No. of vehicle license types I hold:
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or? (Score:4, Insightful)
I believe they mean car xor motorcycle.
Re:or? (Score:2)
Re:or? (Score:2)
Really hard to believe considering the vastly different way you have to operate either vehicle.
Re:or? (Score:3)
Re:or? (Score:2)
But you do get a complementary license for a 50cc motor bike with your car drivers license, no extra cost.
Re:or? (Score:2)
Re:or? (Score:3)
It's pronounced Throa-Warbler Mangrove.
Re:or? (Score:4, Informative)
Kansas if you are between the ages of 12 and 20 and are not accompanied by a licensed adult over the age of 18 or someone over 21 who are exempt. The exam is mostly about safety and very easy to pass.
Re:or? (Score:4, Informative)
In Australia, to use any powered water craft that travels at more than 10 knots, you require a license. (e.g., http://www.maritime.nsw.gov.au/rec_boating/boatingsafety.html [nsw.gov.au])
This applies in almost all states in Australia
LMGTFY (Score:4, Informative)
In Canada [boatsmartexam.com] you need one.
Alabama [boat-ed.com],arkansas [boat-ed.com], colorado [boat-ed.com], Connecticut [ct.gov], florida [boat-ed.com], georgia [boat-ed.com], Hawaii [hawaii.gov], illinois [boat-ed.com], indiana [boat-ed.com], iowa [boat-ed.com]
And that is just the A to I states.
Re:LMGTFY (Score:3)
Now, of course, your boat has to be registered with the numbers on it, but no one driving the boat ever had to have any official license to drive it ( like a car drivers license).
Re:LMGTFY (Score:2)
Hmm. I grew up in AR, and I didn't know anyone that had a "boat license". Not to drive a boat.
Yea, the legislature passed it in '06, I think. Just a couple years after Missouri passed a similar law.
That's Arkansas for ya - always having to expand on our brand of stupid, albeit a few years down the line...
Re:or? (Score:2)
Re:or? (Score:2)
Canada. [tc.gc.ca] Because drunken idiot boaters are at least as a dangerous as drunken, idiot drivers.
So... since I don't drink, does that mean I don't need a driver's license?
Re: or? (Score:2)
Re:or? (Score:3)
A clickable map of regulations for boats (disclaimer: this is my website)
http://www.amateurboatbuilding.com/articles/howto/regulations/amateur_world.html [amateurboatbuilding.com]
In France you need a river license or a coastal license or an offshore license for all power boats. Sailboats do not require a license.
Re:or? (Score:2)
Sorry I posted too quickly.
Powerboats with motors over 9.9hp on inland waters and motors over 6hp offshore.
Re:or? (Score:2)
Some states require it, others just have age restrictions in a tiered scheme based on HP.
i.e....
>10 yrs for 14 yrs for 16 yrs for >25 HP
Other states require taking a boater safety class, typically 8 hours in one or two sessions and coast guard approved, but no actual license from the state (i.e. road tax/water tax). Some states require a safety course for some bodies of water and a license (tax) for others. NJ is one example. The license (tax) simply requires taking a boater safety class and paying the tax at the DMV to get an endorsement noted on your drivers license. For tidal water (nearly every powerboat accessible waterway in the state) you just take a safety coast and when harassed by the Coast Guard, NJ state police, PA state police, DE state police, NJ rangers, PA rangers or DE rangers, show them the certificate and wait while they detain you for an hour fishing for anything they can conceivable tax you for. For non-tidal water that the enviro-nazis and socialists actually allow powerboat use on (Lake Hopatcong, and a couple very small lakes) you must pay the tax for get the boat endorsement at the DMV.
"Certificate", not "License" (Score:2)
Comment removed (Score:2)
Re:or? (Score:2)
What states require you to have a license for a boat or jet ski or other non-commercial water craft?
Missouri, if you were born after April 1st, 1984.
