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Georgia's New State Health Plan Is Google

Posted by kdawson on Sun Jun 22, 2008 03:51 PM
from the step-away-from-the-computer-screen dept.
theodp writes "In yet another case of life imitating Dilbert, the State of Georgia has issued a press release touting how helpful Google products will be in getting Georgians to go outdoors. According to the release and a follow-up Yo-State-So-Fat Official Google Blog post, this includes AdWords, Analytics, Maps, Earth, Picasa, Gadgets and a branded YouTube channel for the GO Georgia initiative 'We're thrilled that Google has joined us in the effort to help everyone in the state lead a healthier life,' said Sally Winchester, a manager for Georgia State Parks & Historic Sites. 'At Google, we are committed to helping our employees lead healthy lives,' added Maureen Schumacher, a Google regional sales director. 'We are very excited that Google products will be used as part of this effort to improve the health and well-being of all Georgians.'"
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  • Misleading Much? (Score:5, Interesting)

    by conner_bw (120497) on Sunday June 22 2008, @03:51PM (#23897189) Homepage Journal

    Looks a lot less like a health plan, a lot more like a powerful promotional partner for Georgia's Parks, Recreations and Historic Sites i.e. tourism?

    Or is FOX TV a "health plan" because they run Viagra advertisements?

    On second thought it has Google in the title and it's Sunday so it must be a debacle! Unleash the Flash rectangles! The captain goes down with the PageRank!

  • I don't know about you but my guess is that Georgia's too busy sitting on their front porches proclaiming that people "git off ma property befo' I shoot yo ___".
    • Is this a variation on 'Naw you kiahds git off ma lawn!"?

      • Re: (Score:2, Insightful)

        I am from GA (not originally )and this got me laughing pretty hard! That's how it is in very rural areas[South Carolina is much worse IMO], people are very friendly just really "country" Savannah is kind of half redneck half random people that moved here and country club like art college kids.I wouldn't say in this town there are more fattie's than Pittsburgh, Cleavland, Houston, Buffalo, Illinois, Detroit ([places I lived) or other "blue collar" type cities. When you go out into more rural reads yes, but
    • by Seoulstriker (748895) on Sunday June 22 2008, @04:39PM (#23897485)
      Georgia is in the "Stroke Belt", with high rates of obesity (soul food), diabetes (sweet tea), and heart disease. The citizens of Georgia really need all the help they can get to decrease long-term health costs.
      • by halivar (535827) <bfelger&gmail,com> on Sunday June 22 2008, @05:29PM (#23897775) Homepage

        You will pry my Georgia sweet tea (kept ice cold so it can be super-saturated with sugar) from my cold, dead fin-- *urk* *THUD*

        • by chillax137 (612431) on Sunday June 22 2008, @06:00PM (#23897951) Homepage
          In order to super-saturate the tea, it must first be mixed at a higher temperature (where the equilibrium concentration of sugar is higher). Cooling it down brings the mixture out of equilibrium, but no precipitation occurs, resulting in a kinetically controlled metastable state (super-saturation). Allowing the tea to warm up won't change the sweetness level.
          • by Anonymous Coward on Sunday June 22 2008, @07:15PM (#23898483)

            Unless of course something we're to disturb to tea sufficiently or a suitable condensation nuclei we're introduced causing the sugar to come out of solution, in which case the only suitable solution is to reheat the tea.


            Posting anonymously so I can still mod you up

          • Wow, I never expected to be taken seriously, but you know... you are supposed to put the sugar in while it's still piping hot. There have been occasions where a particular sweet tea I like to call "Hepzibah Tea" (named after the podunk Augusta satellite town it comes from) leaves the container coated in rock candy when you take it out of the fridge. That is the good stuff you can't get up north.

        • by Thaelon (250687) on Sunday June 22 2008, @08:13PM (#23898839)

          Actually you can only super saturate water with dissolved solids such as sugar at high temperatures. It's gases that dissolve better at low temperatures.

          So you're not only fat, but a dirty, dirty liar!

      • by Tmack (593755) on Sunday June 22 2008, @06:50PM (#23898303) Homepage Journal

        ...high rates of obesity (soul food), diabetes (sweet tea), and heart disease....

