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Google Tricycles To Map Footpaths For Street View

Posted by kdawson on Tue May 19, 2009 12:42 PM
from the hope-they-are-well-insured dept.
CNETNate writes "To advance its Street View service this summer, Google is poised to unleash the unstoppable power of human legs. Google will deploy pedal-powered tricycles — the company calls them 'Google Trikes' — mounted with 360 degree Street View cameras to map areas inaccessible by its fleet of Street View cars." The article indicates that the trikes will first see use in the UK, to map out public walking paths, but one anonymous commenter said: "This must be bogus — you are not allowed to cycle on public footpaths in the UK, I can't believe Google would have overlooked such a fundamental fact. Not to mention that the vehicle pictured wouldn't fit down most paths." PC World features the trikes in Rome.
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  • by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday May 19 2009, @12:44PM (#28014343)

    "The article indicates that the trikes will first see use in the UK"

    He then goes on to link to pictures of them actually being used in Rome. Did the UK annex Rome?

  • Next up: (Score:5, Funny)

    by fuzzyfuzzyfungus (1223518) on Tuesday May 19 2009, @12:44PM (#28014345) Journal
    Google Sherpa!
  • by jsnipy (913480) on Tuesday May 19 2009, @12:48PM (#28014397) Journal
    Soon there will be "Google Stuff in Your House" where a half dozen guys dressed head to toe in black with head mounted cameras will rifle through your belongings, cabinets, and drawers. So when you loose your cars keys, just Google it!
    • Re: (Score:3, Funny)

      by Anonymous Coward

      http://farm1.static.flickr.com/108/261905722_d2912c0465.jpg It's already been done!

    • by Red Flayer (890720) on Tuesday May 19 2009, @01:07PM (#28014715) Journal
      I'm not sure you thought your cunning plan all the way through.

      Me: Honey, where did I put my car keys?
      Her: I don't know dear, just fucking google it.
      Me: OK, according to Google they are on the keyhook next to the door... WTF? They aren't there!
      Her: Oh, that's right, dear, the Googol Housecrawling Spiders of Doom haven't been through since last Tuesday. That's where they were then.

      Me: Fucking useless GoogleHouse app. At least they helpfully recorded the combination when I unlocked my safe.
      • by noidentity (188756) on Tuesday May 19 2009, @01:34PM (#28015169)

        Me: OK, according to Google they are on the keyhook next to the door... WTF? They aren't there!
        Her: Oh, that's right, dear, the Googol Housecrawling Spiders of Doom haven't been through since last Tuesday. That's where they were then.
        Me: Fucking useless GoogleHouse app.[...]

        There's always Google's cached copy of them...

      • by Clovis42 (1229086) on Tuesday May 19 2009, @03:08PM (#28016637)

        Shortly after I showed Google Earth to my Mom, she came to me with a question. A friend of hers wanted to know if I could get photos of someone who broke into her house. That's right; satellite images of a specific time (at night!) that were good enough that you could actually identify the people in them, on google, for free. Now, maybe the CIA can do this....

        I remember being amazed at what was offered on Google Earth when it first came out. It is always surprising when someone else thinks that a technology can do something that is insanely more complicated than what I was amazed by.

    • by noidentity (188756) on Tuesday May 19 2009, @01:31PM (#28015119)

      So when you loose your cars keys, just Google it!

      Wouldn't tightening them be more appropriate?

      • by fava (513118) on Tuesday May 19 2009, @02:26PM (#28015949) Homepage

        Considering the scale bars at the bottom are set to 200 miles, then I would say its a pretty big flat.

        There would be no problem seeing it from orbit, the coffee table is 100 miles by 200 miles just by itself, and the rug is a massive 700 miles square.

        Your brother must be rich to afford a flat that big!

  • google + scuba = ? (Score:4, Interesting)

    by skathe (1504519) on Tuesday May 19 2009, @12:48PM (#28014411)

    gooba? scoogle? scooble?

    just attach cameras to aquatic lifeforms and let us swim the depths of the oceans from our computers... no chance of being stabbed in the heart by a stingray, either!

