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A Look At the Workings of Google's Data Centers
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Doofus brings us a CNet story about a discussion from Google's Jeff Dean spotlighting some of the inner workings of the search giant's massive data centers. Quoting:
"'Our view is it's better to have twice as much hardware that's not as reliable than half as much that's more reliable,' Dean said. 'You have to provide reliability on a software level. If you're running 10,000 machines, something is going to die every day.' Bringing a new cluster online shows just how fallible hardware is, Dean said. In each cluster's first year, it's typical that 1,000 individual machine failures will occur; thousands of hard drive failures will occur; one power distribution unit will fail, bringing down 500 to 1,000 machines for about 6 hours; 20 racks will fail, each time causing 40 to 80 machines to vanish from the network; 5 racks will "go wonky," with half their network packets missing in action; and the cluster will have to be rewired once, affecting 5 percent of the machines at any given moment over a 2-day span, Dean said. And there's about a 50 percent chance that the cluster will overheat, taking down most of the servers in less than 5 minutes and taking 1 to 2 days to recover."
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And the Network That Connects These Clusters? (Score:5, Insightful)
I understand distributed computing and I understand distributed searching. But the fact of the matter is that at some point at the top of the chain, you're usually transferring very large amounts of data--no matter how tall your 'network pyramid' is. The coding itself is no simple feat but I have heard rumors [gigaom.com] that Google was building their own 10-Gigabit ethernet switches since they couldn't find any on the market. You'll notice a lot of sites are just speculating [nyquistcapital.com] but it certainly is a nontrivial problem to network clusters of thousands of computers with more than 200,000 in the whole lot and not require some serious switch/hub/networking hardware to back it.
Re:And the Network That Connects These Clusters? (Score:5, Insightful)
I'll bet they don't mess with tcp/ip - that's way too slow and bulky. Think Infiniband or some other switched fabric instead of heirarchical.
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Also, their search algo is based on eigen values I think, a very very profitable algo to parallelize
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Google has a two vendor policy, I know some of their network gear for gig-e and 10G-e is Force10. Google and Force10 are both involved in the 802.3ba (40G and 100G), Force10 is on the IEEE committee and Google is one of the customers with demand, they may have a seat on the committee I don't really know all the members.
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1) TCP/IP isn't really slow and bulky. It's one of the best protocols ever designed. With only minimal enhancements to the original protocol as designed, a modern host can achieve nearly line speed 10Gbit with pretty minimal CPU. We can push 900+Mbyte/sec from a single host. If you need more bandwidth, then do channel bonding.
2) Infiniband? That costs at least $250-500 per node plus more for switches. Google is not going spend that kind of money for the limited benefits
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My guess is that they use something else for internal communication. You can always recover from errors at the application level instead of forcing every packet to be confirmed.
TCP is great for general communication over the Internet and not so great for specialized cases where performance is important, like at Google.
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Hard drive failures (Score:2, Interesting)
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I would imagine that Google wouldnt adopt SSDs until they were financially viable, which probably wont be too long, they will be about the same price per GB as HDDs, and eventually cheaper, making for greater profit for aslong as HDD's are being sold (200 GB HDD costs $50, 6 months later 200GB HDD costs $10, etc)
Then, if SSDs are more reliable and the same price, thats also less expense.
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Less than you might think from the summary, reading further down the article you find "The company has a small number of server configurations, some with a lot of hard drives and some with few".
Overheating and rewiring? (Score:4, Interesting)
Re:Overheating and rewiring? (Score:4, Funny)
Each machine has smoke detector installed right on top of it. The Maintenance director is standing at the gate of data center with pistol in his both hands. As soon as alarm is heard, a batch of maintenance engineers rush towards the faulty machine with keyboard, harddisc, mouse, motherboard and other components. The faulty components of machine are replaced on the rhythm of drumbeats they have been rehearsed through 1000's of times. The crew has to rewire the machine, reboot, and be back at the gate with burnt machine in less than 5 minutes or they are shot dead.
The trouble is, because of this time limit, the maintenance engineers simply pull machine out of rack without disconnecting any wires. And that's why rewiring is needed.
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This also allows for future throughput improvements from a single unit, and probably would cost less than the two days' downtime every overheat (racks are relatively cheap, time isn't).
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From what I read, Google uses simple desktop computers.
