Non-Apple Buttonless Mouse 216
MX pointed us to a story about a
new buttonless mouse. It's visually quite unique, but they say it's not the ideal gaming device for you real-time-gaming folks. But hey, points for style. I've been using this
optical cordless logitech (Blatant ThinkGeek linkage) on my desktop for awhile, although I'm not sure how well it'd work for gaming. When I play, I still use a MS Optical mouse. Whatever anyone thinks about their business practices and operating systems, they sure seem to always sell good mice.
Tanks (Score:2, Interesting)
All hail the wheel... (Score:1)
Re:All hail the wheel... (Score:1)
Brain: I want to scroll down.
Hand: Alrighty, Brain!
Brain: I don't see any scrolling. I think I'm going to cry.
These buttonless mice look pretty spiffy, but I can't imagine using one to play Quake! I'm SO rough with my mouse [logitech.com]. It's so comfy!
Re:All hail the wheel... (Score:2)
ALL the time, and practically EVERY time I've got a non-wheel mouse in my hand. I never thought that such a little addition could be so addictive. The first time I was with one, I found it a bit of a nusance. Not 1 day later I had a "normal" mouse in my hand, and found myself rubbing the mouse where the wheel shoud've been.
I ran into the samething with the M$ Natural Keyboards. There was one sitting around the office that no one wanted to use. I figured "what the hell" and tried it. I yelled at that thing for 2 days straight. I finally got fed up enough and put a "normal" keyboard back on my box. I couldn't use it! After that, I plugged the Natural back in and ordered one for home. I've been using a Natural ever since. That was like 2 years ago. ( I HATE the cursor keys on the newer Naturals, but ALL pain in my wrists totally went away after using the Natural. I think that out-weighs a bit of annoyance (and a few extra times of getting fragged...
Re:All hail the wheel... (Score:2)
Re:All hail the wheel... (Score:1)
Re:All hail the wheel... (Score:1)
Re:All hail the wheel... (Score:2)
Well, I'll be darned. It doesn't have that pic for any of the other countries, though the German page has a picture of a scantily-clad man and woman lounging under an ad for their iFeel Optical. Verrry subtle.
keyless keyboard (Score:2, Funny)
MS mice (Score:2, Insightful)
Personally, I've never understood why people are so obsessed with MS mice. There's nothing wrong with them, although I think the ergonomics are sometimes designed for show rather than use. But when Logitech discontinued the Pilot mouse, I went out and bought a whole bunch. I've yet to find anything better. MS mice, and newer Logitech mice all lack a full size middle button, and those with wheels impede the use of the middle button. I've never understood why wheel mice didn't have a traditional three button layout with the wheel on the side, being thumb operated...
Re:MS mice (Score:5, Interesting)
So I agree with Taco - MS can make a sweet mouse.
Re:MS mice (Score:3, Insightful)
Re:MS mice (Score:2, Interesting)
If I really need to scroll far. I'll just use the scroll bar.
I find it no more unatural than moving the cursor over to the scroll bar, or uisng the page down key.
What kind of mouse did you have? The MS one I have, has a very easy to turn wheel. I have noticed that some are quite clicky/sticky/hard. And I could understand getting CTS if you were using one of them.
My only complaint about the MS Explorer mouse is that it's too damn bulky. It's not something I realised untill I started to use it. I never used to rest my hand on the mouse. Just grip it with my fingers. The ergonomics can get in the way some times because they must expect you to rest your whole hand on it.
Re:MS mice (Score:1)
I've never yet found a use for a wheel on a mouse, so I'd have to raise my hand at this point...
Re:MS mice (Score:2)
And yes - having shortcut keys is really useful.
Cheers,
Toby Haynes
Re:MS mice (Score:2)
For some tricks you need to make use of utilities like XMMS Pipe to fire commands at XMMS from hotkeys. That way you can bind a key like VolumeUp to a command to send a message to XMMS to raise the volume. Similar tricks can be used with other players (like cymbaline which isn't pretty but has random album play).
Cheers,
Toby Haynes
usability not so great (Score:2)
Now, about those Windows shortcut keys, if you want to use them in Linux, there is nothing stopping you. You can bind them to whatever kind of menu, modifier, or action you want.
