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New .tel TLD Now In Use

Posted by timothy on Wed Dec 03, 2008 01:12 PM
from the pay-at-the-tel-booth dept.
rockwood reports that the .tel top level domain has been deployed, "in a first attempt at pushing the recently approved .tel... The top-level domain .tel was approved by ICANN as a sponsored TLD launching on Wednesday, December 3, 2008 to trademark owners of national effect and on February 3, 2009 to anyone who wishes to apply. Its main purpose is as a single management and publishing point for 'internet communication' services, providing a global contacts directory service by housing all types of contact information directly in the DNS."
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  • Huh? (Score:4, Interesting)

    by TypoNAM (695420) on Wednesday December 03 2008, @01:18PM (#25977805)

    Is anybody else shrugging their shoulders and asking the same question of: What the hell is the point in wasting DNS space for such a half-assed crap idea?

    • Re:Huh? (Score:5, Interesting)

      by eldavojohn (898314) * <my/.username@@@gmail.com> on Wednesday December 03 2008, @01:26PM (#25977899) Homepage Journal
      Take a look at what's already out there [google.com]. Mostly over 500 Telnic employees grabbing henry.tel and david.tel. Yawn.

      Its main purpose is as a single management and publishing point for 'internet communication' services ...

      And right from the get-go it's main purpose is overshadowed by some every Telnic employee's desire to be THE Henry on the .tel TLD. That must be awfully helpful to us in our need for 'internet communication' services.

      More garbage for the tubes, I guess.

      What the hell is the point in wasting DNS space

      Are we really concerned about "DNS space?" I guess I'm a bit of an idiot when it comes to why we need to be concerned about 'space' on DNS names ... perhaps you mean IP address space? And if so, people are basically flushing those down the toilet by giving every device one (including their toilet).

      • Re:Huh? (Score:5, Insightful)

        by onefriedrice (1171917) on Wednesday December 03 2008, @01:52PM (#25978247)
        Perhaps by DNS space he means the fact that organizations who want to register their website under all the TLD's in order to protect their name will have yet another TLD. As the number of domains that point to the same IP address increases, so does the number of pointless DNS requests.
      • Yeah, I know "dur - of course it's a money-grab".. but I really wish that the various organizations involved would just come out and say so as well.. "We will allow any TLD as long as you give us enough money and it doesn't offend governments too much."

        Apart from john.doe.tel - check out friends.jennifer-aniston.hollywood.celebrity.tel .

        Now, it's possible somebody actually registered that (for $$$ - how much $$$ I don't know as you apparently have to sign up first.. whatthe.) but I'm just going to go with t

      • Re: (Score:3, Interesting)

        Take a look at what's already out there. Mostly over 500 Telnic employees grabbing henry.tel and david.tel. Yawn.

        These all seem to follow a template. Obviously Telnic told all its people to create domains to help publicize the product. Teensy little mistake: the pages do nothing to obfuscate personal email addresses. Got spam?

        • Exactly. There is no privacy options. Its one central phone book where people can put all of their contact info. But there is no filter. Might be good for companies, but not individuals who value their privacy and identity.
      • Re: (Score:3, Funny)

        MY toilet doesnt need an IP address. NAT is fine...

        but it does twitter...

        11:43 @lumpytoilet -- Dog drinks from bowl
        12:14 @lumpytoilet -- seat put down
        12:28 @lumpytoilet -- FLushed
        12:29 @lumpytoilet -- FLushed
        12:30 @lumpytoilet -- FLushed
        12:31 @lumpytoilet -- FLushed
        12:32 @lumpytoilet -- Plunger RFID detected
        12:33 @lumpytoilet -- Water on floor detected

        • Actually, an internet-connected fridge I can kind of see, now that we've got various forms of wireless internet in so many places. Connect to the fridge's HTTP server, it turns on the interior light, takes snapshots of what's on each shelf, and serves them back as a webpage. Now I *know* what's in my fridge, instead of trying to remember while I'm at the grocery store. (Granted, eight years ago it was kind of silly, since there wireless internet was much less common.)

          However, an internet connected toaste

    • I can understand something like the .XXX tld, for the purpose of openly idenfitying what a site is (and ease in blocking porn sites in school LAN's and such), but otherwise, creating this raft of tld's is a really silly idea. We've just now gotten to the point where most users don't think everything ends in "dot com". The proposed system of hyper-classification won't be a boon to anyone but domain squatters and con artists. And for the non-technical public, it'll be just plain confusing.

