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Alternative Uses For an Old Satellite Dish?
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kdawson
on Tue Jul 15, 2008 07:58 PM
from the birdbath-for-condors dept.
from the birdbath-for-condors dept.
ya really writes "My family has one of those BUDs (Big Ugly Dishes) sitting in their back yard still. The other day they asked me if I would take it apart for them. Aside from simply recycling it, I was wondering if there are any alternatives for its use. It was one of the last made before DirectTV and Dish took over satellite broadcasting, and even has a digital receiver. I'd say it was made around 1996."
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Use as... well... (Score:4, Informative)
Bird Baths...
Re:Use as... well... (Score:5, Funny)
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No, Mythbusters! (Score:5, Interesting)
Just give it the Mythbusters treatment and make an "Archimedes Death Ray" (AKA, very-short-range-small-stuff-burner-but-only-on-very-sunny-days.)
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Re:No, Mythbusters! (Score:5, Informative)
Rob from Cockeyed.com made his own Archimedes Death Ray and it worked:
http://www.cockeyed.com/incredible/solardish/dish01.shtml [cockeyed.com]
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Re:No, Mythbusters! (Score:5, Funny)
As long as all your enemies are less than three feet away, it makes a damn fine death ray. Now you know where the "Keep your friends close, and your enemies closer" proverb comes from.
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Re:No, Mythbusters! (Score:5, Funny)
Being a true villain, I always feel the need to strap my enemies to a bench within a metre of my death ray so this should work perfectly!
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Re:No, Mythbusters! (Score:5, Funny)
Ah yes, the infamous VSRSSBBOOVSD.
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Re:No, Mythbusters! (Score:5, Funny)
Ah yes, the infamous VSRSSBBOOVSD.
...of death.
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Re:No, Mythbusters! (Score:5, Funny)
A solar oven...
OF DEATH!
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Flamboastin (Score:5, Funny)
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A green use... (Score:5, Interesting)
Literally.
We had an old 8ft dish. My dad and I covered
the mounting holes with stainless mesh, filled
it with good soil and compost and planted a
nice selection of butterfly/hummingbird flowers
in it.
This kept certain plants from roaming beyond
the area desired. Use plants that trellis or
hang to cover the ugly sides/underside.
That oversized planter has been going for over
a decade now. The plants do a good job of
reseeding every year.
-AI
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Re:A green use... (Score:5, Interesting)
I've read in the past, that you can grab the signals coming down that the local stations use, and it is a better feed than what is then compressed and sent out by the local, and even Dish/DirectTv services.
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Re:A green use... (Score:5, Interesting)
Why use it as a receiver -- it works just as well as a transmitter.
Use it to signal alien overlords (that they won't receive your transmission for millions of years is beside the point), or to send "instructions" to NASA probes too old to have authentication and authorization protocols...
Or you could extend your WiFi to your favorite fishing spot.
Non-radio uses? Well, it could easily be turned into a sundial. It even comes with a gnomon; you just need a wabe.
Or, you could glue a Metallic Rod With A Red Tip to the center, and point it at your most paranoid neighbor's house.
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Re:A green use... (Score:5, Funny)
We actually did this in college - pointed it at the paranoid administrators who thought we had nothing better to do than listen in on their conversations.
In retrospect, it probably didn't help that we drew attention by having a flickering red light, wore headphones and pointed at them and laughed. One time, they closed the curtains (like THAT would help).
Every time we'd stick it out the window, they'd send security guards - but, we'd take it down before they arrived.
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Learn to make Paella (Score:5, Funny)
It's not hard.
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Re:Use as... well... (Score:5, Funny)
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Obvious Answer: Wi-Fi Antenna (Score:5, Informative)
Satellite dishes make excellent directional 802.11 antennas.
Just remove the existing LNB from the dish and replace it with a homemade antenna, like a biquad, tuned for your band-of-interest (i.e. 2.4GHz ISM for wi-fi). Make sure you get a powerful (high RX sensitivity & high TX power) wireless card with an external antenna jack
Here is one project write-up, though I'm sure there are many others:
http://www.engadget.com/2005/11/15/how-to-build-a-wifi-biquad-dish-antenna/ [engadget.com]
Alternatively, keep the LNB, get a DVB capture card (PCI models go for $20-$80+ new), and use the dish to get FTA (free to air) satellite TV.
There are many communities for this kind of thing exactly, just search google for: FTA forum
I'd also take apart that digital receiver and reverse engineer the hardware as much as I could, just for kicks.
