Solaris 9 Will Be Updated WIth Gnome 2.0 374
JAZ writes: "According to this article, 'The newest version of the GNOME open source desktop will not be ready in time to ship with Solaris 9 next year, but it will be included with a subsequent Solaris 9 quarterly update ...' Go Gnome!" I wonder if anyone truly prefers CDE.
Yes, I Prefer CDE... (Score:4, Interesting)
Try XFCE (Score:4, Interesting)
Re:GNOME 2.0 (Score:2, Interesting)
Did they consider KDE? (Score:4, Interesting)
I can't speak for myself...... (Score:5, Interesting)
Re:GNOME is dead (Score:1, Interesting)
I'm not all for the registry, but please, if you're going to make such outrageous statements, give some points, please!
As a regular Solaris user (Score:5, Interesting)
FWIW, I actually use OpenWindows as my desktop (oh, the horror, the horror!) and along with olvwm, it does its job and stays out of the way. All my real work is done with xterms, gcc/cc, emacs (so go on, flame me) and custom astronomy software. If you ever had the misfortune to use AIPS [nrao.edu], you'd be into B&D too.
With Linux (and gnome) on my laptop and on our newer production machines, I just don't know: it looks (and feels) clunky. What 5 year old drew those ugly icons? Even with the "tiny icons" on my laptop Gnome toolbar, the only icon I actually like is the simple red star of Mozilla. And my work is all at the command line, I don't use icons! But I still can't convince Gnome, even with repeated "Save settings," that I'd rather not have an icons for /dev/fd0 and /dev/hda cluttering my desktop. Non-intuitive, hard to learn (this from an OpenWindows user!!) and ugly: is there any reason for Sun to switch to Gnome besides saving development costs?
I, for one, am not impressed.
Re:Try XFCE (Score:3, Interesting)
As for whether or not it's inclusion is a big deal, it absolutely is. Having Sun adopt your product is a very serious endorsement, and will lead to industry wide acceptance. (Another poster already mentioned that HP was looking to include it in the next HP-UX release.)
What is interesting to me is the fact that Solaris will not be including KDE by default, even though most would concede that it is a more mature, and more polished product. I have to conclude that this "snub" is related to the Trolltech Qt licencing...
Early in the KDE v Gnome debate, the Gnome folks stated that the Qt licencing issues would be KDE's undoing. While KDE continues to improve, it may never find it's way onto the installation CDs of the commercial *nixes.
Anyone read that differently?
Re:GNOME 2.0 (Score:0, Interesting)
So let's say they do what you say (make enhancements to improve usability that is). Then how would they release the changes? Hmmm... make a new version, perhaps? You don't think they just keep releasing the same code with new version numbers, do you?
BTW, the reason why the next version is GNOME 2.0 instead of GNOME 1.6 is because it will be using GTK+ 2. This follows the same convention as KDE, which jumped from 1.1 to 2.0 because (among other reasons) it was based on Qt 2.
Re:GNOME is dead (Score:1, Interesting)
it generates a lot of subdirectories for e.g. nautilus.. over 40 subdirectories containing around 50-80 %gconf.xml files. now if you instalkl 20-30 apps then its a waste of space. not to mention that you cant maintain that shit anymore. oki i know you can write your own 1 milion backends for gconf but it doesnt change the fact that its fucked up system. no real usability for the enduser.
the gnome community usually aruguments with 'the normal enduser wont want to know that' but hell i never have seen that ENDUSER everyone involved in LINUX and GNOME has brain about the system otherwise he never gets it running. GNOME has turned into a useless piece of junk a lot of companies programmed their OWN ideas into GNOME and some of them went bancrupcy and remaining is only useless code. e.g. nautilus. permanent little tweaks but NO real enchancements because the gnome developers cant handle it. RED HAT is overtaking that project since no one else gives a fuck. the usability team behind GNOME are brainless morons nothing special. i know each of them.. well i am no troll and i dont like KDE myself but hey they ROADMAP for KDE is better, their implementation in KDE is better. write one plugin and use it in all other apps. we have this in gnome NOW named BONOBO but hey we have 200 apps for gnome now and only 10 are using BONOBO i really doubt that with GNOME 2.0 everyone will ever move to GCONF or make their app PLUGINABLE.. things look different on KDE..
Excited for Gnome 2.0 (Score:2, Interesting)
Anyone know how far off this really is?
Re:Who USES Solaris? (Score:4, Interesting)
In fact, after a visit to sunfreeware.com, Solaris feels pretty much like Linux
GNOME isn't fast (Score:2, Interesting)
Now I'm running KDE 2.2 on the box, and it's really snappy.
My only complaint is really slow opaque window dragging, but that's really Sun's fault, for somehow deciding not to include pixel-copy hardware 2D acceleration in their Creator3D framebuffers. (a strange reason why for some things, SunRay thin-clients feel faster at graphics) Anyone know if other newer Sun framebuffers fix this lack of feature?
Re:No, YOU are wrong (Score:2, Interesting)