        Having just moved from there, to the Bay Area, Ca....
        Yes, Ga is unhealthy. Alot of the blame can also be put on the government of the state, which continues to push for more and wider highways (as if 16 lanes [google.com] isnt enough), continue to allow and support [southernstudies.org] the majority of power plants [georgiapower.com] running on fossil fuels, mainly coal and including 3 of the dirtiest [georgiapower.com] in the US, with two in the top 3 of that list. This, combined with naturally high humidity [answers.com], ultra high pollen counts and high temperatures makes the air quality suck, putting Atlanta in 4th [aafa.org] for most challenging place to live with asthma and consistently in the Top Ten [usatoday.com] smoggiest cities. This keeps people inside. Going anywhere basically means driving there as sprawl [esri.com] and the resulting proliferation of more roads without increased mass transit or even bike lanes(again, gvmt sponsored), reckless drivers in large vehicles thanks to (previously, and relatively) cheap gas and the whole "southern/redneck" bit that leans towards F250s with 12"lift on mud tires, and the horrid air make it difficult to impossible to walk or bike anywhere (outside of Down/Mid Town Atl) for fear of your life. So people tend to sit on their fat asses in their offices all day and eat at one of about 20 McDonads [google.com] or Waffle Houses [google.com] in the 2mi radius of their home (after driving there of course)... not that I miss having a 24h eatery nearby (I miss my WaHo and Marietta Diner!). Add to all that that NASCAR is a "Sport" in Ga, and as such, "exercising" consists of sitting in bleachers (or on the sofa), smoking, drinking budweiser and eating chilli cheese dogs while watching cars go in circles.

        Alot of this could be fixed by improving mass-transit, curbing Sprawl (which is what really caused the drought) and improving Atlanta's Bikability [atlantabike2.org]. Generally getting people out of their cars and walking or biking places. MARTA's subway line only goes to about 3 useful places [itsmarta.com]: the airport, downtown, and perimeter mall, while a majority of people live in Cobb County, which rejected having anything to do with a Marta rail line (think: "It will bring in the colored people to steal our TV's!").

        Ga is way behind in most rankings of things as well: the Gov'ner has repeatedly struck down [potsdam.edu] attempts to allow Sunday sales of any alcoholic beverage (outside of a restaurant), the most recent time saying it would teach "better time management," thus keeping Georgia one of 3 states still having such arcane blue laws. The state is kept in the past though laws like this, as well as the control the churches [guardian.co.uk] have over it and its citizens, which al

        • Re: (Score:3, Informative)

          MARTA's subway line only goes to about 3 useful places [itsmarta.com]: the airport, downtown, and perimeter mall, while a majority of people live in Cobb County, which rejected having anything to do with a Marta rail line (think: "It will bring in the colored people to steal our TV's!").

          Racism was only a tiny part of the issue. Money for example was much larger. The real reason Cobb rejected MARTA was lingring bitterness over Atlanta killing the trolley lines back in the 1950s. When MARTA was first pro

          • by 0xdeadbeef (28836) on Sunday June 22 2008, @08:06PM (#23898797) Homepage Journal

            Oh, please. Gwinnett rejected it too, and "crime" was the primary excuse. Because, you know, criminals would commute from Atlanta and haul their phat booty back on the trains. It had nothing to do with the race of those most likely to need rail service into the city. Oh no, not that at all.

            The delicious irony of it all is that Gwinnett is now the most ethnically diverse region of the state due to immigration, and had to start funding its own bus service just like Cobb.

            • I moved to the Indian Trail area in 1998. It was booming.

              A year or so ago we were in the area and decided to drive around the area, including Gwinett Place Mall up on Pleasant Hill.

              The whole area, particularly the area east of I-85 on Jimmy Carter is a disaster. The mall was desolate. The whole area just looks run down.

              If this is what having an ethnically diverse region does for your community it's no wonder they resisted mass transit to speed its coming.

              I have friends on the Norcross Police force. They

            • by digitalgiblet (530309) on Monday June 23 2008, @07:15AM (#23901809) Homepage Journal

              The delicious irony of it all is that Gwinnett is now the most ethnically diverse region of the state due to immigration...

              This is one of my favorite things about Gwinnett. I have friends on my street from Nigeria, Liberia, China, Mexico, Korea and India (and there are only about 20 houses on our street). We have a very close knit neighborhood and my kids get play with kids with very diverse backgrounds.

              I work in the city of Atlanta and we hear a lot about "diversity". Their definition of "diversity" is African Americans working with Caucasian Americans. Pretty narrow view of diversity in my book...

