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Google Chrome Tops Browser Speed Tests
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on Tue Nov 25, 2008 03:15 AM
from the there-fixed-that-for-ya dept.
from the there-fixed-that-for-ya dept.
ThinSkin writes "So many Web browsers, so little time. The folks at ExtremeTech have assembled the ultimate browser test to determine which Web browser is king. From speed tests to rendering tests, different browsers traded off wins, but Google Chrome came out on top."
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Google Chrome (Score:5, Interesting)
But seriously, the speed difference is noticeable. When I'm on my mac, I miss using it. Plugins are hard to come by, but other than that, it's great. Quick as Firefox used to be.
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Re:Google Chrome (Score:5, Funny)
What is this Facebook you speak of?
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its like myspace but for posh peeple I fink.
Re:Google Chrome (Score:5, Funny)
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Re:Google Chrome (Score:5, Funny)
> What is this Facebook you speak of?
I assume it's something used to express disbelief at a situation or fact, much like "facepalm". Except, well, accomplished with a book one happens to be holding at the moment.
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Re:Google Chrome (Score:4, Funny)
But then, I was trained in the...meditative...initialization fields of Emacs, so I am at peace with this.
You get it moving, you open a slew of tabs, and life is good.
Maybe FireFox and Emacs could one day merge...
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Re: (Score:3, Informative)
Use Safari -- it uses WebKit which is the "secret sauce" of Chrome. Seriously, if you want something really fast, use the latest WebKit nightlies, which hook into the Safari shell. They are actually quite a bit faster than Chrome at the moment, which obviously uses an older WebKit build than the WebKit tip-of-tree.
Re:Google Chrome (Score:5, Informative)
The speed advantage of the nightly web kits is caused not by the fact that they're newer than chrome's rendering engine, but by the fact that they don't use Google's V8 javascript engine. Instead, they use the much faster (and also more correct) SquirrelFish Extreme engine.
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Re:Google Chrome (Score:4, Insightful)
V8 (and Chrome in general) is the software form of a bet that the web is going to host larger and larger applications.
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Re:Google Chrome (Score:5, Funny)
Instead, they use the much faster (and also more correct) SquirrelFish Extreme engine.
That sounds like some sort of obscene initiation rite...
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Re:Google Chrome (Score:5, Funny)
"Guess I must be the only one here using Chrome."
Thats because its not released for Linux yet!
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Re:Google Chrome (Score:5, Funny)
"Guess I must be the only one here using Chrome."
Thats because its not released for Linux yet!
Busted!
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Re:Google Chrome (Score:5, Informative)
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Re:Google Chrome (Score:5, Informative)
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Re:Google Chrome (Score:5, Informative)
Actually, while not strictly "pure safari", the nightly builds of WebKit (safari's engine, including javascript engine), have a new, much faster Javascript engine called SquirrelFish Extreme, it not only beats V8 in speed (even on the heavily biased V8 benchmark), but also correctly renders Acid3, along with getting many less-corner-case parts of javascript correct.
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Not a suprise to anyone who has tried Chrome (Score:5, Insightful)
But speed isn't everything. The moment Chrome lets me use the 17 extensions I have to firefox and is still the fastest, I applaud. Currently I couldn't even consider having to lose all the extensions that help web development and surfing...
This thing should be clear to everyone by now.
Use Chrome if you want speed, Firefox if you want extensions, IE if you just want to annoy the hell out of all us Firefox fanboys, Opera if you want a ready package of speed and features, etc...
Re:Not a suprise to anyone who has tried Chrome (Score:5, Funny)
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Re:Not a suprise to anyone who has tried Chrome (Score:4, Interesting)
Most people I've ever asked "exactly what Firefox extensions do you use", give me a list of features that are either in safari or easily available through plugins. Some examples:
FireBug -- already included in the web inspector, Safari 3's is FireBug's equal, while Safari 4 DP's is massively improved.
AdBlock -- SafariAdBlock, nuf said.
