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Researchers Getting the Lead Out of Electronics
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on Wed Nov 19, 2008 07:57 PM
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from the space-age-polymers dept.
alphadogg writes "Researchers at the University of Maryland say they have discovered a material to replace lead, a potential environmental hazard, in electronics products. The material, bismuth samarium ferrite (BSFO), was found by researchers in the university's A. James Clark School of Engineering. It can be used in products such as biomedical imaging devices and inkjet printers, and if implemented commercially could keep lead out of landfills and the ecosystem, they say. While manufacturers have developed replacements for lead in many products, until now no commercial replacement existed for lead zirconate titanate (PZT) — the material of choice for transducers, actuators, sensors and microelectromechanical systems used in common electronic devices, the university says."
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What about radiation shielding? (Score:5, Interesting)
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Water, boron gas, aluminum, etc you tailor it like Chobham armor in layers and with other tricks. You don't really want lead because of the density it doesn't matter much in space unless you're aiming 60 kilotons of it at DC.
We WILL become more green all this 'waste' is becoming the new gold. Help develop efficient technologies to evacuate landfills of the wealth in them and be the next Bill Grates.
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I was under the impression that a materials ability to block radiation was (more or less) proportional to it's density. Lead being the densest cheap metal making it ideal. while the mass may not be a problem once in space, it sure is a heck of a penalty in lift weight to get it there though.
-nB
Re:What about radiation shielding? (Score:4, Funny)
So we can't throw 60 tons of lead at DC because the DC politicians are even more dense?
Sorry offtopic, but we are talking about dense things.
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Re:What about radiation shielding? (Score:4, Informative)
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Absolutely, it is. You can use a higher voltage and a process with larger feature sizes to make your electronics more resistent to a bit flip. The larger feature size and voltage means it takes more energy to flip a particular transistor, at the cost of larger circuits and more power consumed.
You have to add in some buffers to handle the sudden power spikes from particles, so your transistors themselves are safe from damage. Sure, you could still have radiation error events, but they're much less probabl
Re:What about radiation shielding? (Score:5, Insightful)
Actually, extra mass is a problem even once it is in space. Manoeuvring all that extra mass requires greater amounts of energy, which is often somewhat in short supply.
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Re:What about radiation shielding? (Score:5, Funny)
Hey, no fair actually knowing how physics work! Here we are, all sci-FI about things, and you barge in with just sci... you must think you're sooooooo much better than the rest of us don't you?
Good day sir, I say good day.
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New metal -- wait, what? I think you meant new alloy. And no, this new material shouldn't be any good for shielding; If anything, it would degrade more quickly in a radiation-rich environment than any of its base metals because of the oxygen. But I am not a chemist -- I'm just taking an educated guess here.
You don't send satelites to a landfill (Score:2)
Re:What about radiation shielding? (Score:5, Informative)
Lead is NOT a good shield against cosmic rays. Fast charged particles cause a strong bremsstrahlung (braking radiation) in lead. That's also how X-Rays machines work - fast electrons are slammed into targets made of lead or tungsten.
High-density polyethylene, water or paraffin work much better for cosmic rays shielding.
Now, lead is great against gamma-rays. But they are not the principal danger of cosmic rays.
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You can use pretty much any heavy metal as a target.
Copper is used because it has good thermal conductivity and high melting point - only about 1% of energy is converted into x-rays, most of it is dissipated as heat.
Toxicity? (Score:5, Insightful)
Re:Toxicity? (Score:5, Informative)
We'll need to test the compound itself, to be sure; but it probably beats lead.
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Isn't bismuth also used in pepto bismol?
Re:Toxicity? (Score:5, Interesting)
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Re:Toxicity? (Score:4, Insightful)
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Re:Toxicity? (Score:4, Informative)
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Bismuth is a widely accepted nontoxic substitute for lead...
So? Clorine and Sodium are two very toxic supstances, but NaCl isn't. See also: Thinkgeek [thinkgeek.com]
Properties of compounds often bear very little relation to their constituent parts.
Re:Toxicity? (Score:4, Insightful)
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But...but... (Score:2, Funny)
...bismuth is radioactive!
Re:But...but... (Score:5, Informative)
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Re:But...but... (Score:4, Informative)
From the same wikipedia article that was linked to (it's even in the first paragragh!):
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Lead solder replacement (Score:3, Insightful)
Re:Lead solder replacement (Score:5, Interesting)
As a technician, RoHS is the bane of my existence. It doesn't flow right, it doesn't wet right, and it doesn't cool right.
