Mozilla 1.0 Release Parties

Screaming Lunatic writes "With the release of Mozilla 1.0 almost here, the open source Mozilla community is planning a bunch of parties all over the world. You can choose to attend a party already planned somewhere in the world or start up a party in your own neck of the woods. The main party will be at 8pm Wednesday, June 12, 2002 at the DNA Lounge in San Francisco." Currently 37 parties listed, but many of them look awfully lonely... none near Ann Arbor yet ;)

Here ya go...

[Misch]

Here ya go, you're all invited [mozilla.org]... now why don't you print out a bunch of these onto glossy postcards and leave them around your local college campus like all the promoters do at mine [rit.edu]?

Re:parties for a web browser?

[Anonymous Coward]

It took 5 times as long to get to version 1.0 than MS did with IE

Have you included the development time of Spyglass? Have you, in fact, compared the features and supported technology of IE 1.0 to Mozilla 1.0?

Now, if you had said "It took 5 times as long to get to version 1.0 than MS did with getting IE to version 6.0", then yes, you might have a point. But you didn't say that, and besides, it has taken less than half the time for Mozilla to reach 1.0 than it has taken IE to reach 6.0...

Re:parties for a web browser?

[Anonymous Coward]

ah, the most common mozilla troll there is:
It took 5 times as long to get to version 1.0 than MS did with IE
uh, sure, but have you compared IE 1.0 with mozilla 1.0?
the code to netscape communicator was released in 1998, and was abandoned soon thereafter to start a complete rewrite. so, from mid-1998 to now is four years. four years to write a browser that competes in just about every category and class as IE.

when was IE 1.0 first released? 1996? how long had they been developing it before that? since 1994? and they had an entire codebaset to work from, because they licensed it from spyglass.
http://careers.yahoo.com/s/wetfeet/v195.html [yahoo.com]

so... IE - in development since before 1994. Mozilla - in development since 1998. who's more efficient?

Re:None near Anne Arbor yet...

[stienman]

I've requested my entry (ann arbor destroyed by mozilla) be removed to favor Ann Arbor Party [schnitzer.at] in ypsilanti. Please sign up for the Ann Arbor Party, that's where I'll be going...

-Adam

Re:Well,

[Fiver-rah]

Look, there's only one rule: pay attention to your SO. Some girls like being worshipped. Others find it off-putting. I haven't a clue which category your SO falls into. So *talk* to her. Find out what she likes (which is, sadly, not always what she says she likes, sorry). So pay attention to how she accepts compliments, et cetera, and moderate your level of worship to maximize her enjoyment of your company.

If she's really worth it, she'll figure out what you like, too.

Re:Is this appropriate?

[msuzio]

I doubt JWZ thought his departure would spell the end of the project. He just didn't care anymore, judging from what he said at the time and since. The project was bogged down, going nowhere in his opinion, and he had better things to do with his time.

Like manage to renovate and open a club and operate it for almost a full year before they ever got the release done. :-). I think he's the one who has been laughing the whole time...

The only thing they're throwing at him is cash. I'm sure he has no problem with that...

...plus, he has posted several notes about *trying* to use Mozilla as the browser on his club kiosks. Submitted bug reports and everything... so he's trying his best to be a good open source dude.

Re:Irony...

[rnb]

That's called rewriting history - read his original statement. Only later does he claim it was about "shipping an end-user version soon." That extra bullshit only makes me dislike the arrogant shit even more.

Okay, from his original resignation from AOL and Mozilla:

But despite all this, in the last year, we did not accomplish the goals that I wanted to accomplish. We did not take the Mozilla project and turn it into a network-collaborative project in which Netscape was but one of many contributors; and we did not ship end-user software. For me, shipping is the thing.

Perhaps my goals were unreasonable; perhaps it should have been obvious to me when we set out on this project that it would take much longer than a year to reach these goals, if we ever did. But, it wasn't obvious to me then, or now. These are the goals I was aiming for, and they have not yet been met.

And so I'm giving up.


Not sure where else I should be looking.

JWZ is actually organizing it - his comments

[SeanAhern]

Jamie has some comments [dnalounge.com] about this at his site at dnalounge.com [dnalounge.com]:

Hey kids! Today I'm going to take this opportunity to ridicule my former employers, now that they are customers!

On June 12, we're hosting the release party for Mozilla 1.0. For those of you who haven't been following along at home, my first ever experience in nightclub promotion was throwing the first Mozilla party back in 1998. A year later, when the company proved to me that its head was so far up its collective ass that it wasn't going to be able to ship anything usable before I went insane, I threw a second party and quit in April 1999.

Well, it's now a bit over three years since I quit, and they're finally about to release 1.0! I'm actually very happy for them, because I think it will end up being a good product. But I'm sure glad I didn't have to help them roll that boulder up the hill for those last three years. In that time, I took about a year off, and then Barry and I created a whole new business from scratch in a completely different industry, and that was far more interesting than continuing to work on the same old thing I'd been doing since 1994. (Or 1985, depending on how you count.)

So anyway, I'm organizing this party for them.
...

It continues. Interesting story - go read it.

Re:Well,

[MAXOMENOS]

Now, what about worshipping such a woman?

I can't speak for the parent poster, but my experience is that women (both geeky and non) are much easier to get along with when you're talking with them and not worshiping them. Especially if they're co-workers, or potential co-workers.

If you're attracted to someone, try flirting [sexuality.org]. If you're afraid of scaring them off with flirting, well, your hoving from a distance because you don't want to frighten them is actually scarrier than your flirting with them. At least with flirting they know what's up.

If you get rejected...hey, it happens. And it's not the end of the world.

Hope this helps.