Re:MS mice (Score:2, Interesting)
Re:MS mice (Score:2, Interesting)
Speak for yourself. I have the logitech cordless optical that taco was talking about, and it's fantastic. I had to turn the sensitivity way down because it is so fine-grained, whereas with my ms mouse I had to turn it way up. it never jumps on me, and the resolution is fantastic. I bought some rechargable NiMH batteries, and I have to say that with those it's almost the perfect mouse. The only problem I have with it is that the buttons are too close together, so I can't have 3 fingers on top. but since I usually only use the wheel for reload/zoom/changing weapons, and that in linux the thumb button also maps to B3, it's great.
Re:MS mice (Score:1)
Re:MS mice (Score:1)
Re:MS mice (Score:3, Interesting)
Re:MS mice (Score:2)
Anybody know if the Logitech optical mouses work with the desktops without a seperate reciever? All the keyboards and mice I have "bind" to a reciever, and can then be used in the same room, and can be swapped back and forth (rebind them to a new reciever by hitting connect on both the device and receiever) with no problem. No interference, no crosstalk. These are truely well built pieces of hardware.
--
Evan
wheel/middle button (Score:1)
My favorite mouse ever was my Logitech Series 9 [lehigh.edu], which went into spasms and had to be removed from service. I plan to replace its guts with a wheel mouse some day, giving it every feature I want.
Re:MS mice (Score:1)
Re:MS mice (Score:1)
Help desk (Score:4, Funny)
Helpdesk: Lean left.
User: What, the buttons are in the seat now?
Helpdesk: No, lean the mouse left.
User: But how do I move it around then?
Helpdesk: Er...put it back.
User: What if I have to click and drag?
Helpdesk: Hang on, let me just open up a hardware service ticket.
Not enough memory ... (Score:4, Funny)
Hehe,it seems their webserver is running on a mouse, too
Having looked at the mouse... (Score:3, Insightful)
Mice and gaming. (Score:5, Insightful)
Yeah you definately wouldn't want to be using a mouse like that for gaming. In fact, even using an optical mouse isn't a good thing if you are competing at the world level.
What you will find if you look into the Pro gamer community (this might sound like I'm kidding, but it really exists: http://www.shackes.com) is that most of them do not like optical mice. They simply don't have high enough sampling rate in most cases. If you turn fast enough with an optical then tend to freak out for a second resulting in your player staring at the floor or sky and spinning. Also, the movements and physics of using an optical are somewhat different. For instance the 'flick' motion that a lot of players have mastered doesn't translate well to an optical.
Opticals are nice because of their longevity, and low maintenance, but if you're seriuos then ball is still king.
Re:Mice and gaming. (Score:2, Interesting)
Re:Mice and gaming. (Score:4, Interesting)
The obvious consequence of this is a sharp flick to the right or left which leads to a Quake 3 character staring at the ground for no apparent reason, and subsequent death and loss of the competition. This can be compensated for with extremely, and I mean extremely, high sensitivity, in the order such that 0.5 cm corresponds to your screen resolution in terms of a desktop.
However, that being said, the human user does not have the physical coordination to operate at that level. As such, until optical resolutions are significantly higher, users of track balls and ball mice will have superior granularity and better correspondence between the expected behavior of the hardware and the actual behaviour of the hardware, irregardless of the skill, training, and habits of the users.
The advantage is in the correspondence between expected behaviour and actual behaviour, it being much better with track balls and ball mice (which are optical, but in a different way) than it is with optical mice.
(Just a note - have a look at trackball patterns; it is not a uniform pattern but a miss-mash pattern with form following function)
Having been one of, and knowing some of, the better Unreal Tournament players in my time, the differences, in not playability but infinitisemal advantages that lead to domination over a long enough time period, are well known and examined. Optical mice do not require a very long time period to assert their inferiority.
Re:Mice and gaming. (Score:2)
Indeed, it seems that Logitech has attempted to deal with this by using 2 lasers as in the MouseMan (R) Dual Optical [logitech.com], although I could only speculate at the success of this technique.
Re:Mice and gaming. (Score:1)
Re:Mice and gaming. (Score:1, Interesting)
More importantly Microsoft mice are overpriced turds. I can't believe all the people in here praising it. If you just read through some of the posts right now you can see how many people have said they've had them break, yet they were happy to get replacements everytime. These mice shouldn't break within two or three years. The teflon feet on Microsoft mouse are pitiful is well. After some hardcore gaming you can fully wear them out in half a year, which really affects the movement. Microsofts in particular do have shoddy construction. A pathetic plastic shell, with no feeling/weight, and a poor shape when compared to logitechs.
