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Firefox Goes for World Download Record

Posted by samzenpus on Thu May 29, 2008 06:59 AM
from the record-for-the-lamest-marketing-campaign dept.
Kelson writes "For the upcoming release of Firefox, Mozilla is preparing Download Day 2008: a campaign to set a world record for the most software downloaded in 24 hours. Participants are asked to pledge to download Firefox 3 on the day that it's launched. The exact date hasn't been scheduled yet, but everything seems on track for June."
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An anonymous reader writes "Using data generated by the Mozilla Firefox download pledge page, the map on this blog post ranks countries, not by absolute number of pledges made, but rather on a per capita basis. This analysis yields some interesting conclusions about where open source is strongest and weakest." Anonymous Warthog writes "That didn't take long. In a blog posting from the TippingPoint DVLabs security team (of Kraken and CanSecWest hacking contest fame), they confirmed that they reported a vulnerability in Firefox 3.0 to Mozilla a mere five hours after it was released. Additionally, there was a posting on the Full Disclosure security mailing list from someone that purports to have another vulnerability in the works as well. In the grand scheme of things, this probably means nothing to the general security of Firefox, but you can be sure the browser zealots on all sides will be watching carefully." Finally, from reader Toreo asesino: "Microsoft have congratulated the Mozilla team by sending them their second cake (minus recipe) to Mozilla's Mountain View headquarters to congratulate them on shipping FireFox 3, which went live right on time last night." Congratulations are indeed due on both the browser and the release process — looks like the Firefox fever (despite some seriously taxed servers) resulted in more than 8 million downloads in 24 hours.
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  • by Apatharch (796324) on Thursday May 29 2008, @07:02AM (#23584415)
    Are they trying to kill their own servers or what?
  • Patch Tuesday (Score:5, Interesting)

    by pjt33 (739471) on Thursday May 29 2008, @07:04AM (#23584439)
    What's the current record? I'd expect MS service packs to set a pretty high bar. Also, how are they counting? If Debian get Firefox 3 through into testing on the day (which I doubt), would an install via aptitude count, or are they only counting direct downloads from Mozilla?
  • So guys... (Score:5, Funny)

    by thedrx (1139811) on Thursday May 29 2008, @07:09AM (#23584457)
    Get your botnets ready :)
  • by Rogerborg (306625) on Thursday May 29 2008, @07:10AM (#23584471) Homepage

    Since presumably my Firefox 2 will bug me to update to 3 as soon as it's released?

    Not to disparage Mozilla, but lately it seems like they've been a mite too concerned with press releases. They should release when it's ready, and we'll get it when we think it's ready. What's the big rush?

    • Press = good (Score:5, Insightful)

      by Nerdposeur (910128) on Thursday May 29 2008, @07:57AM (#23584947) Journal

      Not to disparage Mozilla, but lately it seems like they've been a mite too concerned with press releases.

      I think this is a cool idea. There are still lots of people who don't know there are other browsers in existence; when they open IE they say they're opening "the internet." Anything that makes the news and makes them aware of alternate browsers is good - especially if it's "hey this thing is really popular." For many people, that's the best argument for trying it.

      Mozilla seems to have done pretty well by harnessing the power of fanatic users so far - remember the big newspaper ads? And check out the "pledge map" on the site. Think how proud you'd be to see that you're one of a very few people in your country who has pledged to download it. Kind of a mix of national pride and geek pride.

      Every web developer's dream is a world where all users have more standards-compliant browsers, and IE is forced to follow suit. I say hooray for almost anything that makes that closer to reality.
    • Re: (Score:3, Insightful)

      Not to disparage Mozilla, but lately it seems like they've been a mite too concerned with press releases. They should release when it's ready, and we'll get it when we think it's ready. What's the big rush?

      Press releases, viral marketing, and publicity stunts like this are a big reason why worldwide Firefox market share is somewhere in the 30% range. Yeah, you've gotta have a solid product to begin with, but more open source projects would do well to emulate Mozilla's marketing and branding accomplishments.

