that the only time you feel important is when you're connected to the Internet and therefore feel the need to impose those ideals on everyone else on the basis that you're also so self-conscious that you dare not stand out from the rest of the sheeple.

    As for me? In my mid-40s now, I was born into the age of home computing, ZX Spectrums and Manic Miner, man walking on the moon, Led Zeppelin and Deep Purple, the birth of the Internet, Web and Linux. I love the Internet, I spend more time computing than watching TV these days, these are great times.

    But I am NOT and NEVER WILL BE some soulless idiot who needs to spend his entire life peering into some huge or tiny computer screen never looking up to see what's happening in the real world. There are too many interesting REAL people to meet, too many good foods and wines to savour (preferably with some of those interesting real people), too much good music to listen to, to many books to read while laying on a sandy beach, etc. etc.

    If you want to turn YOUR life into an extension of the Internet (or whatever it is you're wittering on about) then go do it. But then I hope in your case there is no afterlife that gives you the opportunity to look back upon that empty shell of a life you had to give you the chance to regret wasting it away.

    Computers, phones, MP3 players, etc. etc. are FANTASTIC TOOLS for work, socialising and entertainment, no question about it. But they are there to ENHANCE our modern lives, not OWN them!

  • Simple answer (Score:5, Insightful)

    by glwtta (532858) on Sunday March 09 2008, @11:57AM (#22693072) Homepage
    I've wondered for a long time why the computer interface hasn't changed from 20 years ago

    Because it works.

    Whereas all the attempts at shifting the paradigms to an extension of your soul (or whatever), just result in unusable exercises in masturbation (and not the kind the internet was invented for).

    Remember how Flash was going to be the future of the web? Yeah.
  • by pongo000 (97357) on Sunday March 09 2008, @12:06PM (#22693112)
    I'm icon-impaired. Seriously. My mind cannot make the subconscious connection between an icon or graphic and what said graphic is supposed to represent. Over the years, I've forced myself to recognize a floppy disk as "save," and a printer as "print". The rest mean nothing to me. When I use OpenOffice or any other graphic-intensive program, I must either (1) memorize various keyboard shortcuts, or (2) hover over the toolbar icons to find the one I want. For obvious reasons, my editor of choice is one that doesn't require me to decode icons. Nearly every graphical "decode" operation requires conscious thought as well as a process of elimination to narrow down the choices to a set of possibilities from which I will (hopefully) select the correct one. Many times I'm wrong.

    Almost everything I do is on the CLI. I've been programming for nearly two decades, and I have no problems selecting textual tokens out of a field of similar-looking text. But give me a set of small, information-deprived graphics to decode, and I fall flat on my face.

    I can't be alone in this. Surely others have this same cognitive disability.