You are clueless and apparently most people in here have not been accustomed to pro gaming. Unless of course they are playing counterstrike. Opticals are used there often, because moving the mouse isn't really required to play that game.
Microsoft's mice (Score:4, Interesting)
I replaced the hideous 'pebble' supplied with my iMac with an MS optical wheel mouse, it's probably the best £30 I've spent on computing kit.
The Classic MacOS drivers for the extra button and scrolly wheel work without incident and MacOSX has support built in.
my thoughts exactly. (Score:3, Insightful)
i say the same about nike [nikeworkers.org]. who cares if small asian children work 16 hours a day for almost nothing-they sure make good shoes. really though it's called having principles. if you think a company is bad, for whatever reason, you shouldnt do business with that company-not just the part of the company you disagree with.
mod me down if you want, but i personally dont appreciate the hypocrisy.
Re:my thoughts exactly. (Score:1, Insightful)
Re:my thoughts exactly. (Score:5, Insightful)
WHOA! How about a little perspective, huh? Is Microsoft doing anything on the level of exploiting third-world children? Sure, they've been convicted of operating an illegal monopoly, but the only folks that got hurt were those trying to sell software of their own. Is this the principle you are trying to follow - fair competition in a regulated market? Does that mean your principles lead you to buy third-party software? Or is your principle that software should be free, and thus you don't care about those other businesses that were shut out? I must admit, I'm not sure what you are talking about, and I can't wrap my brain around any principle that lumps Microsoft's "business practices and operating systems" with Nike's treatment of third-world workers. Or, are you commenting that Nike's new initiatives to help third-world workers are comparable to Microsoft's new initiatives to fix security problems?
Personally, I'm quite happy about Microsoft's business practices - they resulted in cheap PCs (every PC didn't have to meet IBM's specs, just Microsoft's) and angry programmers, which directly resulted in the Linux operating system. Linux may be putting a free operating system in every computer, but Microsoft put those computers on people's desks - they are like the ugly booster rockets that put the shuttle in orbit.
BTW, horrible link to NIKEWORKERS.ORG. Like your comments, it assumes everything (that you agree that Nike exploits third-world workers) and explains nothing (no examples of Nike's exploitation). In fact, the only stories in the ABOUT section were old articles about paid endorsers that didn't know about the problems, and the only links in the NEWS section were about Reebok! This [nikewages.org] would have been a better link.
Re:my thoughts exactly. (Score:1)
he says it right here:
btw, nicely assembled troll. You should meet these [yahoo.com] guys [yahoo.com]. (See what I mean here [yahoo.com].)
ruh roh... (Score:1)
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Re:ruh roh... (Score:1)
"They should really use RealMedia by Sierra Online instead of Quicktime made by ID Software..."
cross refrencing sneaky advertising? (Score:1)
the more than obvious ones, the 'here's an OSDN link'
is it me, or is this a new thing? we all know
Re:cross refrencing sneaky advertising? (Score:1)
Re:cross refrencing sneaky advertising? (Score:1)
Re:cross refrencing sneaky advertising? (Score:2)
Lovin' Apple's (Score:4, Interesting)
Wow, I'm talking about *nothing* and I've still developed a paragraph! Much like my english papers. I'm done now...
Re:Lovin' Apple's (Score:2)
"float"
hehe, yeah, I've noticed that too... it looks like a polished piece of black stone suspended within the mouse... the keyboard is sort of that way as well... funky mostly-clear styling, with the wires and chips somehow hidden. Neat stuff! My desk is pretty wild with my Apple LCD, keyboard, and mouse... plus my "speckled granite" Silicon Graphics 21" CRT, keyboard, and mouse.
Re:Lovin' Apple's (Score:2)
No kidding, nothing says "Dell" like a black monitor/keys/mouse setup and "sgi" in lame white paint. Ugh. Thankfully the Octane2 (and maybe the Fuel) work fine with existing granite accessories. Too bad there was never a granite FD Trinitron monitor.