  • LIDAR? (Score:4, Interesting)

    by CraftyJack (1031736) on Tuesday May 19 2009, @12:48PM (#28014417)
    It looks like the mast has 3 lidar eyes on it. How does StreetView use lidar?
    • Re:LIDAR? (Score:5, Funny)

      by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday May 19 2009, @12:53PM (#28014501)

      By attaching it to their masts.

    • Re: (Score:3, Interesting)

      First of, that are likely four LIDARs. Two horizontal (forward-backward), two vertical (left-right).
      My semi-educated guess:
      - Horizontal: Kind of SLAM [wikipedia.org]: Creating a map and improving the own position accuracy (as initially determined by GPS) through a map.
      - Vertical: 3D surface-reconstruction.

  • by starglider29a (719559) on Tuesday May 19 2009, @12:53PM (#28014505)
    ...until SKYNET uses this data to track us to our hiding places in the woods!!!
  • I can just imagine (Score:3, Insightful)

    by KingPin27 (1290730) on Tuesday May 19 2009, @12:55PM (#28014537)
    With as much animosity as google street views has already been met with
    http://tech.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=09/04/02/1731231
    http://yro.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=09/05/13/0055234
    I can just imagine what these guys riding around on bikes will meet up with - Can anyone say moving target?
    • by pjt33 (739471) on Tuesday May 19 2009, @01:35PM (#28015175)

      I imagine they'll have plenty of evidence to help the police identify their assailants.

        • by rossifer (581396) on Tuesday May 19 2009, @02:47PM (#28016311) Journal

          I have a potato cannon that's accurate enough from 50-100 yards away but also works like a mortar launcher that we can peg a bush roughly 5 acres away (about 250 yards).

          5 acres away? If you planted those 250 yards with zucchini, how many neighbors could you bother over the next furlong?

          (Yeah, yeah, so I'm not all that great with jokes about improperly used units.)

    • They see me roll on
      My Google Trike
      And I know in my heart
      They think I'm ridin' nerdy

  • by One Louder (595430) on Tuesday May 19 2009, @12:59PM (#28014593)
    I was a Seaworld in San Diego a few weeks back and one of these was driving around the various pathways taking shots for Street View. Haven't seen the data go live yet, though.
  • by randomchicagomac (809764) on Tuesday May 19 2009, @01:00PM (#28014605)
    As a bicyclist, I'd love it if google had decent maps of off-street bike paths, such that I could use google maps' normal direction-finding feature with these. I've lived in lots of cities with numerous such paths, and they're usually out of the way and hard to find if you don't already know that they're there. It would be great to have a feature that a) lets me find them, and b) tells me exactly how far out of my way I'd need to go for the added safety/pleasantness of using them.
    • Re: (Score:3, Insightful)

      Unfortunately the Google trike is far to wide to access many UK cycle paths. Many have a small barrier which allows bicycles (though forces rider to dismount) but prevents small vehicles and tricycles and any but the smallest motorcycles from passing. Also many cycle paths are in any case so ridiculously narrow that a substantial trike has no chance. Urban paths often share traffic light controlled crossings with footpaths and these again are often too narrow for a trike. Then there are the cycle paths
      • Re: (Score:3, Informative)

        My guess is that it will give Google access to the many urban streets which only allow taxis, public buses, emergency vehicles, and bicycles during the day. This is extremely common.

        I think you're correct there. For instance, most of Oxford Street (London) isn't on Streetview because it's buses/taxis/cycles only.
        They can also do public squares, pedestrian/cycling-only streets etc. They can even do no-cycling areas if they wheel the tricycle.

  • by wowbagger (69688) on Tuesday May 19 2009, @01:02PM (#28014641) Homepage Journal

    Actually, extending StreetView to things off the street makes sense to me, for certain values of "things off the street" - there's a few businesses and the like I'd like to see mapped.

    Example: I'd like to see my local zoo [scz.org] or one of our local museums [oldcowtown.org] set up so that I could use my GPS to find my way around - and being able to see some of the exhibits would be a bonus.

    If *I* ran those places, I'd be begging Google to scan my site!

  • by BiloxiGeek (872377) * on Tuesday May 19 2009, @01:12PM (#28014811)
    History has shown that the human leg is an often untapped behemoth of energy, having in the past powered generators, submarines and, of course, deep space hair dryers aboard Red Dwarf.

