Mozilla 0.9.3 Released

nexex writes: "Shamelessly ripped from Mozilla.org, "Talkback data shows that recent 0.9.2 branch builds are more stable than Netscape 4.78 and we expect even better results for 0.9.3. Now is the time to try Mozilla again if you've been waiting for stability to improve." Translation: Mozilla is better than ever. Get your copy here."

coolfeatures

[BroadbandBradley]

text sizing:
CTRL+
Or
CTRL-
to enlarge text or make it smaller. great feature
Keywords:
edit bookmarks, pick a bookmark and pick properties, add a keyword. say 'sd' for slashdot.org. then type in the location box (ctrl L gets you focused on the location box) type sd and hit enter, you'll be whisked away to slashdot.org.
SideBar Tabs:
A great way to have quick acces to web tools like mapquest or an online dictionary. see the sidebar directory at:http://dmoz.org/Netscape/Sidebar/ [dmoz.org]

Does this affect galeon? [STUPID NEWBIE QUESTION]

[Anonymous Coward]

If i have a recent version of Galeon.. and i download this new Mozilla.. will i have to download a new version of Galeon for it to work with Mozilla 0.9.3? Or will the html rendering bits magically fit together, and stuff, as one would hope they would? Just making sure.

(This is just hypothetical, since i never got around to getting Galeon to *compile*, because Galeon wants versions of the Gnome libraries 0.0.1 better than the version i have installed.. and i can't seem to figure out how to tell apt-get to get those updated libraries for me without upgrading all the way to Woody.. and compiling is slow. But i am curious. Mozilla 0.8.x and Netscape 4 just too slow to be usable on my poor old 75-mhz macintosh 7200, and 0.8.x crashed a *lot*, and it would be nice to have something to use regularly other than w3m. :) )

Oh, whatever. Thanks!

Re:galeon

[Balinares]

Actually, yes, I've been giving it a try [sourceforge.net] too.
Well: it /rocks/.
What's funny is that Galeon points out both Mozilla's biggest strength and, IMHO, its biggest weakness. Its strength is a smart API, that you can use to embed Mozilla into applications. It's how Komodo [activestate.com] works, for instance. If IE wasn't commingled (such a nice word... :)) into Windows as a widget control, you could probably replace the IE HTML engine with Mozilla's in that widget. It would be neat.
But Mozilla also has a feature that can count as a weakness: it has its own interface toolkit. It doesn't use Qt nor GTK nor anything of the like: it comes with its own thing. Unless I got it completely wrong, of course, which is also a possibility. :) The good thing is that it looks the same everywhere. The bad thing, well, is that it makes it a more bloated piece of code. Gaelon, on the other hand, uses the Mozilla rendering engine in a GTK browser; it could be what makes it noticeably faster than Mozilla, and it's most probably what makes it lighter.
But enough ranting! I use Konqueror, Mozilla, Gaelon or w3m, all four of them, depending on my mood, and I've never been so happy about the freedom of choice that comes with free(-speech) software! :)

It's the little things...

[Anonymous Coward]

Okay, all you Microsoftophobes can flame me if you like, but I'm running IE 5.5 on Win98. After reading this article, I decided to d/l Mozilla. It runs okay, and I haven't had it crash on me yet... but it's the little things that I miss (and maybe these can be fixed).

I like being able to use my mouse wheel to scroll, but I never realized how much I hold down the mouse wheel to quickly scroll to the top. I couldn't do it on Mozilla. Also, I missed being able to hit ENTER after typing in my user name and password on Hotmail and YahooMail. Little gripes, I know, but I may find more. I do like the Modern Skin, though... looks a lot better than IE....

Re:that strange history problem/bug?

[Blind RMS Groupie]

"..where if i go to google. and then click on a choice after searching, sometimes it'll try to access that page in the google.com domain. IOW: it'll just tack the path on the end of the present domain name."

I've seen that problem, too. Sometimes I'll click on a link and Mozilla will try to load something from it's history list instead. I first noticed this problem in a 0.9.2+ nightly and it remains in 0.9.3, which I've just downloaded and tried. I have not seen it in 0.9.2 and it is so annoying that I plan to stick with 0.9.2 for the time being.

Getting closer...

[riggwelter]

This is good news (and on the same day as beta 2 of Evolution - who said the Linux desktop was dead?)