Microsoft Hardware (Score:4, Informative)
Difference being is this. Microsoft software is made, mostly, within Microsoft. Microsoft hardware is hardware someone else makes and they just slap on a label onto it.
Microsoft hardware is actually really good, and the support for it is amazing. My optical mouse was tweaking out for some reason, so I called them and they sent me another one by the next day. They didn't require me to send in my old one. It probably didn't cost them much anyway, but it was still a cool gesture.
Re:Microsoft Hardware (Score:2)
It may be true about mice and joysticks, but the keyboards they resell are really of the ``el cheapo'' kind. Nothing really comparable to a good old IBM PS/2 [pckeyboard.com] (see here [pckeyboard.com] and here [pckeyboard.com]) or a Keytronic [keytronic.com] (see here [keytronic.com]).
Re:Microsoft Hardware (Score:1)
Re:Microsoft Hardware (Score:1)
As soon as i read this comment, i took out my trusty chef's knife and cleared the M$-Logo from my Intellimouse Optical. I needed 10 seconds to remove the logo.
How long does it take to do the same to any other M$-Product?
Re:Microsoft Hardware (Score:1)
Cutting it out of the retail packaging, on the other hand, went rather smoothly. So I'm 1 for 2.
Re:Microsoft Hardware (Score:1)
No, I'm not joking.
Re:Microsoft Hardware (Score:2, Informative)
Ohhh.. SO close. You are almost correct in saying that someone else makes but what you really mean is that someone else manufactures it. MS does all its hardware design in house [microsoft.com] (mice, keyboards, joysticks, games pads...) and then subcontracts out the manufacturing.
It's been done (Score:2, Funny)
Check it out. [worldnet.net]
MS Intellimouse Explorer (Score:1)
The 3.0 is also a bit "lower" than the previous version (1.0) and looks more logitechish
and
likes and dislikes (Score:1)
MS Makes a superior Mouse & Ergonomics (Score:5, Informative)
I would like to try this no button mouse, when I am working (coding) I occassionally get serious serious hand pain (no jokes..lol).
It will last for days and is quite painful. All of us in tech jobs, spending long hours at computers should take a serious look at ergonomics. Also, your employer should pay for upgrading your chair, keyboard and mouse if you feel pain with your current setup. It's your health, your future, hell, go out and buy what you want and throw the bill at your boss if you're in pain (not literally throw it, figuratively). I would in fact suggest sitting down with your employer and going over ergonomics and how it can effect employee productivity.
Maybe some of these links would be helpful:
Design/Layout [123sortit.com]
Ergonomics - A Practical Guide [leuwico.com]
Carpal Tunnel Syndrome and Computer Related Repetitive Strain Injuries [ctsplace.com]
I am gonna buy one, the tiny little muscles used in your hands to click the mice buttons place a huge strain on your arm over a period of time. It may not bother you now, but let's talk in 20 years....
Re:MS Makes a superior Mouse & Ergonomics (Score:1)
Use xev to find out the keycodes. Then use xmodmap to give them keysyms (choose names from /usr/X11R6/include/X11/keysymdef.h). There are applications to assign arbitrary commands to keysyms. Some window managers (eg sawfish) have this built in.
Re:MS Makes a superior Mouse & Ergonomics (Score:2)
Re:MS Makes a superior Mouse & Ergonomics (Score:3, Informative)
As for keyboard I ended up getting a Kinesis, but that is for another post.
As for desk I built my own to match my height so my wrists are in the least amount of pain. (90 angle at elbo)
-Benjamin Meyer
Re:MS Makes a superior Mouse & Ergonomics (Score:2)
Re:MS Makes a superior Mouse & Ergonomics (Score:2)
There does seem to be a learning curve for them, but unfortunatly I can't comment as I was young enough that "it just seemed natural" to start using it. As long as you've got something else for gaming(and in the days of USB, you aren't limited to just one pointing device), I really recomend them.
Re:MS Makes a superior Mouse & Ergonomics (Score:2)
For me at least, using a trackball is like typing with my elbows.
Re:MS Makes a superior Mouse & Ergonomics (Score:1)
then you mention: I had a faulty Intellimouse,
then, as if one failed unit wasn't enuff, you Had the smaller white one faulty.
Hmmm... what fine examples of a "superior mouse"
Re:MS Makes a superior Mouse & Ergonomics (Score:2)
Might have been a bit vague, but I thought my point was made, sorry if it was not.
