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The Nokia 7650 Cell Phone w/ Integrated Camera 147

Unstrung writes "Nokia has just started shipping, in Europe, its first mobile phone with a digital camera onboard, unleashing on the unsuspecting continent a device with roughly the same mischief-making potential as the office photocopier - but in a package you can take to the bar on a Friday night." It's 640x480, and doesn't look clunky. In short, me want.
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The Nokia 7650 Cell Phone w/ Integrated Camera

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  • Hmm... (Score:5, Interesting)

    by stirfry714 ( 410701 ) on Friday July 05, 2002 @08:30PM (#3830574)
    Okay, call me naive, but there might actually be uses for this phone that aren't sick and/or twisted.

    I mean, how often have I wanted to describe something to someone else, but just can't seem to get the right words? Assuming this is integrated well enough, just snap a picture and send it along... it's often not worth it to dig out the digital camera, snap a shot, hook it up to the PC, grab the pic, scale it, e-mail it, wait for the other person to get it, etc, etc...

    The key of course, would be wide-spread acceptance of this technology, combined with some sort of open standard so that you can avoid a "Let me send this picture... oh you have a Nokia? I have a Sprint... darn..." problem.
  • by Anonymous Coward on Friday July 05, 2002 @08:38PM (#3830609)
    check it out... http://www.infosync.no/news/2002/n/2016.html

    a 3rd party company already hacked it to record video off the ccd..
  • P800 (Score:4, Interesting)

    by killa-b(a was taken) ( 554353 ) on Friday July 05, 2002 @08:43PM (#3830624)
    look, this is the way all phones are going to be, due to MMS (multi media messaging) which allows you to send messages a "slide show" format, with pictures and music and text. shipping a MMS phone without a camera is just stupid, its like a car with no tires.

    this is a GSM 900/1800 phone so it will only work in europe, and Nokia is VERY slow to make their GSM products use the 1900 band with NA uses.

    the better alternative is the Sony Ericsson P800 wich is a world phone, and a camera and uses a newer version of the Symbian OS. Includes BlueTooth, and dang(Sony Memory Stick "Duo")

    anywho, 7650=garbage P800=great
  • It runs Java too (Score:4, Interesting)

    by wal9000 ( 302320 ) on Friday July 05, 2002 @09:34PM (#3830767)
    That's what I think is cool about this phone. It's got J2ME onboard and runs it really really fast (having seen it demoed at JavaOne).
  • by cardoso ( 90714 ) <[cardoso] [at] [pobox.com]> on Friday July 05, 2002 @09:46PM (#3830800) Homepage
    I loved the 7650 when it first arrived at Nokia's website, but since then I acquired a Sony Cybershot and a Sony Clié. Know what? I can take pictures whenever I want, and if I need to post them, All I need to do is remove the Memory Stick from the Camera, stick it in the Clié, and dial my ISP (thanks heaven for TDMA mobile phones with data services).

    With a stantard TCP/IP connection, I can FTP, mail-attach or post the pictures, edit HTML files to comment the images, you name it.

    Not so integrated? OK, but overall, I have much more quality and flexibility. The 7650 took to long to arrive.

    Of course, when in deep geek mode, the best thing to do is start ICQ and tease your friends about the beer. People hate the "I'm at the bar, where are you?" line ;)
  • by frovingslosh ( 582462 ) on Friday July 05, 2002 @11:37PM (#3831155)
    Fine, they added a camera to a phone. What I want to know is, with the mumbo-jumbo of different technologies we have deployed in the US, and lots of competing wireless telcos doing different things, will this phone easily integrate with all or most of them, a few of them, or (as I fear) none at all? Perhaps a more general question would be how can a non-industry insider keep up with the basic technology used in cell phones so that I would not have even bothered to ask this question?
  • by Effugas ( 2378 ) on Saturday July 06, 2002 @02:07AM (#3831629) Homepage
    Cory Doctorow [boingboing.net] was talking about the Journalism 3.0 talk at the Emerging Technologies conference sometime back, and mentioned something insanely significant:

    Eventually, when a major event happens, the first imagery of it won't be from government-released photos or even freelance photographers. It'll be anyone in the area with their cell phones, sending images of the disaster/situation off to their friends. Dozens upon dozens of individual, low quality but zero-hour latency images, sent over data networks to remote archives.

    That's the future of journalism -- or at least part of it.

    Yours Truly,

    Dan Kaminsky, CISSP
    DoxPara Research
    http://www.doxpara.com

  • by Anonymous Coward on Saturday July 06, 2002 @02:13AM (#3831641)

    This could be really handy if someone were to try to mug you. Just turn the phone on them as they chase you saying smile, you're live at the local precinct!

    Or as you stand there in the shop you can say do you prefer this one or this one? I like this idea better than the inevitable bar shots... Or, Officer see how erratic he/she drives! Will it be useable in court as evidence? Practical joke (expensive) you tape a taperecorder to it and throw it off the roof of your office building...

  • Size (Score:3, Interesting)

    by Mr_Silver ( 213637 ) on Saturday July 06, 2002 @11:42AM (#3832883)
    I've played with one for a while and it's a very nice phone. Lovely interface and the camera picture quality is better than the T68i and Camera attachment.

    My only complaint is that it's rather heavy and bulky. You could put it in your jeans pocket but you wouldn't have much room for anything else.

    Personally, I'm not going to buy one as I like my phones small and light, I already have a Cannon Digital IXUS v for photos and my Palm Vx suits most of my needs. I'm not really in the need of something that does everything in one quite yet ...

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