Stupid, I know. What's worse? They enacted the law in 2004, when most of the people born in 1984 were already 20 years old (read: legal adults). I thought they were joking, to be quite honest.
Which one is for TARDIS? (Score:2)
I'm a Time Lord, you insensitive clod!
Re:Which one is for TARDIS? (Score:5, Funny)
It's there. If you can't see it, you are clearly NOT a Time Lord...
Re:Which one is for TARDIS? (Score:2)
Psh. I stole the TARDIS. What makes you think I would bother having a license to fly it?
Ok, well then see you whenever (Score:3)
Something tells me you are going away for a long time. :)
Re:Which one is for TARDIS? (Score:2)
Please we know the TARDIS in fact stole you, Its completely clear who wares the pants Doctor and its not you.
Re:Which one is for TARDIS? (Score:2)
2, of any kind? (Score:5, Insightful)
Re:2, of any kind? (Score:5, Funny)
Re:2, of any kind? (Score:2)
An FAA license is in a computer somewhere. The certificate now fits in a standard sized wallet but the old one was large enough that it had to be folded.
Re:2, of any kind? (Score:2)
I carried my old paper license in my wallet until the lettering wore off. Thankfully I got a free replacement when they switched away from using ssn's as the license number.
Re:2, of any kind? (Score:2)
Re:2, of any kind? (Score:2)
Yeah, I'm thinking the people who hold air licenses and nothing for a car or other ground vehicle are very rare.
Re:2, of any kind? (Score:2)
When I was doing my flight training one of the instructors was a 17 year old kid who had gotten his CFI and hadn't gotten his drivers license yet. For the lessons he gave his mom or dad was driving him to the airport :).
His dad was also a flight instructor and I did about half my training with him and half with the son. I'm sure the kid was mostly just building hours for a planned career, but he was actually a good pilot and gave some different insight versus his dad.
Re:2, of any kind? (Score:2)
He may have been 18 but I could have sworn he was 17. I know for a fact that he was still in high school when I started my training. The examiner didn't see anything out of the ordinary when I took my checkride though.
Re:2, of any kind? (Score:2)
Re:2, of any kind? (Score:2)
Re:2, of any kind? (Score:2)
Re:2, of any kind? (Score:2)
Yeah. Obvious logic fail.
Re:2, of any kind? (Score:2)
I was thinking the same thing. In my case, an automobile driver license (land), and an FCC radio operator license (air).
Re:2, of any kind? (Score:3)
Two (Score:2)
actual, libertarian-approved response: (Score:2, Funny)
Re:On Licensure (Score:3)
Technicality (Score:2)
Re:Technicality (Score:4, Funny)
Aren't all licenses ground based?
All except GPL v3 and above.
None - Why should I need permission? (Score:5, Insightful)
Re:None - Why should I need permission? (Score:4, Funny)
I found the hipster!
Tell us about how you don't watch T.V.
Re:None - Why should I need permission? (Score:5, Insightful)
"OOP is an exceptionally bad idea which could only have originated in California" — Edsger Dijkstra
Shame he didn't pay a bit more attention: Alan Kay was in Utah (Salt Lake City) when he came up with the idea.
Re:None - Why should I need permission? (Score:3)
Same here. The city is relatively compact, with good public transportation networks (subway, tramway, bus) and owning a car is optional. Of course, many people do own cars but I simply see no good reason to add to all the pollution.
Re:None - Why should I need permission? (Score:2)
Not necessarily a hipster, just someone who doesn't live in the USA. Here it's much easier to get around with a bike than a car and given the difference in cost, there's no real incentive to own a car. I've never got a driving license because owning a car has never seemed useful anywhere that I've lived.
Nah, a real hipster would have bragged about not owning a TV without being prompted.
Here's a question for you: What do you think of the concept of requiring bicycle operators to get a license before allowing them to ride on public streets? Personally, I like it, since it puts them on more of an equal footing with automobile operators, at least in the legal sense.