        • Yeah, Atlanta is a minority-majority city. Being from the Bay Area, you've probably never lived around so many black people in your life. You can go ahead and say that you just plain don't care for black people, intstead of veiling your criticisms in terms of "arcane blue laws", (which are not arcane at all, they are very easily understood). But feel free to keep practicing your bigotry against whites, that is perfectly socially acceptable.
  • by Anonymous Coward on Sunday June 22 2008, @03:57PM (#23897231)

    Let's just say Steps 3 from 5 involve Google buying Georgia, rebranding the state Googlia (still GA), and eventually enslaving.... err.. emoploying the populace to work for the Google AI. Remember, the AI needs healthy people to carry out its will.

    • Remember, the AI needs healthy people to carry out its will.
      Nonsense, they have androids to do that.
    • Re: (Score:3, Insightful)

      enslaving... err... employing the populace to work for the Google AI

      Hey, as long as we get free food from the company cafeteria and Fridays to work on our own pet projects, I (as a Georgia resident) am all for it!

  • Wow, that summary reads like a dream of Ballmer's, except with Google instead of Microsoft being the indispensable tech partner.

    I guess there's nothing to worry about, because Google is good, right?

  • cutting corners (Score:4, Insightful)

    by icepick72 (834363) on Sunday June 22 2008, @04:16PM (#23897369)
    Sounds like Georgia wants some free hosting and free tools and will only have to pay a web integration salary instead of a developer ... why the hell not?
  • Cut the BS (Score:5, Interesting)

    by Anonymous Coward on Sunday June 22 2008, @04:39PM (#23897489)
    I wish they'd just drop the bullshit and come out and say "You want to turn into a lazy fatass and die an early death, that's your problem. Just don't pretend like it was anyone else's fault and don't burden the taxpayers with your poor decision-making and we're cool." I'd have much more respect for our esteemed leaders if they were honest about it.
    • I wish they'd just drop the bullshit and come out and say "You want to turn into a lazy fatass and die an early death, that's your problem. Just don't pretend like it was anyone else's fault and don't burden the taxpayers with your poor decision-making and we're cool." I'd have much more respect for our esteemed leaders if they were honest about it.

      They abandoned this path when they awarded that lady a multi-million dollar settlement because her fat (explative deleted) wouldn't fit in an airline seat.

  • We are Borg. You will be assimilated. Resistance is futile.
  • by beefubermensch (575927) on Sunday June 22 2008, @04:50PM (#23897557) Homepage

    ...Google has been one of the single biggest things keeping me INdoors

    -Carl

  • 1: Partner with Google

    2: ?

    3: Health and profit

  • Kind of neat but... (Score:5, Interesting)

    by dyslexicbunny (940925) on Sunday June 22 2008, @04:59PM (#23897607)
    So I checked out their website http://www.getoutdoorsgeorgia.org/ [getoutdoorsgeorgia.org] and overall I'm pretty impressed with the idea. I think this is a good thing. If state park information is located in one place, perhaps more people might take advantage of the facilities.

    Looking at the disc golf section though, I'm kind of disappointed that the only information is solely for state parks. Living in Atlanta, I know of a few courses around that aren't state parks but county parks. They are also much closer than 30+ miles of the state parks.

    I'm hoping that this is simply due to an early start and more information will get put in as counties might get online. But if not, I think they're missing a big opportunity for more information and getting people more involved at a local level. But perhaps they are simply looking for the extra revenue from the parks since most of the local parks are free access.
  • by da3dAlus (20553) on Sunday June 22 2008, @05:27PM (#23897755) Homepage Journal
    Actually, I only briefly heard about the GO initiative last week, just in time for their "all parks free" day. I _had_ to use Google to find the site just get info about it, considering the news broadcast didn't divulge many additional details.
  • Being an employee of the State of Georgia I would of heard this. Ah well there out sourcing us (IT) soon, so I'll have all the opportunity to be out doors.
  • This is GREAT! (Score:3, Interesting)

    by HitekHobo (1132869) on Sunday June 22 2008, @05:40PM (#23897843) Homepage

    My girlfriend and I are traveling fulltime and living in the national forests, wildlife management areas, etc. I LOVE when we're in a state that has proactively put tons of information about their outdoor recreation areas online.

    It's so much easier to find places to stay and know what's nearby in areas like this than in the more backwards areas where you are just guessing and stopping to ask the locals, who often have no idea or just give bad advice.

    This is good for the state of Georgia, it's citizens and anyone traveling through the state that enjoys the ootdoors (the big blue room).