These machines have been designed to sit idle 99.9% of the time and they have been designed with that in mind. If you ramp up the load on such a machine, things start to get real noisy real quick. If you keep them at such a high load for a long time, they simply break. (IBM Netvista comes to mind...)
Trouble is, buying machines designed with such a load in mind costs twice as much and the f
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I had this problem at the University where I worked a while ago. We rolled in a nice new SGI Altix machine. We had enough power, but the cooling system couldn't move enough cubic feet of air into the one part of the room where the box was. As soon as you reach capacity, temps skyrocket.
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Right. But when was the last time you were unable to pull up Google's search page? At the end of the day, that's all that matters.
BTW, I'd bet good money that a "broadcast engineering truck" costs 25X what google pays per CPU cycle.
It's the same everywhere, regardless of scale (Score:4, Interesting)
And they failed. And then they failed again. And again. Sometimes completely, but usually just a single port, or just "a bit" - it looked as if the switch was working, but every - or every n-th, or every bigger than x - packet got mangled, misdirected or whatever. Or sometimes packets appeared just out of the blue (probably some partial leftovers from the cache) and a few of them made enough sense to be received and reported. Sometimes a switch with no network cables attached to it started blinking its lights - sometimes on two ports, sometimes just on a single one.
Well, I could go on for hours, but you get the idea. What happens at Google happens everywhere, they just have some nice numbers.
Regardless, the article is quite entertaining to read for a networking geek
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Re:It's the same everywhere, regardless of scale (Score:4, Funny)
Sounds like you have dust in your cables. I would recommend you clean the inside of your cables with compressed air so the bits don't get stuck on the lint and other stuff in there. The bits travel very fast, so even small dust particles can be a problem.
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Re:It's the same everywhere, regardless of scale (Score:4, Informative)
And that's why. If you're using "smart hubs" or "dumb switches" (aka, your $99 Linksys switch), then you're probably not going to have issues. All it does is store MAC tables and forwards data to the appropriate ports. You probably also don't have multiple other network switches/hubs/routers hanging off of those devices somewhere downstream, and if you do then it's very likely that you know what and where they are and can plan for them.
On the other hand, trying to manage an enterprise-class switch with advanced features can be a little more complicated, especially when you start allowing anybody to plug any other kind of network devices into the switch. You can easily end up with spanning tree loops, issues with frame sizing, cross-brand autonegotiation failures, and who knows what else. And that's before you even have to start worrying about bugs in various firmware revisions or some enterprising "hax0r d00dz" who passed Comp Sci 101 trying to do things that he shouldn't be doing, and spoofing addresses to try to cover his tracks.
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Re:It's the same everywhere, regardless of scale (Score:4, Informative)
1. You've been fantastically lucky.
2. You've not been in IT terribly long.
3. Your job doesn't involve network management and so your experience of what switches can do when they have a mind to is limited.
Solid-state simple dumb switches can and do fail, as can managed ones. If you're lucky, they fail in a fairly obvious fashion (eg. they just stop pushing packets on some or all ports).
If you're unlucky, they start spewing corrupt frames everywhere confusing the hell out of everything else on the network and you have to figure out exactly which switch is doing this and get rid of it.
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Software architecture, Not hardware (Score:3, Interesting)
Hardware is cheap (Score:4, Interesting)
quad-core xeon @2.66ghz
4gb RAM
2 x 500gig barracudas (RAID1)
dual gigabit ether
CentOS 5.1
US$1100 per unit
They are all stashed behind a Foundry ServerIron to load balance the cluster. So far, it seems to scale VERY well and increasing capacity is as simple as tossing another US$1k server on the pile.
Cheers,
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How do they KNOW what to fix (Score:2)
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Just goes to prove (Score:2)
We are ants. (Score:2)
Then.. we realize that our own lifespans and lives are as prone to failure as the servers in their datacenters. Our lifespans are short and everyone has problems.. So Google has mastered the ability to make us interchangeable.
WE ARE ANTS!
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It's not like typicall datacenter where cluster X is for ESX Server, Y is for the financial system, z is Win 2k3, and Q is AIX. Every unit in a Google rack is just another piece of typical hardware running the same OS, the same software, and configured the same way. I suspect there may be some sort of 'controller node' for some number of worker machines, but even then, each controller node is just like another controller node.
