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Trojans and Popups and Slimeball Business 287

Selanit writes "Salon.com is reporting on a company which exploited a vulnerability in an old but common version of Internet Explorer's Java engine to install spyware on the visitor's machine. " It's a pretty in depth story showing the lack of respect that some companies have. My favorite part is that the guy who denies any knowledge of the trojan popup is named 'Frank Bigott'.
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Trojans and Popups and Slimeball Business

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  • Actually (Score:4, Informative)

    by CaptainZapp ( 182233 ) on Tuesday May 07, 2002 @10:40AM (#3477113) Homepage
    You can cough up 30$ a year (50$ for 2) and enjoy Salon in its entirety and completely ad-free.

    I'm aware, that this doesn't necessarily sit well with a lot of people here, but wtf...

  • by Nos. ( 179609 ) <andrewNO@SPAMthekerrs.ca> on Tuesday May 07, 2002 @10:46AM (#3477135) Homepage
    wwws1.com was the intended address

    Yup, like I said, I have a log full of lame server entries for wwws1.com -> translation, the program was sending her to wwws1.com and my DNS server when doing the resolving was reporting the fact that the DNS for wwws1.com is not setup correctly.

    Who said anything about www.s1.com?
  • Re:Actually (Score:4, Informative)

    by benjymous ( 69893 ) on Tuesday May 07, 2002 @11:12AM (#3477287) Homepage
    Or just install Mozilla which has pretty decent popup prevention (i.e. it still allows the popups that result from a user click, but not the ones that pages generate on load/exit/etc)
  • Ad-aware (Score:5, Informative)

    by DeadSea ( 69598 ) on Tuesday May 07, 2002 @11:17AM (#3477336) Homepage Journal
    Ad-aware [lsfileserv.com] is a Windows program from Lavasoft that will remove spyware from your computer. It is freeware. There is also a plus version available for a fee that will run in the background and prevent spyware from being installed.
  • You should sue (Score:3, Informative)

    by kryzx ( 178628 ) on Tuesday May 07, 2002 @11:53AM (#3477580) Homepage Journal
    You really should consider going after them in court. There are currently no federal laws restricting spam, but many states have laws.

    Investigate your state laws here: http://law.spamcon.org/us-laws/index.shtml [spamcon.org]

    Some of the states allow quite significant damages, for example, California law allows "damages of $50 per message, up to $25,000 per day, or its actual damages, whichever is greater."

    If you are in a state with anti-spam laws you could really lay a hurtin' on them, and might even collect some dough in the process. (Although, given that we know they are unscrupulous, collecting will not be easy.)

    Here are some other resources:
    http://smallclaim.info/ [smallclaim.info]
    http://www.spamcon.org/ [spamcon.org]
    http://www.aboutspam.com/ [aboutspam.com]
    http://http://www.cauce.org/about/resources.shtml [cauce.org]

  • by Rogerborg ( 306625 ) on Tuesday May 07, 2002 @12:04PM (#3477654) Homepage
    • Isn't it odd that the only Java security exploit to be used in the wild is in the VM produced by Microsoft that didn't obey the Java spec.

    Yeah, I posted it elsewhere, but it bears repeating that the "Microsoft® virtual machine (Microsoft VM)" [microsoft.com] is not a Java Virtual Machine (JVM, the old name), and Microsoft are no longer allowed to call it that after being bitchslapped around a few courts by Sun. Let's keep the Microsoft VM and the Sun JRE clear and distinct in our minds.

  • by Steveftoth ( 78419 ) on Tuesday May 07, 2002 @12:08PM (#3477681) Homepage
    Sun sued Microsoft for extending the spec, not for a bad implementation!

    If you look at that MS was doing to the Java APIs (not the language or VM), you will see that they tried to get people to write code to their APIs that tied people to their MS x86 Java Platform which was against the agreement they had with Sun.