Still goes to my end point, the hardware is great. If something happens and it breaks due to manufacturer defect, they should replace it, and they did. So yes, it is a fine example.
I'm just sitting here wondering why you come off sounding like a knob?
RSI prevention (Score:1)
Re:RSI prevention (Score:2)
I am a lefty, but now that I think of it, I never acutally tried using my left hand to control the mouse. So, here I am trying to do it...I feel like I do when I try to write with my right hand. Pretty klunky and having trouble getting used to it. But certainly a thought....
Re:MS Makes a superior Mouse & Ergonomics (Score:2)
Now, I wouldn't go and jump on any bandwagon and start saying Apple makes *crap*, because I think they make good stuff. I still have my original Apple //c downstairs from when I was younger and it's still working. I was highly disappointed that Apple wanted so much just to pop it open and look.
Anyhow, when I mentioned 'superior', it has been superior in terms of usability and comfort compared to anything I have used. Now the trackball has come up, I'll try it. I already mentioned the Wacom Tablet. So, yes, the large grey intellimouse has been the best so far, but hey, I'm not closed minded about trying new things. Unlike many who would love to bash the intellimouse line and hardware simply because it is somehow associated with MSFT. But then again, this is slashdot.
/. ed (Score:2, Funny)
Check out the manufacturer's page... (Score:1)
not to be nitpicky... (Score:1)
I owned one of the first Microsoft mice, by sheer chance. They're still shaped the same way now as they were back then, but the mouse I had was fully dead within 12 months. Since then, they've evolved the product substantially, to something that many people tout as the holy grail of mice.
I have a personal preference for Logitech optical trackballs, and haven't used any MS mice since my first one died (it really was that shoddy of a product). It's also my personal belief that Microsoft takes their "evolution" process too far, and throws in too many features at the expense of stability and longevity. Note that I draw no comparisons to WinXP or IE 6.
Re:not to be nitpicky... (Score:1)
By the time Windows 3.1 came out, the MS mice were more like todays modern mouse. I think they were usually bundled with a copy of Win3.1.
Should be rats not mice (Score:2, Troll)
Re:Should be rats not mice (Score:2)
Oh, wait, Microsoft mice rule, rats rule.. I see it now
Gaming mice (Score:1)
A good solid ye olde ball mouse is very good. I highly recommed the Logitech WingMan Gaming Mouse (if you can find one). With the shoot, jump, reload style of games, you need 3 buttons minimum.
Re:Gaming mice (Score:1)
iMac Mice (Score:1)
Why didn't Apple use a wireless keyboard and mouse on its new iMacs? It seems to me that the entire beauty of the machine is completely ruined by having to look at these cables.
Re:iMac Mice (Score:1)
At my collage, we had a new wireless mouse in our presentation room, it last 2 days before someone took it. I guess it ended up on eBay already.
Re:iMac Mice (Score:1)
Blatant Think Geek link (Score:1)
I'm living in the past (Score:1)
You woudn't belive how much it sucked sending in a huge horse archer army against someone online and then having your mouse die out on you.
About the Logitech mouse.. (Score:1)
I have a Cordless Mouseman Optical, but Since ive got my USB Optical Wheelmouse (also logitech). It have been pluged into my game maschine, since the USB still are more reliable.. BUT, i must say, Ive found the Logitec cordless Mouseman Optical is one of the most stable cordless ive have tried yet. I also own a MS Cordless and the logitec is, in my experice, WAY more stable.. But MS knows this i think, they warn you on the mouses product page: MS productpage [microsoft.com] , Wireless freedom, Microsoft reliability LMAO
BUT, dear mr. Tacodude.. Ur are rich and everything, go get the new Mouseman Dual Optical, it has a tail(hence stable in games), and two optic eyes(hence 1600DPI res).. Havent tried one yet.. but they should be GREAT for gaming..
Focus, people! :-) (Score:5, Insightful)
Re:Focus, people! :-) (Score:2)
I hate Microsoft with a passion. I run Linux.
However, I have a Microsoft mouse, and I have to admit it's a fine mouse! It's well designed, comfrotable, reliable, never sticks or anything.
Windows is of course pure shit.
Microsoft Hardware (Score:2)
Now if only their Windows versions of Office took some cues from the Mac versions and became less of a disk/ram/cpu hog.