Each machin
Jeff Dean is the smartest guy I've ever met (Score:3, Interesting)
Re:Failure tolerance vs. failure prevention (Score:4, Insightful)
Unless of course you are talking about P2's and ISA's, and its not a matter of "reliability" I dont think, it could easily be argued that a $200 [component] is just as reliable as a $500 [component] I think mostly what they are doing, is buying 3 of something cheaper, instead of one of something greater.
Component A:cheaper, less cutting edge (generally more reliable)
Component B: Has 3 times the power, 3 times the load, costs 3 times as much.
If a single component A fails, there is still 2 running (depending on the component) and thus a 33% loss in performance, a third the of total cost to replace (making it like a 6th of the costs compaired to component B)
If component B fails, 100% loss, complete downtime, 100% expense. (relatively)
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Re:Failure tolerance vs. failure prevention (Score:5, Interesting)
You can easily run a dozen large VMs on one of those with room to spare (assuming some of them have 2GB or 3GB of RAM allocated to them). If you limit it to ten per box, that's twenty VMs, and you can migrate servers between them or fail them over in case of a fault. Those DL380's (if you have dynamic power savings turned on) can average under 400 watts of power draw each - so 40 watts per server. In our environment, we've got 5 hosts running a ton of VMs, some of which don't have to fail over (layer 4-7 switch, also a VM), so we're getting closer to 25 or 30 watts per VM. We'd have the SAN array anyway for our primary data storage, so that wasn't much of an extra. We're using fewer data center network ports, and few fibre channel ports. We've actually been able to triple the number of "servers" we're running while actually bringing energy use down as we've retired more older servers and replaced them with VMs. And it's been a net increase in fault tolerance as well.
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One z10 complex with 64 CPU's, 1.5 TB of memory, can support thousands of Linux instances all communicating with each other using hypersocket technology. Hypersockets uses microcode to enable communications between environments without going to the actual network.
A z10 processor complex is as
Re:Failure tolerance vs. failure prevention (Score:5, Insightful)
From what it looks like they're doing exactly what I do for myself; skip the extraneous crap and simply rack motherboards as they are.
In that case we're not talking 3 of something cheaper; you could probably get up towards 5-10 of something cheaper. Then consider that best price/performance is not generally what is bought, and the difference is even wider.
Of course, it's not going to happen in the average corporation, where most involved parties prefer covering their ass by buying conventional branded products. Point out to your average corporate purchaser or technical director that you could reduce CPU cycle costs to 1/25 th, and that you could provide storage at 1/100th of the current per gigabyte cost and they'll whine 'but we're an _enterprise_, we cant buy consumer grade stuff or build it ourselves'.
Ten years ago people brought obsolete junk from work home to play with. These days I'm considering bringing obsolete stuff from home to work because the stuff I throw out is often better than low-prioritized things at work.
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Re:Failure tolerance vs. failure prevention (Score:5, Insightful)
Hardware will fail - it's up to the intelligence of the overlaid systems to mitigate that.
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That's not to say it's impossible, IBM, HP, any of the "big iron" companies can offer you damn near 100% uptime without major changes to your software.
But be prepared to pull out the checkbook. You know, the REALLY BIG one that is only suitable for writing lots of zeroes and grand prize giveaways.
Re:Failure tolerance vs. failure prevention (Score:5, Funny)
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Re:Failure tolerance vs. failure prevention (Score:5, Funny)
Don't worry, your secret is safe with us.
Real Slashdotters not only fail to read TFAs, but they also completely miss any and all relevant information in other people's posts.
Therefore, someone may hook on your claim that Google is not skimping on hardware and try to argue that they, in fact, do. Your admission to having read TFA will go completely unnoticed.
And before you ask yourself how come I noticed it: I didn't.
And besides, I'm new here.
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Re:Failure tolerance vs. failure prevention (Score:5, Insightful)
With server farms the size of Google's, failures are going to occur daily regardless of how "fault-tolerant" your hardware is. Nothing is 100% failure free. Given that failures will occur, you need fault tolerance in your software, and if your software is fault tolerant, then why waste money on overpriced "fault-tolerant" hardware? If you can buy N cheapo servers for the price of 1 hardened one, then you'll typically have N times the CPU power available, and the software makes them both look as reliable.
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Re:Failure tolerance vs. failure prevention (Score:5, Interesting)
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Re:Traffic Patterns for Google (Score:5, Insightful)
And even if you think of Google as a whole, it is significantly more popular in Europe and the US than it is in Asia, so you would still have uneven traffic rates.
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