When you've gotten your hour of fun out of it, gut it for parts and move on to the next interesting project.
Less Obvious Answer: Radio Telescopes (Score:5, Interesting)
And I wanted to write the processing portion
http://www.signalone.com/radioastronomy/telescope/ [signalone.com]
http://www.radiosky.com/faq.html [radiosky.com]
http://www.mtmscientific.com/radiotelescope.html [mtmscientific.com]
http://www.radiotelescopebuilder.com/ [radioteles...uilder.com]
One of these days, I'll put that 3 meter dish to use.
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Re:Less Obvious Answer: Radio Telescopes (Score:5, Interesting)
I did [slashdot.org] this as well - an (old) picture of the dish is here [gornall.net] - that was back when I lived in London - who needs a back yard, anyway ? :-)
Simon.
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Obvious Answer: World Record Wi-Fi Antenna (Score:5, Informative)
Some lads with a couple of your dishes cracked 125 miles [boingboing.net] during the 2005 Defcon Wi-fi distance shoot out. With your one dish on one end, and even the weakest built-in wifi antenna on the other, you can still create a solid network connection to the next County. If the other antenna is a run of the mill 15 or 24 dB directional wifi, you can really crank.
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Re:Remote DOS (Score:5, Funny)
Satellite dishes make excellent directional 802.11 antennas.
Just remove the existing LNB from the dish and replace it with a homemade antenna, like a biquad, tuned for your band-of-interest (i.e. 2.4GHz ISM for wi-fi). Make sure you get a powerful (high RX sensitivity & high TX power) wireless card with an external antenna jack
Me looking at access log and seeing wireless hack attempts... Looks at old C band dish and old microwave oven.. Hmm let's scan for the intruder and see if that laptop likes a KW of focused power in the WiFi band!
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Re:Obvious Answer: Wi-Fi Antenna (Score:5, Insightful)
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Tin Foil Hat Accessory. (Score:5, Funny)
2. Read other people's minds.
3. ???
4. Profit!
Re:Tin Foil Hat Accessory. (Score:5, Funny)
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I dunno. (Score:5, Funny)
Maybe you could use it to create some sort of device that would beam correct spellings into /. submissions?
Well. . . (Score:4, Funny)
Re:Well. . . (Score:5, Funny)
Females?
This guy posted on ./
Why don't you just ask him to build you a working warp core while your at it :)
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Sled (Score:5, Interesting)
This may be a bit redneck, but when I was a kid a friend had one. We took it down and used it as a big saucer sled to pull behind a truck in winter. It was great fun.
Cooking! (Score:5, Interesting)
Since it's parabolic, you can can, with the addition of some reflectivity, use it to concentrate the powers of the sun [backyardnature.net], suitable for culinary and other low-heat chemistry.
Reflecting! (Score:5, Funny)
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Attach handles... (Score:4, Interesting)
...and go sledding!
XKCD has the answer (Score:5, Funny)
Loud sex [xkcd.org].
Great source for $0 TV (Score:5, Informative)
Full size satellite dishes are still the best way to receive free television content, despite what the cable / pay satellite providers may imply in their advertising. If you don't have any place to put it yourself, it shouldn't be too difficult to find someone who would be willing to buy it.
One question? (Score:5, Funny)
Yes there 'r'. :)
keep it (Score:5, Insightful)
Go over to lyngsat.com [lyngsat.com] and see what you can see. Satellite TV is far more than what the media companies are willing to sell you.
DeathStar? (Score:5, Funny)
Either grow a massive hedge in an orb shape and stick this dish in the top section just like the DeathStar from StarWars or just do the same thing (sans hedge) with paper mache.
Re:DeathStar? (Score:5, Funny)
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what to do with BUDs (Score:5, Funny)
Radio Telescope (Score:5, Interesting)
Fountain (Score:4, Interesting)
Will still be a while making it though... I've been a year on an addition to the house and cleaning up the mess that the previous owner left.
C band (Score:5, Informative)
Get a C band LNB and point to the next C band sat that is out there.
Plenty of C band channels out there. A good list is here.
http://www.lyngsat.com/america.html [lyngsat.com]
sculpture (Score:5, Funny)
TV, Ham radio, etc (Score:5, Informative)
You could also:
thermal collector (Score:5, Interesting)
Yank out the transceiver, put in a heat exchanger in its place. Use sheets of 1/2 " peel and stick mirror tiles to cover the dish surface. Pick up a small 4 sided pyramid, put photocells on all 4 sides, and use a couple of differential op-amps to determine which side has the most light hitting it.