      Also, your post implies that Firefox will somehow be rushed out the door before it's ready, but if you've been following along you know that's very far from correct. Even the "download pledge"

      • Re: (Score:3, Informative)

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        1) obsolete: believe
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  • by Anonymous Coward on Thursday May 29 2008, @07:11AM (#23584481)
    because many popular plugins are not 3.0 ready :-(
    • I would say that's untrue at this point. del.icio.us released their updated version, Web Developer, noscript, adblock and firebug is on FF3. In fact, I'd say most popular plugins have made the move.
      • by at_slashdot (674436) on Thursday May 29 2008, @07:32AM (#23584679)
        Who cares about "popular" plugins, the point is that the plugins that _I_ need don't work. For example Google Sync.
        • Re: (Score:3, Informative)

          Then use the Nightly Tester Tool plugin to force it to work. Plugins will only work natively in Firefox 3 if the developer specifically typed that version in. I'm running Firefox RC1 at the moment and every plugin I need, large and small, works. Not all out of the box, but with Nightly Tester Tools, I can enable them and force them to work. As long as they're not dependent on an API that changed, which could be likely depending on the plugin, they will work.
    • Re: (Score:3, Informative)

      Most plugins do work in 3.0. You just have to disable version checking in FF.
  • big deal. (Score:3, Informative)

    by Anonymous Coward on Thursday May 29 2008, @07:14AM (#23584511)
    ... these are the same idiots that thought that a beta of windows vista was the single largest software download: http://labnol.blogspot.com/2006/06/windows-vista-for-guinness-world.html [blogspot.com]

    show of hands: who downloaded a linux dvd iso larger than 3.5 gigabytes before vista beta was released? ... and apparently there is no "world record" to break anyway: http://blog.internetnews.com/skerner/2008/05/mozillas-latest-firefox-launch.html [internetnews.com]

    and, are they not going to consider the millions of copies of, say, internet explorer 7, downloaded the first day it was forced through as an automatic update? or how many downloads of itunes are there in a day when apple _requires_ an update?
  • Yeah! (Score:5, Funny)

    by SpanishInquisition0 (1297663) on Thursday May 29 2008, @07:17AM (#23584533)
    Go for the record Mozilla! If you get it, you might even get a place right next to the Most Marshmallows Stuffed Into A Person's Mouth record!
  • by Jumperalex (185007) on Thursday May 29 2008, @07:25AM (#23584605)
    The important one is how fast we can /. the web site :)
  • by artifex2004 (766107) on Thursday May 29 2008, @07:25AM (#23584607) Journal
    I'm not getting the release until I know for sure it won't crash hard on my Macs, like the beta I tried did. And that it won't delete my cookies, like the beta did.

    I'd really like to see continued support for the old style of searching in the url bar, too, but I doubt that will happen. And the new look is just uglier.
    • by Rurik (113882) on Thursday May 29 2008, @08:47AM (#23585513)
      You know, that's why they have a "release candidate", which is now available. The betas are over and done with. And, I hope, as a beta user that you submitted your issues for them to be addressed and resolved.

      So... instead of wondering if it will crash, why not find out?
  • by sakdoctor (1087155) on Thursday May 29 2008, @07:33AM (#23584691)
    Look, all 18 computer uses have pledged.
      • Re: (Score:3, Informative)

        Yeah, it's amazing how Mark Shuttleworth made billions in IT and started the most popular Linux distribution without even having a computer.
  • by poeidon1 (767457) on Thursday May 29 2008, @07:38AM (#23584751) Homepage
    will be counted most probably. I dont know of many linux users who download directly from mozilla website. Most would use a package from their distribution which generally is not available on the same day (and even if it is, how will they count those downloads).
  • by Sturdy (1297351) on Thursday May 29 2008, @07:41AM (#23584777)

    If they set a record - they'll be in the news.

    If they are so successful that the servers go down temporarily - they'll definitely be in the news.

    As you can see, just submitting the idea has put them in the news. This is a great idea for a company with growing market share.

  • by BForrester (946915) on Thursday May 29 2008, @07:51AM (#23584889)
    I'm marking "Download Day" on my calendar right now.

