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Wikileaks Publishes FBI VoIP Surveillance Docs
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CmdrTaco
on Sat Mar 15, 2008 05:40 PM
from the watching-the-watchers dept.
from the watching-the-watchers dept.
An anonymous reader writes "The folks on wikileaks have published a new interesting and shocking report: FBI Electronic Surveillance Needs for Carrier-Grade Voice over Packet (CGVoP) Service.
The 88 paged document, which is part of the CALEA Implementation Plan was published in January 2003 and describes in detail all needs for surveillance of phone calls made via data services like the internet.
Wikileaks has not published any analysis yet, so maybe some of the techies hanging around this end of the internet are interested in taking that one on."
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PGPfone, where are you? (Score:5, Interesting)
Re:PGPfone, where are you? (Score:4, Informative)
It handles encryption using ZRTP [wikipedia.org]/SRTP [wikipedia.org] and can do point-to-point (IP2IP) calls like good'ole Speak Freely.
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Twinkle [twinklephone.com]?
It handles encryption using ZRTP [wikipedia.org]/SRTP [wikipedia.org] and can do point-to-point (IP2IP) calls like good'ole Speak Freely.
If I can't even convince my friends who use Pidgin already, to install PidginEncryption, how am I supposed to get them to use VOIP encryption?
"Well, it won't happen to me..."
Part of me wants to support further government wiretaps so that more abuses come to light and we can hopefully then convince people that privacy is important. But the other part hates it when innocent people are tortured for things they did not do.
So what's the right course of action? I'm starting to wonder if I'm one of the few people
Re:PGPfone, where are you? (Score:5, Informative)
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It's just too late to reclaim/roll-back any privacy. The horses left the barn YEARS ago. 10+ years anyway. I'm not advocating the untenable position of "I've got nothing to hide, so it's okay." This is just standard operating procedure at this point.
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However, IPSec's 3DES-CBC and AES-CBC modes both re-initialize for each datagram, so it can handle encryption on UDP packets without requiring in-order, complete reception or retra
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Encrypted (Score:2, Insightful)
use smartphones.. use encrypted voip to make all the phone calls, and use the regular service provider to make emergency calls like 911
I think this is the way to go..
I know some one will say there are attacks possible on encrypted connections... but the question is that its not feasible to attack every connection out there.. atleast make their job as difficult as possibl
Why is this shocking? (Score:5, Informative)
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I'm inclined to agree. I looked into CALEA a couple of years ago as part of an investigation to see what impacts it might have for universities. Much of the public criticism seemed to assume that it was a way for law enforcement to tap all communications. In fact, it is the exact equivalent of existing wiretaps: they don't get a full feed; they get data for specific authorized interceptions. I admit to some concern about apparent diversion of massive traffic flows. It may be a good idea, but I'd like to see
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Old (Score:5, Informative)
Public Standards (Score:5, Informative)
Those detail exactly WHAT and HOW monitoring is going to occur, on a technical level.
And don't get your knickers in a twist about the FBI document. I've already seen one instance where the FBI told a carrier "we want it done this way" and the carrier's lawyers said "no, that isn't legal and we won't do it". Of course, it was probably a result of the software not being implemented in that manner and it would have cost the carrier mucho $$ to do it the FBI's way...
Nothing like a few $$ to prompt the legal dept. to see it your way.
http://www.google.com/search?q=j-std-025&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&aq=t [google.com]
Words not found in pdf with a quick search (Score:5, Insightful)
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It's routine Big Brother stuff (Score:4, Insightful)
There's not much new here. If you're familiar with CALEA, the law that hooked the Government into the phone system big-time, this is basically the same set of requirements the FBI wanted for voice calls. There was a big disagreement in the voice world over in-band signalling. The question was whether a "pen register" warrant authorized access to signalling data that goes over the voice channel, like Touch-Tone tones sent to some non-carrier device. The FBI was bitching about that for years.
The trouble with all this stuff is that Congress didn't mandate proper auditing. Every surveillance event in CALEA ought to be logged by the Judicial Branch, at the Administrative Office of the U.S. Courts. [uscourts.gov] We don't have that.
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Slashdot looking for "techies"?! (Score:2)
"techies hanging around this end of the internet".
Also the grandparent professes shock when this is already well known.
Can we walk out of preschool please? The subject matter is interesting and important but slashdot needs editors with a college degree.
Why, exactly, is this "shocking?" (Score:2)
That's a serious question. I know, this is Slashdot, the home of foil hats and radial paranoia by broke students...
Re:paradigm shift (Score:5, Insightful)
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Correct me if I'm wrong, but that's pretty much the point when the US that he envisioned more or less got replaced with what you have now.
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Re:paradigm shift (Score:5, Informative)
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I think that one fits too.
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and what advice would that be?