Re:None - Why should I need permission? (Score:2)
Here's a question for you: What do you think of the concept of requiring bicycle operators to get a license before allowing them to ride on public streets? Personally, I like it, since it puts them on more of an equal footing with automobile operators, at least in the legal sense.
I wouldn't object to it, but I'd be much more in favour of extending the requirement that drivers wanting to use the public highway must have third-party liability insurance (apparently this isn't a requirement in the US?) to cyclists. The main purpose of needing a license for a car is that you can easily cause serious injury to others if you drive badly. This is less of a concern for cyclists, but it is still relatively easy to cause an accident that will cause property damage (for example, getting hit by a car when it's your fault), and an uninsured cyclist may well not be able to afford the repairs.
To be honest, I'd rather that the police would just enforce the existing laws. I see people cycling without lights at night and / or going through red lights quite regularly. If they stood a better chance of being hit with fine, they'd be far less likely to indulge in behaviour likely to cause accidents. Mind you, this applies equally to the idiots who decide that they have to overtake me because I'm riding a bike, even though the speed of the traffic is under 20 miles per hour and end up cutting diagonally back in front of me and forcing me to break to avoid hitting the side of their car...
Re:None - Why should I need permission? (Score:2)
I wouldn't object to it, but I'd be much more in favour of extending the requirement that drivers wanting to use the public highway must have third-party liability insurance (apparently this isn't a requirement in the US?)
Varies from state to state. I know my state, MO, requires it, but LA does not (which makes me never want to drive in Louisiana. EVER.)
But yea, I do like that idea - it makes sense.
Which means it'll probably never happen.
Re:None - Why should I need permission? (Score:2)
Limited options (Score:5, Insightful)
Why are the "2" options all either "all ground" or "all non-ground"?
I've got a drivers license (car) and a PPL-ASEL (plane) which doesn't fit into any other categories. I own a boat but boat operation isn't a licensed activity in my state.
Do high-power model rockets count? (Score:3)
My NAR certification card does say "membership license" on it...:)
Re:Do high-power model rockets count? (Score:2)
If you need a license to fly the things - then I'd say yes.
No-where the poll implies that it's got to be a license for a vehicle that you sit on/in.
The licensing is similar to SCUBA diving..... (Score:2)
in that it isn't handled by a government agency, but private organizations. In the US, HPR certification can be obtained through the National Association of Rocketry (NAR), or the Tripoli Rocketry Association (TRA).
Like SCUBA diving, you will have a difficult time finding suppliers who will sell you certain critical supplies/equipment without seeing your credentials. For HPR, the controlled items are the rocket motors themselves. Any motors larger than a "G" class require high power certification to purchase/launch.
Because of the large area needed to launch these things, launches are generally large, regular events sponsored by rocket clubs, who handle the interactions with actual government agencies which are required (airspace waiver from FAA). You are generally required to present your certification before launching anything with a G or larger motor in it.
One ground, one air (Score:2)
None of the above, in other words...
I have a license for driving cars (British Columbia class 5) and a license for flying airplanes (PPL). I'm working on my commercial license.
In Canada a pilots license is a little booklet that looks like a passport. Your license, ratings and medical, all in one document.
...laura
I wish I could say "none" (Score:5, Interesting)
In the United States, at least, having a drivers license is no indication that you know the basic rules of the road, anything about traffic laws, ability to operate a vehicle, or possession of basic common sense.
Drivers licenses exist, at this point, exclusively to track and catalog every member of our society. And I don't like it.
Re:I wish I could say "none" (Score:3)
you know the basic rules of the road, anything about traffic laws
Not going to say anything about the other two, but I think that most people who have a license do at least know the rules/laws related to driving. Willingness to follow them at the expense of getting somewhere a couple minutes later or being unable to stay connected to their friends for the duration of the trip is another thing entirely.