Because RoHS solder is not a true eutectic alloy it tends to separate when thermal conditions aren't precisely right. As a consequence, many manufacturers had huge runs of products that stayed soldered just long enough to get out the door and frequently out of warranty.
I hope someone comes up with a better substitute soon because I am sick and tired of cracked solder, cracked solder, and cracked solder.
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Also as a tech, I simply re-solder any failed component with lead/tin.
RoHS be damned. Though I do work in a prototype environment so meh on the production side.
-nB
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Perfect example being the RROD.
Re:Lead solder replacement (Score:5, Insightful)
You've got to love an environmental measure that ensures a significantly higher failure rate in electronic devices, meaning more electronics to trash -- electronics containing materials much more hazardous than lead. Sheer genius.
People in first world countries have so little to worry about in terms of health issues that they strain to find bogeymen, and lead has become one of the things filling that role.
I had one couple fly up from Texas just to see my house in Seattle, make an offer on it, and later rescind the offer because the house was old enough that it existed when lead paint was sometimes used. There was no specific reason to believe the paint was lead-based, and much of the house was wall-papered. The mom was terrified of the possibility of lead and her email withdrawing the offer was filled with heartbreak because they really adored the place; they ended up getting a recent townhome in a much less desirable location. One twist: they knew from the beginning that the attic had loose-fill vermiculite that had a decent chance of containing asbestos, and they had no problems with that.
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The problem is many companies think you just change the alloy to lead free, turn the ovens on a little hotter and every
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While the same formulas won't hold for a metal, the same ideas will be true. Another example. When you sweat, your skin is cooled by the fact t
Re:Lead solder replacement (Score:5, Informative)
As an engineer working on lead-free solder development for electronics, the problems that can arise are specific to the application. The industry has developed a number of different alloys that perform under specific conditions. Instead of just choosing a tin-lead solder that works pretty much everywhere, developers need to understand the types of reliability stresses their product will see and choose the best alloy to meet those requirements. For example lead-free solders that work well in a thermal cycling environment tend to not perform as well under shock conditions. From an assembly side of things, a lot of the problems arise from using old SnPb equipment and materials for soldering joints using leadfree solders. Different reflow temperatures, wetting characteristics, and oxides, means that you just can't use the same old eutectic flux and soldering iron and expect the same quality of results.
Lead-free solders aren't necessarily problematic, they just require a little more understanding to properly use.
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Reality check... (Score:5, Interesting)
Lead: Found in damn near every kind of mining ore. Very common.
Bismuth: 2x more abundant than gold. Not considered economical to mine for it; Usually had as a byproduct.
So sure, if you want your production costs to go up up and away, killing your competitive edge, use the eco-friendly BiFeO3. Everyone else, keep pushing recycling and consumer awareness. -_- Oh -- and the icing on the cake? Guess who produces most of the world's bismuth? China, the country best known for producing lead-laden products of much doom.
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The difference is that if my toddler becomes developmentally disabled from licking ore, there is no manufacturer to sue.
Well, I could try, but I've heard he's got a Hell of a legal team.
Re:Reality check... (Score:4, Funny)
If your toddler is licking mining ore I think your first court date will be with child protection services, not the manufacturer.
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Not to mention that as long as you keep it out of piping and digestive tracts, your levels aren't going to go up enough to matter.
Lead's also so easy to recycle people do it in their own garages.
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As opposed to licking circuit boards, which are probably live?
The problem with lead in electronics wasnt due to immediate risks, the problem was when the products got thrown out.
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And why does China produce the most Bismuth?
Because China produces the most lead from ore (the US refines more lead, but it's largely from scrap, not from ore)... I think China refines about 3x more lead from ore than the US.
On the plus side, bismuth production facilities are opening in Canada and other countries, on account of increased demand for b
Way Too Late (Score:3, Informative)
They may pick up some stragglers that are totally dependent on PZT, but in European consumer electronics, components containing significant PZT have been practically useless since 2006. Europe is not what I would call a small market - as a result, components everywhere are designed to meet the same requirements, meaning these components have suffered from declining demand and/or been removed from company plans.
Given that RoHS [wikipedia.org] has already had a staggering impact on the electronics industry, I don't see "maybe 2013, if people figure out that they want this material, and if we can actually mass-produce it" as too reassuring. I'm sure not designing anything in the hopes that a PZT replacement will hit the market sometime next decade.
Maybe if you're in ultrasonics this is big news?
More reliable than tin? (Score:5, Insightful)
While it's good that they're getting lead out of toys, etc. what about computers, televisions, and other devices/appliances which are generally not regarded as disposable? Is this new solder going to be more reliable than tin, which is notorious for whisker and dendrite formation, which wreaks havoc with reliability?