    I have a big circle around 2008, and a thin one around 2009 too, just in case the news gets any more vague.
    • by anboni (1000474) on Thursday May 29 2008, @07:19AM (#23584557)
      You clearly haven't worked with Fx3 yet. At first I was skeptical about the new smart bookmarks and address bar, but now that I've used it for a month or two (starting with beta 2) I'm quite pleased with it. The address bar basically does exactly the same as it always has, except now it actually does an on the fly substring search in your history instead of just giving an arbitrarily sorted list of previously visited sites. I would dare say this is one of the biggest improvements to the web browsing experience in the last several years.
      • by netsharc (195805) on Thursday May 29 2008, @07:35AM (#23584725)
        And something Opera [opera.com] invented first! (Among other things like tabbed browsing, mouse gestures in a browser, a zoom feature that also resizes images, etc, etc.). And Opera 9.50 even searches the contents of pages you have visited for more WIN.
          • Re: (Score:3, Insightful)

            by Anonymous Coward
            ya, and by the same logic, if firefox is so damn good, why does the IE has 75% marketshare.

            captcha: divisive
          • Opera publicity? (Score:5, Insightful)

            by Nerdposeur (910128) on Thursday May 29 2008, @08:12AM (#23585119) Journal

            If Opera has so many great features so far ahead of everyone else, why is its usage still somewhere around 1% on a good day? If Opera can figure that out, maybe they'd get somewhere.

            Maybe they need more silly publicity stunts like this one.

                • by Laebshade (643478) <laebshade@gmail.com> on Thursday May 29 2008, @08:15PM (#23594837)
                  #3 isn't wrong. It doesn't have an addon/extension system. Built-in customization features do not count. Opera has no where near the extensibility of Firefox.

                  Don't get me wrong, I like Opera. I use it at work because it has the most compatibility with the websites I have to use without being IE. It's very fast and has a small footprint, CPU and memory-wise, but I just can't use it for my everyday surfing, simply because it lacks the ability to extend/support addons. The main addon I can't live without is adblock plus. Yes, I know Opera can do ad blocking, but who wants to add them by editing a file? And don't forget, adblock plus has pre-defined adblock list sources, so you don't even have to build your own just to get a decent amount of ads blocked; the list does it automatically.

                  Living without something like Adblock Plus is a deal breaker when using a browser.
      • Re: (Score:3, Interesting)

        A not only history, it also searches your bookmarks, which is something that I've always wondered why it wasn't implemented before.

        Now you don't have to navigate your deep bookmark folders for that link, just start typing the name and it appears directly under your cursor.
              • Re: (Score:3, Informative)

                You know, I've actually made up this shit. Whoever even looked at about:config, saw that there is no such key. And even when you add it, it doesn't work.

                The person who modded me informative... Has done something stupid. It only shows how stupid people are to not think for themselves... Tell them something that sounds remotely reasonable, something that they might agree with, and they'll believe, they'll follow.

                Right. Into. A. Trap.

                (I know I'm risking getting modded down to the hell. But who cares. Even only
      • Re: (Score:3, Insightful)

        Actually, I've been using Fx3 since beta1. I still am not really keen on the thing. Unless I make sure to keep my bookmarks and history trimmed down, it freezes my system for a few seconds as it trudges through things. This is irritating, especially when I was just wanting to type in an address real quick and not have possible matches pulled up. It consumes more time in searching for possible results than it saves me in typing.

        Some way of reverting to the old functionality would be nice.
      • Re: (Score:3, Insightful)

        This might sound dumb, but I wish the new address bar would go away. My laptop gets passed around the house, and I don't want my browsing history pop up to all my family members.

        They don't care, so they're not snooping around (I don't live with them normally, there was a death in the family so I've come back home for a bit) but they don't appreciate my youporn stuff popping up in their face because of that silly autocomplete stuff. How can I got back to the old way?
    • by Fallus Shempus (793462) on Thursday May 29 2008, @07:22AM (#23584585) Homepage
      Weird, I have the release candidate, you know you can still actually use as a location bar and ignore the search, it still drops down and give suggestions of previously typed in URLs

      Don't see the problem
    • Re:Why should we? (Score:4, Interesting)

      by Kattspya (994189) on Thursday May 29 2008, @08:38AM (#23585423)
      That's the most brilliant thing I've seen in it so far (I've used the portable beta 3 for about an hour). When the password prompt isn't a window you can make sure the pasword is correct before storing it.