I use Galeon, but until there's a Moz 0.9.3 optimised release I've decided to use Moz again for a while, and I honestly can't get over how much faster this release is to start and to render than 0.9.2!

Also seems to be using less memory (based on my unscientific approach of looking at my bubblemon_applet) which has to be a good thing.

It's also nice to be able to upgrade version without it killing my chromes. Even skypilot is running fast.

So, the race is on - what'll reach 1.0 first, Mozilla or Evolution? :)

Re:What about the *mailer*?

[Delirium Tremens]

Call me crazy, but I have been using Mozilla as my main Mailer since last December. Apart from a few quirks, I am extremely pleased with my choice. So far, Mozilla has been succesfully managing my every day life, with 20-30 outgoing emails, 150-200 incoming emails and some mail folders containing hundreds and thousands of messages.
But the most awesome feature is definitely Mozilla's ability to use multiple profiles, either IMAP, POP or local folders. When you used to be stuck in one single profile with NS4.xx, this is definitely a blast!
I used to run the Mozilla nightlies, but 2 months ago I decided to stick to the Netscape 6.1 branch because the Netscape 6.1 mailer comes with a spell check. Very comfortable feature, especially when English is not your mother tongue or when your religion forbids you to use the MSOffice suite.
The only two things that I treally miss in the Mozilla/Netscape6.1 mailer are:

• Encryption support for PGP, GPG, SMIME, or whatever ... I don't care which one. I'll use the first that makes it into the build (yeah, I would definitely switch back to the nightlies if they had encryption support)
• I want to be able to embed remote URL document in my mails as a reference, not as a mime-encoded object. Especially images. That's Bug 59535 [mozilla.org] for those who want to know, or vote!

No spellchecking (yet)

[abischof]

Mozilla doesn't currently have spellchecking (it used to be that you could install Netscape 6's spellchecking into Mozilla, but that no longer works [mozilla.org]). So, if you're interested in spellchecking, please vote for [mozilla.org] bug 56301 [mozilla.org] (of course, you'll need a free Bugzilla account [mozilla.org] to vote).

Try Galeon or SkipStone!

[gmz]

Yeah, on my P5@200MHz, Mozilla is *slow*. I don't have IE, but if you want a fast browser on UNIX, try Galeon or SkipStone [muhri.net]; they both use Mozilla's embedded rendering component, and esp. the latter is nearly as fast as Lynx (really! ;)

No Bank Access!! Argh!!

[Preylude]

The only real thing stopping me from using Mozilla as a primary browser is its lack of support for secure connections. It simply won't connect to some bank and credit card sites.

I'll give it some credit. It now works (more or less) with my my two most frequently accessed accounts. But still, one of my primary bank accounts won't let me log in

What annoyed me most was reading the comments on the related bugs. Developers saying that ABC Webserver doesn't support the exact SSL specification here or there. That's life! Slight incompatibilities exist all over the internet. You have to work around them. Emailing the webmaster and having them upgrade their software is NOT the bug fix. Patch, kludge and work around the problem, please! Then, I can start using Mozilla instead of dumbass NS 4.78746372...

Interesting bug

[wiredog]

Mozilla requires glibc 2.1 or later. (Bug 44787)

The question is, why is this called a bug? It seems that requiring glibc 2.1 is fairly common in other programs. Library dependencies are normal, as later versions have APIs that earlier ones lacked, and expected. (Also, annoying if you are not warned, but here we are)

So, why is a dependency a bug?

As a professional web developer...

[disc-chord]

I cringe every time I read one of these storys. We have already had a browser war, let us not have a second one... or god help me, I will take hostages this time. Seriously though guys, what is the need for this program to exsist other than to cause new problems and incompatibilites? I don't think Mozilla will ever be a widely accepted browser that I will have to write pages that are compatible with it, but if these attempts to make the "Uber-Browser" continue eventually someone will pull it off. Then we (web developers) will need to start supporting it, which will cause M$ to become even more aggressive in the browser market. Perhaps those of you so intent on making browsers could find something else to make that we don't need.

OT: i want the /. mozilla logo for a T-Shirt

[Xiphoid Process]

Does anyone know where I can find a higher resolution, or (hopefully) a vector based version of that pic? I think it would look so damned kick ass on a t-shirt, that and the commie-moz-star...