Re:I wish I could say "none" (Score:5, Interesting)
Re:I wish I could say "none" (Score:2, Funny)
Re:I wish I could say "none" (Score:5, Interesting)
Re:I wish I could say "none" (Score:3)
If so, it's been dumbed down considerably since I took it in the late '60s. I think that the first step down that slippery slope was having drivers parallel park between plastic posts, not real cars, because how you judge when to start your turn isn't the same as in Real Life. As far as the written test goes, I don't know. The last few times I've had to renew, I was told that I didn't have to take it because my record was clean. I think that this started in the '90s, because before that I always had to take the written test even though I never got any tickets.
Re:I wish I could say "none" (Score:3)
That's funny. Every single thing you list as lacking I had to do for my driver's test--in real traffic, and the written, just like you, was one on a computer, including the braking distances.
In terms of accidents, the UK is indeed the best, but Canada, the US, and most of northern Europe are right up there, too. You just don't want to get caught driving in Turkey or Egypt, where the chances of death are astronomically higher.
Re:I wish I could say "none" (Score:5, Insightful)
I didn't have to do any reversing,
That's because we don't do "reversing" here, we "back up". :-)
But I hear ya. It's hard to expect kids to be taught about braking distances in a country that doesn't require one to be able to read and write in any language (let alone English) in order to vote. Requiring literacy and knowledge is racist, fascist, imperialist, elitist, and several other ists as well.
Re:I wish I could say "none" (Score:2)
Or not. The problem on the roads where I see the most tailgating is that there simply isn't enough space for drivers to maintain recommended tailing distance at the common driving speed. Instead, the drivers have learned to reduce their tailing distance and watch more than one car ahead, which works remarkably well. The number of accidents is actually pretty small when you consider the number of vehicle miles driven.
Re:I wish I could say "none" (Score:2)
Re:I wish I could say "none" (Score:2)
When I got my second (WA, USA) I had to do a paper (well, computer) test but no road test. It did kinda weird me out at the time, but I'm guessing that since most people drive pretty much continuously after getting their license it would mostly irritate people to have to re-demonstrate skills they've already got. At least, that's how I rationalized it.
But yeah - I agree that the test isn't nearly as tough as it ought to be.
Re:I wish I could say "none" (Score:2)
Strange choices (Score:2)
1. What do you select for one terrestrial and one non-terrestrial license?
2. Motorcycle license in US is not a separate document. It's an endorsement on the general purpose driving license, just like certain other types of heavier vehicles etc.
3. There is no "boat license" in general in US for recreational boating. Some states started requiring "safe boating" course from younger operators in recent years, but that's by no means universal. Aside from that, anyone can get as big a boat as they can afford and sail right on, no documents needed, as long as they don't do it "for hire" or carry passengers.
Re:Strange choices (Score:2)
Re:Strange choices (Score:3)
Re:Strange choices (Score:3)
Re:Strange choices (Score:2)
Former Naval Officer here,
The Officer of the Watch (or Officer of the Deck for the USN) must indeed know their rules of the road, even when manuevering around other warships!
They are the bread and butter of the Seaman Officer.
Re:Strange choices (Score:2)
Hope you are not suggesting this really happened: http://www.snopes.com/military/lighthouse.asp [snopes.com]
Bike, Bus, Train, Walk, Carpool (Score:3)
I'm 31, have lived in Southern California my whole life, and have yet to get a driver's license let alone a personal auto.
It weirds some people out and they just can't believe it's possible.
Re:Bike, Bus, Train, Walk, Carpool (Score:5, Insightful)
Same age, south of the UK here. People are amazed when I turn up having cycled four miles. Apparently I must be "super-fit!" Four whole miles.
Re:Bike, Bus, Train, Walk, Carpool (Score:2)
Why in the world wouldn't you change clothes? I bike 5 miles to and from work and I have two bike bags for all my stuff-- one holds all my clothes, deodorant, etc. and the other holds my locks and repair tools (most frequently used to help other cyclists). On the hot days (remember-- I live in Southern California), I can build up a small sweat on the way to the office, so I cruise for the last mile and try to sit upright to get as much breeze as possible. I go to the restroom to change, rinse off my face and head with cold water, towel off any remaining sweat, and apply deodorant. I then unroll my clothes, put them on, and stuff my rider clothes in the same bag.