    Next thing you know they'll be reporting that Lister has been hired to peddle the thing around London. They tried to hire Cat but he was afraid being outside in the summer heat and humidity would ruin his fantastically perfect hairdo.
  • by lullabud (679893) on Tuesday May 19 2009, @01:17PM (#28014875) Homepage

    Regardless of whether Google is going to use Tricycles, they're not the first to market with this feature. http://www.mapjack.com/ [mapjack.com] already has many many trails mapped out, things that bicycles may even have a hard time on.

  • awesome. To the best of my knowledge, GPS's will show rivers, but if you are paddling on one, it won't give you a great ETA. Google Rivers, on the other hand, could record average current speed and all the bends in the river to a genuine geocoded object instead of a dumb jpeg. That would be pretty sweet.

  • Profit!!! (Score:4, Funny)

    by johnlcallaway (165670) on Tuesday May 19 2009, @01:30PM (#28015101)
    Just add some bells and a freezer and it can further add to Google revenue!!!
  • by HockeyPuck (141947) on Tuesday May 19 2009, @01:55PM (#28015459)

    Why is it ok in the public eye for google to do this, but when the gov't does this it's BigBrother and 1984 all over again?

  • by Kaz Riprock (590115) on Tuesday May 19 2009, @02:30PM (#28016011)

    I shall be twittering this with a sigh
    On someone's blogs and blogs hence:
    Two paths diverged in a wood, and I--
    I took the one less googled by,
    And that has made all the difference.

    --RFrostie1977

    • Re: (Score:3, Insightful)

      The bigger you are, the less rights you should be entitled to.

      I'm sorry...What!?

      That has to be the most retarded comment I've ever heard. No one should be limited to rights just because of how "Big" they are.

      • Re: (Score:3, Insightful)

        That has to be the most retarded comment I've ever heard. No one should be limited to rights just because of how "Big" they are.

        So what you are saying is that a monopoly shouldn't be regulated?
        Maybe you should rethink your position.

        The poster is asserting that what should be in-alienable rights for an individual at the individual level do not implicitly work at massive scales. The meaning of those rights transform as they scale up.

        I should be allowed to exhale carbon dioxide; nobody would ever dispute this.

    • by evanbd (210358) on Tuesday May 19 2009, @02:03PM (#28015579)

      I think rights should scale up. I really don't see a problem with that.

      Oh, I see, you seem to have drunk the kool-aid and accepted that corporations are people who have rights. That's where the fault lies in all your examples, not with any inductive scaling.

      All that said... in this particular example, I do want my house on Google. Or, to be specific, I want other people's houses on Google -- many times I've made use of the Street View pictures to see what my destination will look like. And I can see other people wanting the same when I give them directions to my house. And I don't mind the pictures being up, and I certainly don't intend to take up a hypocritical position on the matter.

      • I have a camera in my car at all times and I use it when I see something interesting, illegal or embarassing. That's legal. It's a public street. And the image isn't going to be stale either. So what's the difference?

        The scale. The scale is the difference. Your post is exactly the kind of argument that I object to.

        What you say is correct. It is legal for you to take a picture of my house, and many other house. It is legal for you post those pictures online. It is true that everyone else can legally do so t

    • Why they didn't buy a bunch of Segways for it, is beyond me.

      Trikes are cheaper to buy than Segways which start at $2,400.

      Trikes are cheaper to maintain than Segways.

      Trikes are easier to maintain than Segways since all you need is a regular bike mechanic that can be found in any good bike store.

      Segways require electrical power just to stand up, that kind of power costs money. Trikes don't use any power when standing up because they've got three wheels.

      Segways require electrical power to operate, trikes don't and hence have a lower carbon footprint.

      Segways have to be

    • Re: (Score:3, Insightful)

      Segways are always tilting forward and back. Bicycles are always tilting side to side. Trikes stay pretty level. That probably makes it easier to stitch together all the photos.
    • Re: (Score:3, Informative)

      One could even argue that not designing the project to allow disabled individuals to perform the work is job discrimination.

      I suppose one could, but one would be wrong. The job description is for someone to pedal this bike around so it can take pictures. Therefore, being able to pedal said bike is a Bona Fide Occupational Qualification (BFOQ). Your idea is interesting, but failing to implement it is not discriminatory on Google's part, at least not in any legally recognized way.