Given that you're on /. I'd assume that you know what tin whiskers and dendrites are, but in case you're not here is a refresher:
http://www.siliconfareast.com/whiskers.htm [siliconfareast.com]
You can see where this is a problem. And, although it's been discovered that matte tin surfaces and good quality control can reduce the likelihood of whisker formation, what about repairs and installation/reinstallation of components on a mainboard? Replacing integral components (capacitors, sockets, etc.) require high heat, which is sufficient to change the crystalline structure and introduce new stress points for whiskers to "grow," and flexing of the main board from installation of peripherals, connecting devices to sockets, and simple heat/cold cycling will be enough to introduce stress points even in properly-formed, properly-plated components, creating points where whisker formation is more likely.
Yes, protect the environment, but since more and more electronics are being recycled rather than being dumped in landfills, isn't lead in electronics a non-issue anyhow? I mean, in most localities you're not supposed to chuck monitors and devices containing printed circuit boards in the trash.
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This is about certain kinds of electrical components which needed to be made out of PZT.
$130 / 100g (Score:4, Funny)
A quick search came up with one site listing the cost of Samarium as $130 per 100g. I'm sure that's cost effective for medical imaging equipment. And I had never realized this, but our local landfill is positively brimming with discarded medical scanning equipment. I might try to scavenge some of this, but all the discarded MRI machines are clumped together by some unseen force.
Re:$130 / 100g (Score:5, Informative)
And I had never realized this, but our local landfill is positively brimming with discarded medical scanning equipment. I might try to scavenge some of this, but all the discarded MRI machines are clumped together by some unseen force.
Might want to reconsider that. [wikipedia.org]
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this is old news (Score:2)
Misleading title... (Score:3, Informative)
Why? (Score:5, Insightful)
Re:Why? (Score:4, Interesting)
Why, other than catering to the irrational and unfounded fears of the public, are we removing it from electronics?
Isn't that pretty much a politicians' job description these days?
The environmental lobbies have already pushed through enough regulations to put many U.S. industries out of business and left consumers with no choice but to purchase much more shoddy products manufactured with far less environmental controls from foreign sources. But, I guess that's okay. It's over there, right? It's not like pollution in a foreign country affects us.
Oh, wait..
Vacuum tubes come to mind as a good example. I currently design, build, and service vacuum tube musical instrument amplifiers. The tubes being made in China, Russia, and other countries in eastern Europe are crappy-sounding, unreliable, and vary wildly in specs from production-run to production-run, and even within a single run. It's so bad that old-production tubes that have sat in some dusty warehouse for 2 or 3 decades or more sell for unbelievably-high prices.
USD$400 for a pair of RCA 6L6's!?!? That's *if* you can find them somewhere?
http://www.kcanostubes.com/products/106/NOS-RCA-6L6GC-Blackplate-Matched-Pairs.htm [kcanostubes.com]
That's just nuts! The *whole amplifier* these things came in didn't cost that much new at the time!
I'm also going to keep on using regular 60/40 rosin-core solder in my builds and repairs until and unless they develop a true replacement that doesn't have the 'tin whisker' and other problems associated with current RoHS-compliant solders. If they outlaw it, I guess I'll be an outlaw.
I can see a future jailhouse conversation:
"What did they get ya for man?"
"Possession and distribution."
"Meth? Crack? Heroin?"
"Nah, 60/40 solder."
"Stay away from me, man!"
Cheers!
Strat
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No, it replaces lead zirconate titanate (Score:4, Informative)
The researchers haven't come up with "a material to replace lead." They've come up with a material to replace lead zirconate titanate, a.k.a. PZT, a piezoelectric and ferroelectric material with many uses in electronics. Because it has an extremely large piezoelectric constant (meaning that it produces a large voltage under little mechanical stress) and is cheap to produce, it is the ceramic frequently used in transducers, sensors, and resonators. The thing on your motherboard that beeps on boot is very likely made of PZT.
PZT is not, repeat not, used in solder. Wikipedia [wikipedia.org] is one of your many friends.
Finding a ceramic with similar properties, but without the lead, has been a difficult problem for materials scientists, and the UM researchers say they have finally come up with a viable candidate.
Duh..... (Score:4, Funny)
".....could keep lead out of landfills and the ecosystem, they say."
-Because everybody knows lead isn't from the environment.
Wait a Minute (Score:3, Insightful)
Wait moment. Isn't lead already in the ecosystem? Don't we dig it out of the ground because it's already there in the ground?