Off to download the latest 18 MB security service pack for Outlook... man am I glad I only own one Windows PC...
I don't know why... (Score:2)
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Microsoft Mice (Score:1)
Nothing had impressed me more than the Optical Intellimouse Explorer until I tried the Wireless Optical Intellimouse Explorer. It tracks even smoother than the wired version, looks great, and doesn't light up the bathe room in a red glow when I turn off the light. The driver software (on Mac) is well designed, unobtrusive, and even tells you when the battery is low.
Then there is support: when my original Intellimouse died (after 2 years, not under warranty), I read them the serial number off the bottom, gave them my address, and they shipped me a replacement _overnight_, at no cost. When I say overnight, I mean I called at 9 PM and got it before noon the next day. I mail order lots of stuff, and have only seen this kind of performance from Outpost.com.
I am anti-microsoft-pro-little-guy whenever I can be, but Microsoft has my money when it comes to mice.
The Mouse (Score:3, Interesting)
Obviously I haven't used one, but I don't see what problem they're trying to solve with this leaning instead of clicking thing... it seems to me that that would be even worse for your wrist after repetitive use, and judging from the other mice on the companies website, they're not exactly masters of ergonomics or industrial design.
This does bring up a question I've wondered about, though; if Apple offers their own 2-button scroll wheel mouse, what will it look like. The last time we heard rumors that they were designing one was back during the days of their hockey-puck mouse, so the mouse would have had the fruit and ice design scheme. I must say Apple's current no button clickable mouse is beautiful, even though I use my Logitech Cordless Optical Mouse most of the time, I keep it on my desk for the prettiness factor (the Logitech isn't bad though, it almost perfectly matches the colors of a graphite G4 tower, it just can't hold a candle to a translucent black oval floating above your desk ;).
Of course, there's no guarantee Apple will ever make a two-button mouse, but I don't think you can rule out the possibility that they might start at least including them with Power Macs. Apple has admitted that many of their customers need the extra button and scroll wheel, particularly gamers; when Apple furnished Power Macs for QuakeCon, they came with 3rd party two button mice, and you'll wonder how you ever used the Mac OS X Finder with a one-button mouse once you switch.
So I think there is plenty of motivation, although they would probably keep the present mouse on the iMacs (the iMacs now actually use a special mouse with a white bubble instead of a black one, ditto for the keyboard). So my question is what would it look like? Hopefully nothing like this one from Green, in form or function, but how do you make a mouse as stunning as the current one with buttons and a scroll wheel breaking up the design? Would be a very different design, but the new towers might see a very new design sometime soon as well, and they might take that opportunity to switch keyboard and mouse designs ont the pro products as well, after all, is Apple going to use the same style they've had since the G3 when they start making 5th gen towers.
Here's the article... (Score:1)
Here's the article for those who can't reach it. Sorry for the freakin' filler, I hate the lameness filter.
Introduction (stupid filler, filler, filler, filler, filler)
Personally I never heard of the company "Green" [greenworld.net] before. Did you? Anyway, they seem to have a wide range of rather interesting products. Today we take a look at two of them; The Crystal Optical Mouse and the Finger Mouse.
(image of packaging) [heatseekerz.net] (filler, filler, filler, filler, filler, filler)These products are provided by Colorcase.be [yucom.be].
Crystal Optical Mouse (stupid filler, filler, filler, filler, filler)
Let's take a closer look at the Crystal Optical Mouse.
As we all know, most mice come with 2 or 3 buttons and a scroll wheel. Well, times change :). Green decided to try something new and they developed a buttonless mouse.
How does it work? The top part of the mouse is one shell. You have to move the shell to the right or the left to click. Here's a picture to clear it up:
(image of mouse, (c) Green) [heatseekerz.net]Specs Crystal Optical (stupid filler, filler, filler, filler, filler)
Colorcase.be has this mouse in two different colors; black and purple. I have to warn you though, the black one isn't really black. It's rather "smoked", which is even sweeter :).