      Even as quickly as i

        • Well actually they used to be arranged that way (like newsgroups, from general to specific), but it was reversed in, I dunno, 1993 or so. I remember when I started at university in 1995 it was still possible to send emails to people with the domain arranged that way round.

  • .mobi? (Score:3, Insightful)

    by larry bagina (561269) on Wednesday December 03 2008, @01:19PM (#25977809) Journal

    sounds like .mobi. And probably as irrelevant.

  • by MosesJones (55544) on Wednesday December 03 2008, @01:19PM (#25977815) Homepage

    Brilliantly "I CANN but I shouldn't" manages to win the dumbest, stupidest, most pointless idea of the whole sodding year.

    I mean just having a "standard" of I don't know VCF and using MIMEtypes from a web page would give you the ability to do this sort of connectivity address book stuff within the existing infrastructure. Now the idea is that everyone should register an equivalent .tel (errrr how do they do that when there are different companies at the .com, .net, .org, .co.uk, .fr etc addresses).

    Quite astonishingly badly stupid and I applaud their genius by making sure it will be in everyone's mind as the "worst idea of 2008" is compiled. The only person who might be happy about this is the 2000-2007 undisputed winning partnership of Bush/Cheney for their "Threatening China", "What Torture?" "What WMD?" "Mission Accomplished", "What problems in Iraq?" and many other household favourites.

    As my mother said "Just because 'you can' doesn't mean 'you should'". I propose a name change to ICANN to "Please god no we can't be trusted with this responsibility"

  • too late (Score:2, Insightful)

    by Anonymous Coward

    all these one-roof TLDs would maybe have been worth something if they were there from the beginning. But everyone wants a .com because everything on the interwebz is a www.*.com or .org for organizations as if it lent credence to their validity. It's just far too late now and serves little use, and practically no guarantee of homogeneity.

  • by theilliterate (1381151) on Wednesday December 03 2008, @01:20PM (#25977841)
    "dontaskdottel"
  • Uh, what? (Score:4, Insightful)

    by TheRaven64 (641858) on Wednesday December 03 2008, @01:21PM (#25977843) Homepage Journal
    How is that meant to work? I already use existing domain names for 'Internet communication' services, like email and IM. I can already use DNS to map telephone numbers to these with RFC 2916 or map arbitrary domains to them with RFC 2915. So, what exactly, is the point of .tel?
    • Re: (Score:3, Insightful)

      So, what exactly, is the point of .tel?

      The point is to make money for the registrars, of course, since now every major web site will have to register foo.tel to go along with foo.com, foo.org, foo.biz, foo.info,......

      • Re:Uh, what? (Score:4, Interesting)

        by Kent Recal (714863) on Wednesday December 03 2008, @02:12PM (#25978511)

        Aren't we beyond the point of "must own every tld in existence" by now?

        I lived through that in my old company. They literally wanted all TLDs, not only for the primary name but also for most spelling mistakes. And for country-specific spelling mistakes (french people might make different mistakes than english people).

        Consequently they had 1-2 fulltime employees doing nothing but domain registration and babysitting. Yes, domains do need babysitting when you're literally owning thousands of them from all countries of the world. Ever deciphered a russian expiry notice? Or tried to establish an office in some arabic country only so that you are allowed to buy a domain from them?

        Long story short: Most sane businesses should have realized by now that they really only need the standard set (.com/.net/.org), plus the country TLDs for the countries where they're actually doing business. Everything else is wasted money. If someone squats your name on some obscure foreign TLD then so what? Ignore them or sue them into oblivion (trademark!) if they try to pull off scams in your name.

  • Enum (Score:4, Insightful)

    by Imagix (695350) on Wednesday December 03 2008, @01:22PM (#25977869)
    Uh, didn't this used to be called Enum? (e164.arpa.)?
  • I could be wrong, but this sounds very similar to the purpose of the .net TLD! Why so many new useless TLDs?
  • by Farmer Pete (1350093) on Wednesday December 03 2008, @01:27PM (#25977911)
    As if we don't have enough TLD's already...

