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Mozilla 1.1 Hits The Street 606

asa writes: "Mozilla 1.1 has arrived!. This release has many new features including full-screen mode for Linux, Mac MathML support, a redesigned JavaScript Debugger, new window icons for the different Mozilla applications, view selection source, display HTML mail as plaintext, and much more. Along with all the new features, Mozilla 1.1 also contains many improvements to performance, stability, standards support, and web site compatibility. You can get Mozilla 1.1 by visiting the mozilla.org releases page or directly from ftp at ftp.mozilla.org. Now that 1.1 is out the door, the focus moves to 1.2 alpha, and beyond. If you're confused as to how all of these releases relate to each other, be sure to check out the Mozilla Roadmap and the community hub over at mozillaZine.org."
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Mozilla 1.1 Hits The Street

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  • by bjornte ( 536493 ) on Tuesday August 27, 2002 @05:35AM (#4147159)
    I've been a Moz 1.0 user since it was launched, and I've been very pleased with it. Many nice touches, like tabbed browsing (try ctrl-shift-clicking), banning images from ad-serves, anti-popup and so on. Best of all, it manages all the security routines my internet bank throws at it.

    Having downloaded Moz 1.1 the difference is not so great, as expected. Some minor bugs have vanished, like the frequent paralyzation of the http-input field.

    In general, there is nothing IE can do for me that Moz can't. And Moz is just... a smoother ride. Plus it's got good karma. Recommended.

  • by jukal ( 523582 ) on Tuesday August 27, 2002 @05:43AM (#4147180) Journal
    It is great, that Mozilla progresses and that Slashdot supports the work by directing traffic to their site. But I really hope that /. could give other and new browser projects coverage as well. Many of them [dmoz.org] have innovative ideas, and potential, and probably would not mind a few more volunteer developers. Slashdot is in great position to give these too the needed momentum. Why don't you release an article about one of them today already?
  • by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday August 27, 2002 @06:19AM (#4147266)
    I sure wish this was the case. So far I've switched Sales Dept, Technical Services, and another dept. over to Open Office. Great so far. However, a few insist on using Outlook Express. So the problem is they can't spell. So we have to buy a $15 spelling thing plugin for OE.

    What really sucks is I have to install Netscape 6.2.3 instead of Mozilla on many peoples computer. Why? Only one stupid reason. No spelling for Mozilla.

    Before you say go download the free plugin. Been there done that. It crashes constantly and I tried it on 3 or 4 computers. Sorry but can't install freakin Mozilla for just that reason alone at my corporation. Wish I could...I really do. When is mozilla going to properly disply cdrinfom.com [cdrinfo.com] ?
  • That funky graph (Score:4, Interesting)

    by Zaffle ( 13798 ) on Tuesday August 27, 2002 @06:24AM (#4147283) Homepage Journal
    I just want to know what program they used to generate that funky [mozilla.org] milestone graph. Anyone know?
  • by Nailer ( 69468 ) on Tuesday August 27, 2002 @06:26AM (#4147289)
    Unpackaged tarballs are the tool of the devil. Other applications rely on Mozilla and I'm not going to install an unpackaged version and then have to force install every other package that relies on it, and deal with a nonstandard install, uninstall and query routine.

    I'm going to run away and try and cook up some Linux packages, so I can have myself a nice little LSB-compliant RPM.

    If you beat me to it, post a URL to this page...

  • by X_Caffeine ( 451624 ) on Tuesday August 27, 2002 @06:36AM (#4147308)
    I've heard of it, been meaning to give it a try sometime.

    Mozilla has been slower than MSIE, don't kid yourself, but 1.1 is substantially faster than 1.0, I think they've finally caught up. This is cause to celebrate.

    Good golly those application icons are ugly... can't they use the graphics from mozilla.org??

    Did I mention it's faster?

    Still annoying: when tabbed browsing is enabled, links to open new windows still open new windows (instead of new tabs). Damnit, I'm not going to control-click every link I suspect of opening a new window, this is silly.