Then I walk into the office.
Now, asking a cyclist to commute with 78 lbs. of tools because you're on call 24/7 is a bit disingenuous. No one suggests that *everyone's* career allows them to cycle to and from work. Anyone on-call or who needs to carry around massive amounts of weight is not going to find cycling a part of their regular or expected commute.
Re:Bike, Bus, Train, Walk, Carpool (Score:2)
Re:Bike, Bus, Train, Walk, Carpool (Score:2)
p.s. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vzViPBuH_Dc [youtube.com]
Re:Bike, Bus, Train, Walk, Carpool (Score:2)
Re:Bike, Bus, Train, Walk, Carpool (Score:2)
Definitely true. Such is why it's particularly saddening when I don't see my regular fellow commuter cyclists on days when a drizzle is predicted or when temperatures drop to a "frigid" 7C.
None - I'm a "terrorist" ... (Score:5, Interesting)
I walk, bike, or bus. My choice depends upon the distance or the weather. As an added bonus, I do so in a city that is downright hostile to non-motorists.
I have seen others who don't drive referred to as terrorists, so I guess I must be a terrorist too.
Re:None - I'm "undocumented" (Score:2)
The country my parents brought me to, the country I grew up in, won't allow me to have any official documents.
That's called being a 'criminal,' not 'undocumented.'
Well, OK, maybe 'undocumented criminal.'
There is a fix for that issue, you know.
I guess all of mine are ground based. (Score:2)
2. Western Australian Motor Vehicle Driver Instructor License (MVDIL, I teach others how not to kill themselves behind the wheel).
3. Category B and H firearms licenses.
Re:I guess all of mine are ground based. (Score:2)
Vehicle is defined as either a means of transporting people and/or goods, or "a thing used to express, embody, or fulfill something" (couldn't paraphrase that one).
Thus, as a firearm is used to transport a bullet from the cartridge to the target, as well as being a thing used to fulfill something, I think 'vehicle' is a perfectly appropriate term.
Not in context of this poll, but universally (yea, I'm being a pedant. Boredom has that effect).
License to Ill (Score:2)
Like 'Ma Bell, I got the Ill Communication.
I hold 2 (Score:2)
Not complaining, just commenting...
4 licenses. QLD Australia splits them up a bit. (Score:2)
Queensland Australia
Motorcycle Unrestricted (no HP or capacity limit)
Vehicle up to 4.5 tonne gvm (basically Car) unrestricted (means I can drive turbo or v8s etc)
Boat
MR - Medium rigid - Over 8 Tonnes but only 2 axles.
Used to have more (Score:2)
At one time I had amateur and commercial radio licenses and was also licensed to operate 35 mm movie projectors. Wanted to get the commercial radiotelegraphy license but that meant spending 2 years at sea first.
None of those are vehicle licenses, though... (Score:2)
Similarly, I have an amateur radio license, and am also a licensed electrician in my state. But those don't involve vehicles....
Conjunction Fallacy? (Score:2)
Re:Conjunction Fallacy? (Score:2)
None, although... (Score:2)
One (Score:2)
Non-terrestrial, vacuum only. Licensed for interstellar use only.
None! (Score:2)
I have disabilities so I can't drive. :(
Re:None? (Score:2)
Re:Heavy vehicles? (Score:2)
Depends on the state, but there are generally at least two additional endorsements; One is for school busses and the like, called an "Intermediate License," and the other is for "combinations" called a "CDL" that entitles you drive semis (tractor + trailer(s)).
Motorcycle licenses used to be a single license, then they changed it based on cc's of the engine so that a license for a 55cc would not qualify you to drive a 1200cc, but this was changed back to a single license when the stats showed it didn't make any difference.