That of the President who launched convert operations against the Barbary pirates?
The President who doubled the size of the U.S. in the Louisiana Purchase? The U.S. would become a continental empire in less than fifty years.
The President who waged economic war against Britain and France? Thomas Jefferson: Foreign Affairs [millercenter.org]
The President who died as the Erie Canal and the Industrial Revolution was putting an end to the agrarian Republic
I call BS (Score:5, Informative)
The capability is needed, but so is proper oversight and protection of Consitutional rights. Then again all you wanted was to squeeze in your Obama ad
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Re:paradigm shift (Score:5, Interesting)
In any society of human individuals greater than one, there will always evolve some system of governance.
It is not a question of whether you will lose any freedom, but of how much you will lose.
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Re:paradigm shift (Score:5, Insightful)
Take the free software movement as an example... the movement isn't ruled by anyone, the society of human individuals (programmers) can license their work any way they like, but they _choose_ to push for freedom on to others.
Those who are free to choose are not ruled.
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don't know what you're talking about (Score:3, Informative)
said by who? Let me guess, he was an "anarchist," by which I mean high school drop out living in his mom's basement, complaining that society would be "so much more awesome" if there weren't any rules, and he didn't have to keep his room clean.
Anarchy:
"Absence of government; a state of lawlessness due to the absence or inefficiency of the supreme power; political disorder."''
Any social endeavor has politics and power relationships
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Take the free software movement as an example... the movement isn't ruled by anyone, the society of human individuals (programmers) can license their work any way they like, but they _choose_ to push for freedom on to others.
Free software is the perfect example of governance. It arises from the grassroots, the workers writing the software, but it is there nevertheless. Take a look at projects like Debian. "Debian
Re:paradigm shift (Score:5, Insightful)
So yes, Obama is a better pick on individual rights than either of the alternatives.
Whether it will be a huge difference, or whether he will remain true to this, noone can be sure. As in life, there are no guarantees in politics.
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To me, that doesn't seem to rational. But hey, a good majority of Americans believe an unseeable, untouchable, and magical being exists so I guess anything is possible.
Re:paradigm shift (Score:5, Informative)
Senator Obama's qualifications Include a J.D. in constitutional law from Harvard, He was a lecturer of constitutional law at the University of Chicago Law School, and he worked as a community organizer and later as a lawyer representing community organizers on voting rights and discrimination issues.
So yeah I think that there is some evidence that he might have a better understanding of and respect for the constitution of the United States of America.
this can be confirmed with a simple wikipedia [wikipedia.org] search or set of google searches (or by reading his first book, Dreams from My Father).
Just because something is not yet proven does not mean that no evidence exists.
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I repeat. Obama has _done_ nothing to _show_ he is any different from anyone else on the stage. He has been in office enough that his record should be known by now if he did.
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The other two options are clearly not in my best interest.
Obama has done enough in life to make it clear that he's a competent person who doesn't necessarily want to turn the country into a theocracy or a fascist state. That's pretty much all I'm looking for this election year.
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But that does or says nothing for civil rights. It is more or less a He is qualified because he isn't "them" which is the same as blind faith. He has not done anything to demonstrate that once in office, he would do anything any different.
And if you seriously think any of the candidates w
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Re:paradigm shift (Score:5, Insightful)
Surveillance of public servants and surveillance of the general populace aren't even remotely similar.
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MOD PARENT INSIGHTFUL (Score:2)
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You would rather have police locked in a room with someone and walk out with a supposedly signed confession disposition when a videotape would have proved it forged? Say what you want about "serve and protect", there are good cops, but it's the bad cops that ruin things for the rest of us.
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Re:paradigm shift (Score:4, Interesting)
If you think Ackbar Hussein Osama is going to be any bigger on individual rights than Grandpa and the Bitch, then you are sadly mistaken.
It's interesting that you should refer to "Barack" as "Ackbar." Admiral Ackbar was an accomplished leader of the Rebel Alliance, which was the "good" side in the Star Wars universe. He spent much of his career fighting the (evil) Galactic Empire.
It's telling that you should be using the name in a derogatory way.
In any case, I'm not the biggest expert in Star Wars, unlike some here, but evidently at some point Ackbar was wrongly accused of treason by a politically-motivated opponent. We'll have to watch Fox News over the next several months to find out how much life imitates art.
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Re:Congratulations... (Score:5, Insightful)
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"Privacy" as discussed here is about protecting privacy from the government, to whom we pay taxes and who might imprison us, prosecute us, or target us for our beliefs, words, or affiliations. Privacy from the general public is a different issue. Please argue that issue elsewhere as it confuses (and is probably intentionally meant to confuse) the real issue of privacy with regards to the government. If you still don't understand, I'll repeat it in bold face: "Privacy" as discussed here is about protecting p