Full Screen Mode -- Glims
Search in address bar -- Glims
etc.
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Re: (Score:3, Interesting)
I'm not a web developer (just occassionaly only) but to that list of FireFox plugins you can add YSlow, HTML Validator, and an inline PDF reader (not external requiring full download of PDF first as 25% of what I view is PDFs).
Also, I use Firefox on Mac OSX, FreeBSD, and Windows Vista and having a consistent browser is convenient -- though the PDF readers work better on some than others.
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It's built in, turn the Developer menu on in preferences, and select Develop -> Disable Javascript.
Re:Not a suprise to anyone who has tried Chrome (Score:5, Insightful)
And if you want 1 site to be able to use javascript, but you wouldn't allow another site to use it unless hell froze over ?
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Re:Not a suprise to anyone who has tried Chrome (Score:5, Funny)
And Safari's for people that don't want extensions or features. Right?
or if you're just tired of itunes asking you if you want to install safari
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Re:Not a suprise to anyone who has tried Chrome (Score:5, Interesting)
I've grown so attached to some extensions I'll very soon stop even consider anything not having them.
How long till they start making browsers with a "firefox plugin compatible" feature?
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Safari? Safari what? (Score:5, Interesting)
You're using a non-release Chrome and yet I'm not seeing a nightly build of Safari referenced.
The Developer Preview of Safari 4.0 trounces Safari 3.1.x.
The Safari nighly builds trounce all over Safari 4.0 developer preview.
Re:Safari? Safari what? (Score:5, Insightful)
Yeah, I use the Webkit nightly builds. Webkit runs circles around everything else, plus it renders the Acid 3 test 100%. Yet reviewers will review beta/alpha browsers and leave Webkit out.
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Re: (Score:3, Interesting)
Btw, IE 8 beta 2 also seem to have way improved performance over IE 7, although that one will still not reach "interesting" levels in a test like this.
Interesting, but nothing really new (Score:5, Insightful)
Summary: IE is crap, Safari has some issues, Opera most compatible with Acid 3, Firefox is OK and Chrome is fast but not finished.
So, a stripped-down browser is fast. Wow.
In the real world, I'll be sticking with Firefox, with Ad blockers, Greasemnkey etc.
Re:Interesting, but nothing really new (Score:5, Insightful)
You are a leech on the rest of society
Because I use ad-blockers? How about people who use TIVO? I have no problem paying for stuff, and contribute to free projects, donate to Wikipedia etc. Just because I sometimes want a less-intrusive browsing experience does not make me a leech. And who gives a shit about karma anyway?
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Re:Interesting, but nothing really new (Score:5, Funny)
Luckily for you there are people like me who will share the burden you place on society.
What do you do? Look at extra ads? What a retard.
I use adblock+, everyone who's computer I service uses FF + adblock+. I am going to make sure tomorrow I convert at least 5 new people. Just to piss you off.
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Do you really believe that looking at adds create value for the society????
Re:Interesting, but nothing really new (Score:5, Insightful)
I never ever have bought a product found through an advert. So I'm actually costing less to the chain of advertising than if I actually downloaded their ads (ok, but more than if I never visited their sites).
Do you really think they'd be better off if I have actually seen their ads but never acted on them? That would imply being a leech to the people who paid for the ads, isn't it? How is adblock different?
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A leech because we want to explore the internet without unsolicited ads? A user may be interested in exploring a sites content only to be exposed to unsolicited (and importantly here, unannounced) advertising. Seems to me like adblocker is a great service
Just because you make money from ads doesn't mean it's the only way for "society" to grow fruitfully, in fact I'd argue that it is unnecessary (though heavily relied upon because it is an option). That advertising provides disproportionate support to aspec
Re:Interesting, but nothing really new (Score:5, Insightful)
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Re:Interesting, but nothing really new (Score:5, Insightful)
Using ad-blocker is simply stealing. And yes I do call it stealing because you are incurring a cost on the content provider without compensating them. Its no different from stealing at a store with poor security.