    Wouldn't it be cool in the download manager were a tabbed webpage?

    No, seriously, it's fast on Windows, about as fast as MSIE. I can't wait to try the K-Meleon and Chimarae packages when they catch up to this version.
  • Re:That's cool... (Score:3, Interesting)

    by BZ ( 40346 ) on Tuesday August 27, 2002 @06:51AM (#4147338)
    There aren't the resources to do it. There aren't even the resources to do the two branches we're doing, really.
  • by Aanallein ( 556209 ) on Tuesday August 27, 2002 @07:37AM (#4147458)
    Hitting the checbox in: edit, preferences, navigator, tabbed browsing: "load links in the background" will make opening tabs in the background the default action - no need to even bother with the shift key anymore.

    Other nice touches for tabbed browsing: Try dragging a plain text link - http://www.mozilla.org - to an ampty area of the tab bar (if you have many tabs open: near the close button) - this will open a new tab with that link. Dragging the link to a tab itself will load the link in that tab.
    Middle-click on a tab in the tab bar will close the tab.
    Dragging a bookmark from the personal toolbar onto the tab bar will open that bookmark in a new tab.
  • by Quixote ( 154172 ) on Tuesday August 27, 2002 @07:39AM (#4147466) Homepage Journal
    I'm looking for a feature (that others have requested too) that will allow me to dynamically enable/disable a plugin (Hint: Flash ads, or stupid Java tickers). I know I can just muck around with the plugins directory, but that is more of a permanent change. It would be nice to have a dropdown menu about all of the plugins installed, and enable/disable them like that; or you could bind some hot keys to enable/disable specific plugins.
  • by Tarqwak ( 599548 ) on Tuesday August 27, 2002 @08:04AM (#4147531)
    For those who would like to switch to Mozilla but feel a bit uncomfortable by it's appearance I'd suggest you try out few of my pointers to get MSIE look & feel [kodu.neti.ee] for Mozilla.

    The instructions shown on the page barely scratch the surface on how much Mozilla can be tweaked for your needs, no other browser comes close. For example if you'd like to use different keyboard shortcuts in MSIE - yeah good luck with that, but in Mozilla little fiddling with XUL and voila :) Power of OSS!

    Mozilla with MSIE skin & keyboard shortcuts - ultimate BOFH tool for getting some new users to our beloved browser.
  • by Hektor_Troy ( 262592 ) on Tuesday August 27, 2002 @08:10AM (#4147545)
    How do I change the various keyboard-shortcuts?

    Comming from [browser], it'd be easier to set up the keyboard shortcuts you're used to, than having to get used to a new set.
  • by Quila ( 201335 ) on Tuesday August 27, 2002 @08:25AM (#4147587)
    Please, please, please can I have the ability to rearrange the bookmarks live as in IE, rather than going to the bookmark editor every time.
  • by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday August 27, 2002 @09:07AM (#4147758)
    More to the point, why isn't there an individual tab close button as part of each tab? The one-tab-close-button thing is dreadfully annoying.
  • by mikeboone ( 163222 ) on Tuesday August 27, 2002 @09:37AM (#4147955) Homepage Journal
    I've been using Mozilla almost exclusively for a couple months now.

    The only thing I miss from IE is the auto fill-in when entering data in a form. That saved me a lot of typing. Mozilla's fill-in seems to only work on some pages, and then it only remembers one answer. IE lets remembers all of my answers to a single field.

    Other than that, I love Mozilla.
  • by Oxide ( 92607 ) on Tuesday August 27, 2002 @11:34AM (#4148811)
    PERFORMANCE

    yes performance; forget about more features, forget about bugs hunting, I think these are up to an acceptable level to us now. What we need to focus on is making this baby FASTER. I recommended the browser to a windows user, after a few days I asked him how is it? he said he diched it because it is "way too slower than IE". I had to agree.

