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Google Lively Review

Posted by CmdrTaco on Thu Jul 10, 2008 10:17 AM
from the deja-what-now dept.
joc1985 writes "An objective review of Google Lively after a few hours of playing around. It seems to be a bad copy of Second Life. Somehow all the rooms are crowded, and porn has made its way in there already"
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  • by elrous0 (869638) * on Thursday July 10 2008, @10:18AM (#24135209)
    Billions of dollars in capital and they give us a retread of AlphaWorld [digitalspace.com] from 1996? What's next, GoogleMUD?
  • by MLopat (848735) * on Thursday July 10 2008, @10:19AM (#24135227) Homepage
    This is hardly an objective review. Then again the Slashdot submitter is also the author of the blog...

    When you read comments like "if it wasn't for the logo at the top left you wouldn't even know it was owned and operated by Google. The page is blend with no much color or style" it really makes you wonder. Does it matter that Google didn't brand it everywhere they could like other companies? In classical Google fashion, they took a simplified approach, which itself is a form of Google branding (just look at google.com)

    Then the reviewer goes on "It is 100% centered around the mouse, this for me is a horrible defect that must be solved immediately. I happen to know every keyboard shortcut known to man kind (sic) and I absolutely hate the mouse. I am sure there are many people like me out there. " Well good for you buddy. And great research you've done there in assuming that everyone else is just like you.

    Finally he concludes with saying he found "several Sex oriented rooms". A quick glance through the room index shows maybe a dozen of the 1000+ rooms that are listed there have a sexual theme. Seems like a pretty good ratio considering the amount of porn to be found on the internet and people's computers in relationship to the rest of the content on the web.

    But then again, remember this blog is from "The Random thoughts of a Christian IT Professional."
  • by pete_norm (150498) on Thursday July 10 2008, @10:20AM (#24135249)

    Somehow all the rooms are crowded and porn has made its way in there already"

    What more could you ask for???

    • Let's be honest... Google has been the starting point of porn searches for years now. They are just now presenting it to their users in a 3d environment! Technological advancement at it's finest!
  • by sakdoctor (1087155) on Thursday July 10 2008, @10:20AM (#24135259)

    You write that as if it's a bad thing.

        • Re: (Score:3, Insightful)

          I'm not sure whether there's a clear reason (it wouldn't surprise me if someone could come up with an argument). However, I think it's fair to assume that if someone would define himself as "a Christian IT Professional" enough to have it as the heading of his blog, then that guy would probably not be openly enthusiastic about porn.
            • by saider (177166) on Thursday July 10 2008, @11:45AM (#24137299)

              Not if the couple is married!

              I've wondered if there could be a market for "Christian porn" that addresses all the issues they have with it.

              1) Depict married couples in racey and stimulating scenes.
              2) Provide a system that ensures that the actors are not exploited.
              3) ???
              4) Profit!!!

              • Re: (Score:3, Insightful)

                by Anonymous Coward

                How do you enjoy watching married couple porn without coveting the guy's wife?

                • Only if the pr0n was starring the watcher's neighbors.
                  As in: 'Thou shall not covet thy neighbor's wife."

                  Which opens up the wives to be able to freely covet husbands whether they were neighbors or not. Also the field would be wide open to pr0n that featured married male gay pr0n, since nobody's wife was involved being coveted. It can get sticky from there. ;-)

            • by SQLGuru (980662) on Thursday July 10 2008, @12:57PM (#24139059)

              Actually, many Christian faith have as a fundamental belief the "Priesthood of the believer" http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Priesthood_of_all_believers [wikipedia.org] which allows that the individual has the right to interpret the Bible as they see fit (and preach that interpretation). So, some will consider it adultery and others will consider it "admiring the works of God". So, there you go.....maybe it is, maybe it isn't. You need to search your own concscience and proceed from there.

              Layne

  • Porn? (Score:3, Funny)

    by neoform (551705) <djneoform@gmail.com> on Thursday July 10 2008, @10:20AM (#24135265) Homepage

    I'm just waiting for the blackjack and hookers.

  • by Paranatural (661514) on Thursday July 10 2008, @10:21AM (#24135291)

    It was slow. It was clunky. The interface was pretty disappointing. Hell, even the 'Avatar choosing' part was badly done. I couldn't tell if I was supposed to be designing my own somewhere or just 'using someone elses'. It seems to be a half-baked beta indeed.

    • by mxs (42717) on Thursday July 10 2008, @11:34AM (#24137047)

      And worst of all, it's not apparent that there is a direction this is going in, or a usage that would not be a complete timewaster or done better elsewhere. Right now, you have a basic "take these 3d objects, slap them in a room, tack some animations on, maybe display a picture here, a youtube video there, and pretend there is something oh-so-cool that everybody is missing.

      It reminds me a lot of VRML, 'ca 1997.

  • LOL DONGS. (Score:3, Funny)

    by bellers (254327) on Thursday July 10 2008, @10:27AM (#24135447) Homepage

    If it's anything like Second Life, that's what you'll be saying a lot of.

  • Serious accusation (Score:5, Interesting)

    by Junta (36770) on Thursday July 10 2008, @10:28AM (#24135497)

    It seems to be a bad copy of Second Life.

    That's a severe accusation. I tried Second Life. I thought of it as all the design 'quality' and intelligence of myspace, now with 3D goodness...

  • Definitely a beta (Score:5, Informative)

    by Dmala (752610) on Thursday July 10 2008, @10:32AM (#24135601)
    Actually, calling it a beta is being generous. There are a lot of interface quirks and bugs to work out, and the content (as far as avatars, furniture, clothes, etc.) definitely feels more like a sample of what will be available. Once they open it up to user created content, I imagine there will be no shortage of "stuff". FWIW, I didn't really have the connection problems the reviewer had. The whole thing thing gets a little laggy in a crowded room, especially if the room is full of junk, but I didn't have any problems getting in.