    Netscape just had a bad implementation of Java.
  • ActiveX Backdoor (Score:3, Informative)

    by Animats ( 122034 ) on Tuesday May 07, 2002 @12:10PM (#3477694) Homepage
    It's in the "ActiveX Backdoor" that Microsoft put in their VM. Microsoft lets Java programs load ActiveX controls, presumably so that Java programmers can be induced to create programs that won't run on non-Windows platforms. As Microsoft says,

    The Microsoft virtual machine (Microsoft VM) contains functionality that allows ActiveX controls to be created and manipulated by Java applications or applets. This functionality is intended to only be available to stand-alone Java applications or digitally signed applets. However, this vulnerability allows ActiveX controls to be created and used from a web page, or from within a HTML based e-mail message, without requiring a signed applet.

  • by Roanna ( 153493 ) <ehkuhall7@tacheiru.every1.net> on Tuesday May 07, 2002 @12:16PM (#3477747) Homepage Journal
    And please, don't tell me you don't have the time for it. Find out (informally of course) who
    is sending the cards in your organization. I
    am a member of four or five ladies' groups and
    I typically send between one and five or six
    ecards per week.

    I won't touch Flowgo with a ten foot pole. I have fallen into their spam trap twice. Women love ecards.

    What they need is some alternatives to Flowgo or a bit of education in disarming Flowgo/Funstun/Send4Fun etc.... This is a serious issue because ecards are sent for support (the most popular one I send is "thinking of you") and sometimes sympathy or illness.

    Put simply, you don't want to spam someone with illness or a death in the family or someone who is recovering from ilness either.

    What you need to do is talk to the major ecard senders in your organization. This may be the party committee, the boss' secretary, the ladies upstairs in marketing what have you.

    Suggest any of the following

    http://shopping.corbis.com (write your own message and choose from thousands of images. The database is a great toy.) No ads in the card for outside businesses.

    http://www.artsmia.org (Minneapolis Museum of art has lovely illustrations.) No ads period!

    http://www.arborfoods.com (cards are a few links inside the site and come with recipes.)No ads!

    The MOMA also has great ecards with a very classy pick up letter. No ads!

    If you can tolerate a little advertisement and have someone among the card crew who is techincally comfortable (can code some html), have her set up a postcard mill on the company web site. http://www.allyours.net works really well for this and you can upload your own pressies. My personal postcard mill is at http://nakedmolerat.org.uk/plaunch.html and the pressie galleries start with http://nakedmolerat.org.uk/raok2.html

    Alternatively, Funstun/Flowgo etc... cards are very easy to disarm. I know you think why bother. I think that too since I prefer the alternatives I mentioned above but people love those animated cards. Instead of just hitting the send the card on button, the sender sends the card to HERSELF. She then cuts the nonspam link out of the pick up letter sent by Flowgo and inserts it into a fresh email letter. Goodbye spammy opt in by deception, and hello animated greeting card. True they're still full of pop ups but at least the spam trap is gone.

    The trick is to realize that cards are important. Women account for the vast majority of greeting card purchases and when we are online we bring this part of our culture with us, and we even take it to the office.

    By the way, the education strategies will also work with friends and relatives. I'm sorry if I sound sexist, but I think this is a female problem.

    Eileen H. Kramer/Roanna/ZOIDRubashov
    Head of the RAOK Guestbook Committee.
    http://nakedmolerat.org.uk/raokg

  • by EvilOpie ( 534946 ) on Tuesday May 07, 2002 @12:33PM (#3477867) Homepage
    Actually, to answer your question, it's not too hard to get java working on mozilla. It just takes an extra step. I have it working here and I'm using mozilla 0.9.9

    First, go to Sun's Java page [sun.com], and download their SDK for Java. Then run their installer and install that on your system. The next step is to go to the bin directory in the location where you just installed Java, and copy all the .dll's to your mozilla plugins directory. Then close (if it's running) and restart mozilla. After that, java support should work for you.
  • Re:Actually (Score:3, Informative)

    by benjymous ( 69893 ) on Tuesday May 07, 2002 @01:11PM (#3478134) Homepage
    Preferences -> Advanced -> Scripts and Windows and uncheck "Open unrequested windows" (and any others that take your fancy)

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