    I advice the mozilla developers to start working heavily into getting mozilla to load faster and perform faster.
  • Re:That funky graph (Score:5, Interesting)

    by asa ( 33102 ) <asa@mozilla.com> on Tuesday August 27, 2002 @12:13PM (#4149134) Homepage
    I just want to know what program they used to generate that funky [mozilla.org] milestone graph. Anyone know?

    I used a combination of Paint Shop Pro and the Gimp. I'm actually interested in finding some kind of CVS graph program that would generate a picture like this from CVS data. It obviously wouldn't be able to predict the future but it should be able to build an image of CVS activity (branches, checkin volume, tags, etc). I have tried in the past to take some cvs measurements and use checkin volume to determine the thickness of the branch lines but it was just too much effort. If something like that could be done programatically I'd be as happy as a pig in shit. :)

    --Asa
  • by KjetilK ( 186133 ) <kjetil AT kjernsmo DOT net> on Tuesday August 27, 2002 @01:05PM (#4149636) Homepage Journal
    I'm running Opera, Mozilla and Konqi every day on my box now, and I really can't decide between them. Opera is a bit unstable and unfree, Konqi doesn't have tabbed browsing (will soon), and lacks a few other nice features too.

    Mozilla lacks something very important: It doesn't work smoothly with KMail which is my mail program of choice right now.

    Mozilla really needs to integrate well with other applications. Most importantly, it really needs a way to launch an application when users click on a mailto-link. This is bug 11459 [mozilla.org].

    Also quite important is that you can launch Mozilla and have it open a new tab (not window) from other applications. This is Bug 104204 [mozilla.org].

    I would encourage everybody to join in to get this working! :-)

  • by dgenr8 ( 9462 ) on Tuesday August 27, 2002 @01:13PM (#4149722) Journal
    Mozilla 1.0 has a setting for automatic software update notifications, which I have enabled. Why wasn't I notified of this?!
  • by snake_dad ( 311844 ) on Tuesday August 27, 2002 @01:16PM (#4149752) Homepage Journal
    Felipe already hinted at it: if you click the piemenu button, and keep it pressed without moving, some text appears explaining the icons. Consider them training wheels, you won't be needing them anymore soon for the gestures you use the most. They are helpfull for the options you use less often. The number that Felipe mentions appearantly controls the time it takes before the text items appear.
  • Re:That funky graph (Score:2, Interesting)

    by Nachtfalke ( 160 ) on Tuesday August 27, 2002 @02:21PM (#4150436) Homepage
    I don't know if it's quite what you are looking for, but cvsgraph [akhphd.au.dk] makes graphs from cvs repositories. Might be a good starting point.
  • by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday August 27, 2002 @02:22PM (#4150440)
    The relevant option is "Middle-click or control-click of links in a Web page".

    Since I'm using a laptop I only have two mouse buttons on the touch pad. Is there any way I can enable control-click to open tabbed windows _without_ having it take away my ability to open a link in a new window using my (simulated) middle-click? Thanks!
  • by indiigo ( 121714 ) on Tuesday August 27, 2002 @02:39PM (#4150601) Homepage
    I love Moz, but I just don't understand Everyone's attraction to tabbed browsing. The interface for a tabbed setting is slightly erratic and doesn't follow other window managers, Linux or Windows. If I'm using Alt+Tab in WIndows I will have between 5-10 windows open, and I can quickly tell what I have available. Tabbed browsing interrupts this process and doesn't give me a clear picture of windows contained on a standard interface across all systems.

    Everything else I love about Moz, and I use it 9/10 pages. In fact I copy addresses from moz into IE for things like images, shockwave, and msnbc.com that I want to see, and that's about it.
  • Xft support? (Score:1, Interesting)

    by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday August 27, 2002 @03:01PM (#4150800)
    Is there an Xft build of this, or has that been integrated into the mainstream yet? (I assume not, since I don't see it on the changelist.) After finally getting Moz 1.0 Xft set up, I won't use anything else... it's simply gorgeous, and MUCH better than the native FreeType support in the standard 1.0 for Linux.

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