So, is using links/lynx/w3m stealing too? Is turning off images in Firefox and not installing flash stealing too?
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That's not the browser speed (Score:5, Funny)
That's just the rendering engine they're testing. My browser is called "AdBlock".
Wrong use case (Score:5, Interesting)
...at least for me. I don't care about optimizations that allow a page to be loaded and rendered 0.1 seconds faster. The lower bound on how fast a page loads is rarely imposed by the browser anyway.
I often like to use the "Open All in Tabs" feature of Firefox, in which an arbitrarily high number of bookmarks in a folder are opened and loaded simultaneously. I can open and load 15 sites (with adblocking) in under 3 seconds. Chrome seemed to take a second to open just one tab, let alone 15.
I'm not saying I'm the normal user, but test more than the scripting engine and the rendering system before saying a browser "tops speed tests".
I'll give up a few milliseconds. (Score:5, Insightful)
Re:I'll give up a few milliseconds. (Score:5, Informative)
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Nonsense (Score:5, Informative)
There's some weird stuff in this "article". For example, what does it mean to "include V8 code" in a browser? Even choosing V8 as a benchmark is a mistake. Sunspider is the standard JS benchmark and it's much broader in scope.
Awarding 10 points for winning a category and then adding up the points to reach a final score is the most statistically bogus "methodology" ever.
It's nice to see SVG and canvas in benchmarks, but "IE8 will fix that compatibility issue"? Completely untrue, IE8 will not support SVG and canvas. This bit of ignorance makes me worry about the whole piece.
And as others have noted, comparing the Chrome beta against various-aged releases of other browsers makes little sense.
More Nonsense (Score:3)
Let it be known now and henceforth, Google Chrome IS THE ONLY BROWSER USING V8. Safari's new stuff is SquirrelFish and Mozilla's is TraceMonkey.
Please know this before you write an article making yourself look foolish.
Adblock or bust (Score:3, Insightful)
Till it's got adblock, I don't care if it renders pages before they exist. I don't care if it makes me breakfast or does my laundry. In short, without adblock, it ain't S**T.
Why IE7 and not IE8? (Score:5, Insightful)
Chrome is the current browser beta from Google, and IE8 is the current browser beta from MS... so why compare Chrome in the same group as IE7?
Who really cares? (Score:5, Interesting)
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Why not Konqueror? (Score:5, Insightful)
Why does no-one include Konqueror in these tests? It's even available for Windows [kde.org] these days.
Re:Why not Konqueror? (Score:5, Insightful)
In KDE 4, Konqueror uses effectively the same rendering engine as Safari, and I for one have not been encountering many rendering errors. Which sites misrender for you?
The majority of the Firefox codebase is cross-platform. If it crashes on Linux, you can bet it'll crash on Windows too, under similar circumstances*. In my experience, it is equally (un)stable on both platforms.
I use Konqueror for most things due to it's speed, and Firefox when I have to use Windows, and for the occasional sites which insist on specific browsers or use broken flash-detection scripts (why must sites try to decide whether you can have flash content instead of just sending you the tag and seeing what you do with it)?
* Barring buggy plugins, that is. For me, Quicktime causes more crashes than any plugins on Linux.
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How come the only beta browser tested was Chrome? (Score:5, Insightful)
It's quite dubious that the only beta browser tested was Chrome, especially when most of the others have publicly available beta versions available for testing. Yes, I understand that the *only* release of Chrome is a beta, but then either Chrome should be disqualified from testing since it's not a final release or other browsers' beta releases should be allowed into the test (why not include both a final and beta release of those in that case, so we can see if there are improvements in the beta?).
I'd also like to see tests on non-Windows platforms as well, although Chrome scores as badly as IE here - it's *only* available on Windows at the moment and there's been a vague promise of ports to Mac and Linux, but these seem to be predictably dragging on and on.
Rigged? (Score:5, Insightful)
Re:Dosen't change the fact that (Score:5, Funny)
Nonsense. I'm using Firefox.
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