Use those two signals to run the motor controls to aim the dish. It will always point at the brightest spot in the sky. A small pump feeding fluid (such as connonseed oil) thru the heat exchanger, to a large thermal well( say a buried concrete container full of steel slugs), will gather all the heat you need. Use the secondary loop from the thermal well for your home heating, hot water, cooking. etc. (cottonseed oil will easily heat to 400F)
Bionic Ear (Score:5, Interesting)
mount a microphone at its focal point and aim that sucker (carefully) at whatever you would like to hear.
I also second, third, or whatever the notion of a death ray,
take a microwave oven apart and get creative with the +10 ray of amana.
Mind Play (Score:5, Funny)
Lower the dish so its pointing directly at your neighbours house.
When they enquire about it; Tell them you can now read their email.
Refuse to elaborate.
My shrink's neighbour has a dish pointed at the shrinks office. He says the paranoid delusionals love it. I love it too. Total coincidence.
Free TV... (Score:5, Informative)
I wrote about think kind of thing briefly in my journal a while back: http://slashdot.org/~evilviper/journal/189083 [slashdot.org]
You've already got most everything you need... For the cost of a DVB-S receiver ($40 for a PCI model, $100 for a set-top-box), you can get quite a few free TV channels, in addition to raw feeds and other eccentric stuff. No monthly fees required. That doesn't include most "cable" channels, but much more than you'll get with an antenna.
Alternatively, if your dish was already fitted with a Ku-band LNBF, you could simply aim it at the DirecTV sat, and get a VERY strong signal, eliminating drop-outs even in the even of airplane flyovers, or extremely heavy rain fade.
But I would suggest throwing out the DirecTV subscription, and going with the big-ugly-dish you already own, and a 4DTV receiver. It's easily the cheapest way to get subscription channels, probably less than 1/4rd the price of DirecTV or DishNet. Ala carte subscriptions are a big advantage that could save you dramatically.
Uses for a BIG dish. (Score:5, Interesting)
Oh, you have to be kidding me. Someone should take away your Slashdot license. :)
What would a geek do with a big honkin' parabolic reflector? All kinds of things.
1) The most obvious, pick up old satellite signals. I'm pretty sure (but not positive) that the C and KU bands are still in use. I used to watch live feeds for various news stations, along with all kinds of weird broadcasting. It was my first exposure to local TV in other areas.
2) "Free to air". I won't say anything else about that, it's up to you to research.
3) Listen in on unencrypted government traffic. There was a news story about this a few years ago. Some folks in England were intercepting not-so-secret US Government recon flights over Eastern Europe. (If they were to be really secret, they would have been encrypted and on different satellites). Just because the antenna normally points on one arc, it doesn't mean that's the only things to listen to.
4) One heck of a 802.11b/g antenna. :) Watch out for the FCC though, that's a lot of gain. You may need to put a finer mesh screen over your existing panels. Check your wavelengths.
5) Parabolic reflector + big light source (sun) = quick fried lunch. Cover it in mylar, and don't look into it directly. Better yet, don't be in front of it. It's all natural, and doesn't hurt the environment much. :)
6) Parabolic reflector + microphone = really big parabolic microphone. Since you still have the mylar on from #5, all you have to do is mount the microphone. Well, you may want to use something less optically reflective, like saran wrap, unless you want to risk cooking your $5 microphone. :)
7) Parabolic reflector + Microwave oven magnetron = trouble. Your 802.11b/g transmitter may have been putting off 0.025W (0.200W if you bought a good card). What happens when you pump 700W+ into the dish? :) How about a dozen magnetrons aimed into a smaller dish at the focal point, to reflect back down into the main dish first? 8.4KW and the gain of your antenna. You could cook your dinner from a few miles away. Don't aim it at friends, enemies, or anything you don't want to mess up pretty quick.
8) Get another one the same size, cover them both in mylar, and have your own UFO parked in the back yard. Sell the pictures to the National Enquirer, and then sell the UFO on eBay with a signed copy of that edition.
and on to the boring options.
9) Scrap metal?
10) Pull the panels, and you'll have really big snow shoes.
11) Pull the panels for snow sled racing this winter.
12) Pull the panels, Cover the convex side with styrofoam and fiberglass, and make some totally rad knee boards.
Enjoy!
Dream (Score:5, Funny)
You could fall asleep in it and broadcast your dreams all over the world.
Re:Solar oven (Score:5, Funny)
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