    • Just be careful or you might end up in clear-cut wasteland [creativeloafing.com] courtesy our wonderful leader. I just moved from the state, and alot of the "wilderness" areas now have huge swaths of these clear cuts. Sure, they claim they are in remote areas rarely visited, but they fail to mention that they are still very visible from the other more poplar areas. Now that Im in the Bay Area of SF, I get to enjoy the giant Red wood forests, which seem to be much better protected around here than the woods back in Ga. Its sad th
      • Actually the federal government has a whole organization expressly for the purpose of clear-cutting, it's called the bureau of land management. They maintain roads so that corporations can get in and clear-cut by contract, and to provide transportation when they want to come in and bust a guerrilla marijuana operation.
  • Which southern state was giving a Mozart CD to newborns (in lieu of future education and healthcare)? Mississippi?

    I tell you what, that's some quality health initiative you got there, boy. Yesiree.
    • Ya know - reading the press release and some of the comments here - I retract my sneery/snarky statement. I love the national forests. I've camped in dozens of them. I once spent a week working as a volunteer laborer, for a US Forest Service project. Anything to boost public interest and support is OK with me.
  • by Ilyakub (1200029) on Sunday June 22 2008, @05:54PM (#23897919)
    Interesting that the plan does not include promotion of Google Health.
  • it'll help the guy that called and asked how to get to Vogel State Park "from I-20." I might point out that I-20 runs through six states...
    • So he didn't know Vogel was in GA? I don't get it, what was the big deal?

      1) Take I-20 going towards ATL until you get to I-285.
      2) Go north on I-285.
      3) Go north on GA400.
      4) Follow the signs when you get near Dahlonaga.
      5) If someone tells you, "You got a perty mouth." you'll know you made it.

      Hell you could start in Abilene TX and follow those directions.

  • Tech innovation from a state where it is still legal to marry your first cousin. The end is near.
  • Connecticut has a similar outdoors initiative.
    http://www.nochildleftinside.org/ [nochildleftinside.org]

    Many states do. Not just the obese ones.
  • Since the article states that GA is the 12th fattest state, I wondered who was #1:

    http://www.thedenverchannel.com/health/2269064/detail.html [thedenverchannel.com]

    Not too surprising to see Mississippi is largest. I wouldn't have guessed Michigan would be #2. I guess that happens when it's too cold to go outside 5 months out of the year, and you sit indoors eating pasties (which, admittedly, make a delicious 1500 calorie meal.) Colorado's mountain climbing hippies are the leanest.

    What I find really shocking is that most states hav

  • Maybe they'll feel richer now that they're partaking of the goodness of a multbillion dollar CEO.

  • As a georgia resident, I know for a fact nothing will make people go outside.. well, nothing except a huge bubble over the entire state with a massive HVAC system cooling it about 20-30 degrees depending on the time of year.

    This year the winter "lows" were the mid 60's. I was walking around in a t-shirt basting in my own juices simply moving from the car to the grocery store in early january, and at this point in the year the AC barely keeps pace running 24/7 in a home a little over a decade old.

    Just to the south-east of atlanta is a small town, and in that town I actually found a runed stone cover to hell. I came back during the summer to find the devil himself climbing out of his domain through this opening proclaiming it's too cold down there, so he's taking a month vacation in ATL.

    Nobody in their right mind wants to go outside and fry, so people get fat.. and i mean MORBIDLY FAT. These people knock candy bar cases off the walls as they putter through the checkouts in the carts meant for paraplegics, their corpulence so spread that the 3 ft wide seat looks more like a bar stool.

    I think Lincoln made a horrible mistake not allowing the south to secede. They are, statistically and geographically, the US beer gut : P

    • Re: (Score:3, Funny)

      by Anonymous Coward

      Has anyone ever been to Georgia? I seriously doubt the rednecks have a 'going outdoors' problem. If it weren't for 2 inches of sheet metal, these people would *live* outdoors.
      I live in Georgia, you insensitive clod!
      And between the heat, mosquitoes, and smog, I hope to spend my summer in front of my computer. Then again, I'm posting to Slashdot, so you knew that already.
    • You did know that Georgia already had a web site for all the state parks [gastateparks.org], didn't you?

      The only real difference between this new site and that one is that they've added a "search by activity and zip code" function. All the information was already there and reasonably easy to find before, however.

    • I lived in Atlanta for several years (1996-2004).

      Unfortunately circumstances beyond my control forced me to leave.

      I'd still be there otherwise. I love it.
      • 4 Seasons (novel if you've spent most of your life in the Desert Southwest).
      • Winters aren't freezing and Summers aren't sweltering [wunderground.com].
      • Snow is rare.
      • Very cosmopolitan
      • One of the greenest cities (literally) around.
      • All kinds of things to see and do.

      Yes, it has it's problems (e.g. the traffic is horrendous) but so does every major city. Nevertheless,