    As far as the sex themed rooms, they seemed pretty tame to me, at least for now. (Uh, not that I checked them out or anything.) You're limited to streaming videos from YouTube, so you can't show anything that wouldn't pass muster there. You can also display static images in a "picture frame", but the frames seems to be pretty broken at the moment. They seem to only display a small portion of the image, regardless of the resolution. So, at least for the moment, it's pretty much impossible to display anything pornographic. I imagine once they open it up to user created content, though, it will become yet another haven for furries.
  • Platform Support (Score:5, Informative)

    by 99BottlesOfBeerInMyF (813746) on Thursday July 10 2008, @10:34AM (#24135627)

    I looked at this the other day and it seemed to claim to be a "Windows only" service. My Windows system was busy at the time, so I didn't investigate further and it was unclear if they planned on supporting other platforms in future. That's a non-starter in my book.

  • it's not interesting enough in itself for me to want to spend time playing with it.

    Looking at it in terms of a "20%" product that one of their engineers whipped out on their 'spare' time, it's fairly cool. I don't think they really expected the level of interest that would be shown though, or they would have held it back a bit longer for some more polish.

    It has been in testing before this current release. I can't remember which, but it was released to a university a year prior for their student community to play with.

    In a year, when it's been hammered on a bit more and Google either rolls it into a full fledged product or cuts it loose, I'll start paying more attention.

  • by Doc Ruby (173196) on Thursday July 10 2008, @12:08PM (#24137917) Homepage Journal

    If these virtual worlds included tagging other users with different "reject" or "approve" ratings, we could make pivate notes of who we reject and approve association with. People could even tag themselves with these ratings, which we could accept or ignore at our own option. And if the world included a social network function, we could adopt our friends' (or, probably unwisely, strangers' or enemies') ratings. If we could attach simple logic to the social network's ratings implications, like "friend of my friend is my friend" or "enemy of my enemy is my friend", or "30:10:60% friend:enemy:unknown is my friend, unless my friend X is their enemy, in which case they're my enemy", we'd be able to use our real world social skills to screen access to virtual characters.

    That system seems like a natural fit for Google's Orkut social network. With any luck, those tagging/rating/screening systems will be exposed in a standard protocol that will let us merge all our social networks in the separate sites into one big happy family (and mortal enemies, and true strangers), with all points between.

    • Re:FP (Score:4, Interesting)

      by Ron_Fitzgerald (1101005) on Thursday July 10 2008, @10:24AM (#24135375)
      Goatse I guess I can understand, Rick Rolls are damn funny but really, is there a huge endorphin rush that comes from saying 'first post' that I am missing? I would think that after the first thousand times it really would not be fun for even the most childish of people.
    • Re: (Score:3, Insightful)

      At the risk of stating the obvious -- yes. Slashdot editors frequently approve self-posted links and have done so for a long, long time.

    • Re:Bad copy? (Score:4, Interesting)

      by Ron_Fitzgerald (1101005) on Thursday July 10 2008, @10:34AM (#24135633)
      Direct hit to the nail head. I was truly let down with Second Life. I will even go back here and there to see if things changed but they never do.

      Last time I ventured into second life I searched for 'Beach' and was treated to a picture of a girl fingering herself.

      I had hopes for Second Life for businesses that I work with to have open house and virtual tours for lodging. I would not think about suggesting it anymore.
      • Last time I ventured into second life I searched for 'Beach' and was treated to a picture of a girl fingering herself.

        I once had this happen to me in First Life...

      • by kermit1221 (75994) on Thursday July 10 2008, @11:41AM (#24137213) Homepage

        "Last time I ventured into second life I searched for 'Beach' and was treated to a picture of a girl fingering herself."

        Yet if that were to happen to you in First Life you probably wouldn't complain.

      • by kv9 (697238) on Thursday July 10 2008, @12:14PM (#24138061) Homepage

        [...] I was truly let down with Second Life [...] Last time I ventured into second life I searched for 'Beach' and was treated to a picture of a girl fingering herself.

        explain to me, in simple terms, how THAT is a bad thing?

    • by eln (21727) on Thursday July 10 2008, @10:35AM (#24135651) Homepage

      Does that imply that a copy of Second Life could somehow be good?

      It could be a good thing if it was an antimatter copy of Second Life, which was then brought into contact with the original Second Life.

    • by moosesocks (264553) on Thursday July 10 2008, @10:58AM (#24136245) Homepage

      "Second Life is not a game," Dwight replied authoritatively. "It is a multi-user virtual environment. It doesn't have points or scores; it doesn't have winners or losers."

      "Oh, it has losers."

    • by darkrowan (976992) on Thursday July 10 2008, @10:37AM (#24135727)
      Exactly.... Christian and Unbiased can't really be said in the same sentence and with a straight face.
      • by H+FTW (1264808) on Thursday July 10 2008, @11:13AM (#24136577)

        I'm pretty sure slashdoter and unbiased can't be said in the same sentence with a stright face either. In fact you have to work pretty hard to find anyone who is unbiased.

        ....apart from me I'm very un biased....

        • Re: (Score:3, Informative)

          That's not the definition of unbiased [answers.com]. Perhaps the word you're looking for is unsolicited. Also you didn't call your review unbiased. You called it objective but your review is actually subjective. For future reference, objective = facts, subjective = opinions.
    • Everything at Google is Beta. They're like a bad project manager. They can start things. They can even make them pretty good, but they'll never actually finish anything. :)

          I can't comment much on the game. I primarily use Linux machines, so I'll have to plug in a Windows machine, and see if it turns on, before I can play.