(image of both mice next to each other) [heatseekerz.net] (filler, filler, filler, filler, filler, filler)Specs (filler, filler, filler, filler, filler, filler)
Experience Crystal Optical (stupid filler, filler, filler, filler, filler)
When I first started to use this mouse it felt really weird. Especially because you have to swing the mouse to the left and the right to click. After using it for a couple of hours it was a piece of cake. It's a great mouse, but defenitly not suited for a real gamer. It takes to much time to click and you can't right click and left click at the same time. So if you work in an office all day and you want to try something new, try this mouse. If you are a hardcore gamer; leave it alone.
(image showing the smoked/transparant effect) [heatseekerz.net] (filler, filler, filler, filler, filler, filler)(image of above but in the dark) [heatseekerz.net] (filler, filler, filler, filler, filler, filler)
What about the ergonomics? Well, to be honest, in the beginning this mouse is a little hard on you wrist. But when you get used to it that problem will not occure again!
Finger Mouse (stupid filler, filler, filler, filler, filler)
This mouse (if you can call it a mouse) was especially developed for powerpoint presentation. With a normal mouse or trackball it's rather hard, when making a presentation, to switch between screens. Thanks to this innovative mouse you can say goodbye to that problem.
(image of the finger mouse) [heatseekerz.net] (filler, filler, filler, filler, filler, filler)Specs Finger Mouse (stupid filler, filler, filler, filler, filler)
Let's see what this little mouse has to offer.
Specs: (filler, filler, filler, filler, filler, filler)
As you can see by the specification list, the main purpose of the Finger Mouse is to make presentations and laptop use easier. But if you have a laptop I wouldn't recommend this mouse. This mouse is a really awesome sollution for people who have to make a lot of presentations!
Here's how to hold it:
(image of mouse being held) [heatseekerz.net] (filler, filler, filler, filler, filler, filler)Conclusion (stupid filler, filler, filler, filler, filler)
Crystal Optical Mouse:
This mouse performs very well and looks really sweet. It costs 48, that's about 52USD, but it's sure worth the money. I would recommend it to anyone who has to work with a PC whole day, because it is fun to use. But to all gamers, stay away from this mouse :).
Finger Mouse:
This mouse is perfect for Powerpoint presentations. But that's its only purpose, don't try to use it for something else. This mouse is available for 40EUR, about 43USD.
You can download additional drivers for the Crystal Optical Mouse here [greenworld.net].
wireless optical 3 button with no scroll wheel? (Score:1)
Heck, even if it wasn't optical I'd be happy.
Microsoft optical mouse death (Score:1)
These are not isolated incidents.
Early versions of MS's optical mice have an exceptionally weak spot in what is otherwise a finely engineered product, which is where the cord enters the mouse itself. The wiring there can easily break, and indeed does also frequently occur on non-Microsoft mice.
MS is aware of this problem. It is not acknowledged to be a systematic problem, and they handle the replacement policy very well, as some here have noted. But it is still a problem with the earlier versions of MS optical mice.
Current versions of these excellent mice seem to have that connection point reinforced.
Microsoft isn't a hardware company (Score:1)
I read it and as they aren't I don't buy stuff that doesn't exist... Remember He never lies!
Logitech make very nice mice and on my Vaio I have a very small Dexxa wheel mouse. But my next mouse will be a Wacom Graphire.
Logitech Mouseman Wheel optical (Score:2)
Buttonless ergonomics - one person's experience (Score:2)
It is an apple mouse. You don't miss the buttons under Mac OS, I run about half the time in X and I've just learned to use the extra modifier keys to get the other buttons. It becomes automatic after a day.
(Not that I'm a clicking fiend, the injury probably originated while playing a string of shows with a bluegrass band. 240 notes/minute, 80/finger/minute on the right hand for three hours a day is a lot of finger pulling for a bass player. I had to stop doing that, but the hand didn't heal until I switched mice.)
Logitech wireless optical (Score:2)
I've been using it for almost a year now (bought it when it came out). It is wonderful. I've been playing all kinds of games with it, tried my friend's Razor Boomslang, this is definitely better. I like the shape, although I suspect some of the bigger mice (like MS Optical) may be more comfortable for the hand. Batteries work for two or three months (I use rechargeable so it's more like a month and then I spend 5 seconds replacing them with charged ones). Doesn't need a pad, doesn't collect residue like ball mice. Windows detects it as a standard HID device, so no drivers needed. Not bad at all, I say it's definitely worth the money.
Been done before... (Score:2)
Re:One Button Why? (Score:2)