    I think the part that gets me the most angry is, have you ever tried to tell someone your email address over the phone when it doesn't end in com/org/edu? My company was apparently late to market with their webpage, so we have a 20 character dot com address and an incredibly short .biz address. I used to choose the .biz because I thought it would be simple for people to understand. I'm very careful to enunciate my letters, but these people are clueless. No matter how much I tell them B as in Bravo, I as in Indiana, Z as in Zebra, they end up with DIC...Seriously, if there even was a .dic TLD, would you want to be there???
    • Re: (Score:3, Interesting)

      As if we don't have enough TLD's already

      Can you get your last name.com or .anything? I snagged mcgrew.info when .info frst came ou, but let it lapse. I doubt seriously I could get it back.

      IMO we have no where near enough TLDs.

        • Re: (Score:3, Insightful)

          You misunderstand what I mean. If you have a TLD for .food and another tld for .aero, mcdonald.food could take you to McBurgers, while mcdonald.aero would take you to McDonald Aircraft.

          mcgrew.nerd might take you to me, while mcgrew.funny would take you to the comedian with my name. I'm not suggesting that "mcgrew" be a TLD, just that there aren't enough TLDs to go around. I don't think five is a nearly big anough group.

          Yet my lastname.com is not available

          That's because the squatters took every goddamned nam

    • Seriously, if there even was a .dic TLD, would you want to be there???

      \

      I'm sure grammar/spelling fascists would find it appealing.

    • Seriously, if there even was a .dic TLD, would you want to be there???
      I wouldn't want to be there but I can think of several people I would recommend to be moved...
    • Hell, it's even worse now that every two-bit wannabe mail administrator thinks he can block .info because "nobody uses it but spammers". I've talked with these people. They're like "get a gmail account. It's free." Free -- sure, but nevermind the investment I've made in having nice, short contact info. If you hadn't broken your mail system, I wouldn't have to go to this extra effort to deal with your idiocy.

      -l

  • loldomains (Score:4, Funny)

    by w0mprat (1317953) on Wednesday December 03 2008, @01:33PM (#25977981)
    ICANNhas.cheezburger?
  • by girlintraining (1395911) on Wednesday December 03 2008, @01:34PM (#25978001)

    I think we should register the .WTF TLD and use it as a "parody TLD for anyone who wants to mock a trademark"

  • Wow, I don't know if they could be more clueless if they tried. Last month they announced that they want to start selling new gTLDs, and now, in the wake of the widespread presence of bad data in DNS, they are announcing a TLD for more DNS data?

    What problem are they trying to solve here?
  • Wikipedia entry (Score:2, Informative)

    by Anonymous Coward

    Am I the only one who thinks the Wikipedia entry - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/.tel - reads like a Telnic (sponsor of the TLD) press release, complete with obligatory positive quotes?

    Industry experts were positive to the demonstrations, with comments in blogs including author of Net Attitude[5] and founder member of the W3C John R. Patrick stated "I think this will be a big deal."

  • Given that the purported usage of .tel is for non-mail applications, all mail from ".tel" should be blocked. Don't even accept a SMTP connection.

  • in.tel is mine and those bastards can pry it from my cold, dead fingers. Or, cough up a million bucks. I thought about taking AMD.tel, but it just doesn't have the same appeal.
  • If I got a .tel would I be required to use it as prescribed, or would I be free to put whatever I like? The current example pages remind me of those placeholder pages the squatters use, and based on that I expect this will be a sea of noninformation by the end of next year. [largeco.tel]

  • They also created the .sho domain.
  • What a racket (Score:3, Interesting)

    by Bertie (87778) on Wednesday December 03 2008, @02:45PM (#25978965)

    1. Come up with new TLD
    2. Watch corporations flock to register theirname.tel because they can't afford for squatters to get there first
    3. ??
    4. Profit!

    Repeat every time you feel the need for a new revenue stream.

    Nice work if you can get it.

  • by Ilyakub (1200029) on Wednesday December 03 2008, @03:13PM (#25979391)
    .name [wikipedia.org] has been active since 2001, for the very same purpose. It's not very popular.
    • from TelNic: "Registry will charge a USD$275 fee for an initial mandatory three (3) year term for each Domain Name registered as a consequence of any Landrush registration."

      Now, if you wait until Open Registration, then you only pay $8 per year.