Phoenix 0.5 Has Arrived 346
mattrix was among the legion of readers to submit news that "Phoenix 0.5 (Naples) has been released. New stuff since 0.4 includes multiple homepages, download fixes, history, size, memory, accessibility and performance improvements and more. Get it now for Windows or GNU/Linux (i686). Background info: Phoenix is a web browser based on the Mozilla engine, but smaller and faster than Mozilla Navigator." Multi-tab startup page seems worth the upgrade to me, all else aside.
just unzipped.. (Score:3, Informative)
nothing fscked up.
seems to work just as nice as before.
great job.
if somebody is still holding back.. try it, you'll be glad, especially if you like to have your browser SIMPLE & FAST.
Re:Where? (Score:5, Informative)
Tools/Preferences/General/Location(s):
You can enter the URL's separated by pipes (|). Or just click 'Use current page(s)' when you have your tab set open to the pages you want. It's way cool.
Phoenix forums, themes and extensions (Score:5, Informative)
Extensions are available here [texturizer.net] -- including radial context and mouse gestures.
Themes are available here [texturizer.net] and there's a beautiful page of similar-but-different themes here [freewebz.com].
Themes... (Score:4, Informative)
And don't forget to head on over to themes.mozdev.org [mozdev.org] for some tasty chrome! Orbit 3+1 is my personal favourite.
Best Browser (Score:1, Informative)
Mike
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This is the last Phoenix (Score:3, Informative)
0.5 will be the last release to be called Phoenix. Version 0.6, expected in January, will have a new name. And they really mean it this time.
Anti-Aliased Fonts for Phoenix on Linux/i386 (Score:5, Informative)
Xft Enabled RPMs and tarballs [ragweed.net] built under RedHat 8.
Xft Enabled tarball [mspencer.net] built under Debian unstable.
If you aren't running RedHat 8 or Debian unstable, then you may have to do some work to get these pre-built binaries to run.
I am running the Debian unstable Xft-enabled Phoenix 0.5 binary. It works just fine, and looks ever so good.
Re:Name Change? (Score:2, Informative)
From the FAQ [mozilla.org]:
Open New Tab (Score:1, Informative)
You can do the same thing with alt-enter in Phoenix.
Re:nice browser, but still too big (Score:3, Informative)
No, we have plenty more to trim out and we're slowly getting to it. Our current targets are 5mb for Windows and between 7 and 8mb for Linux, but these are just guesses. It's entirely possible that we'll beat those (case in point: we had previously targetted 6mb for Windows).
There is a reason they are called readmes...
Linux statically links GTK+ (Score:2, Informative)
But builds of mozilla and phoenix ports are consistently larger than their windows counterparts. Why?
The Linux port of Mozilla statically links GTK+ and Glib.
Re:what does phoenix look like? (Score:2, Informative)
The full screen bug is not fixed. (Score:3, Informative)
Window sizing is still a mess, and if I quit the browser in fullscreen mode, the next time I start it up and then go to fullscreen, the titlebar is rendered over the top of the screen making the window unmovable until I re-exit and restart the program.
Also, there is STILL no fullscreen button available in the toolbar customization options, forcing me to leave the mouse and go to the keyboard (F11) whenever I want to do that.
Oddly, in bugzilla I've seen references to a fullscreen button, but I have no idea what they are talking about.
It's also interesting that I submitted this story 10 hours ago (moments after the DL was available) and it was rejected. I suppose the
And finally, kudos to the Phoenix/Mozilla folk. It used to be that I always had to switch back to IE because there were things that only IE could do and I had to get them done. Starting with the 0.4 Phoenix release, I starting having to open up Phoenix from time to time to get things done because IE couldn't do them. Finally about two weeks ago I removed the IE icon from my quicklaunch because I just didn't use it any more -- Phoenix now does so many things that IE cannot do: Tabbed browsing, Password managing that actually works, spyware control though a decent cookie manager, no popups (!), obnoxious blinking banner add removal, bookmarks-menu-navigation all lined up on one toolbar, etc.
Try again (Score:1, Informative)
libdl.so.2 =>
libmozjs.so =>
libxpcom.so =>
libplds4.so =>
libplc4.so =>
libnspr4.so =>
libpthread.so.0 =>
libgtk-1.2.so.0 =>
libgdk-1.2.so.0 =>
libgmodule-1.2.so.0 =>
libglib-1.2.so.0 =>
libXi.so.6 =>
libXext.so.6 =>
libX11.so.6 =>
libm.so.6 =>
libstdc++-libc6.2-2.so.3 =>
libc.so.6 =>
Mouse Gestures in Phoenix (Score:5, Informative)
If, like me, you've been using Mozilla's mouse gestures feature for a while you're probably hooked. The good news it that they are available for Phoenix as well:
http://texturizer.net/phoenix/extensions.html#gest ures [texturizer.net]
Unfortunately there is no menu option to trigger them with the right mouse button (they default to being activated by the left button). If you want them on the right mouse button you will have to edit your prefs.js file. On Windows (depending on what version you are running) this can be found in C:\Windows\Application Data\Phoenix\Profiles\???\???\prefs.js
Before editing the prefs.js file you will need to install the gestures XPI, then restart your browser and shut it down again (this will create the default mouse gesture preferences in the prefs.js file). Now open the file in a text editor and look for the following line:
user_pref("mozgest.mousebutton", 0);
Change the number to 2 for right mouse button (or 1 for middle mouse button) and you're done.
a note on two posts below (Score:3, Informative)
2) I do not understand the description of the "fullscreen bug" post below. When I go to fullscreen, there is no window titlebar, because it is IN FULLSCREEN MODE. Why would you want to move a full-screen window around? Where would you move it to? When I exit in fullscreen and then start phoenix up again, and then go to fullscreen mode again, it looks the exact same. I have the option to minimize, close, or 'restore' the window in the upper right,which brings back the titlebar, and that works perfectly. What, exactly is the problem?
This is a fantastic browser so far... so much smooter than original mozilla or galeon, which I've loved for a long time now. The installation of new themes and extensions works almost flawlessly, excepting that occasionally replacing one theme with another results in only a half-success and requires more than one attempt. All of the new menu additions from the extensions site worked perfectly.
I am very impressed, considering this is still a .5 release. Rock on, Mozilla people. Keep these .1 releases coming.
Not faster (Score:5, Informative)
Re:Name change (Score:4, Informative)
14)
I kept hearing that you were changing the name from Phoenix to something else. What happened?
That was just a giant publicity stunt. We've observed that in the past, the open-source community has instinctively favored David when big corporations complain of trademark infringement. We wanted to cash in on this sympathy by asking the community to send us money to fight the legal battle (obviously we'd really spend it on cool stuff), but with all the taxing issues and whatnot we decided to can the idea.
15)
Uhhhh...really?
No, not really. This isn't like an action flick where the evil madman reveals the intricacies of his plans to hostages and then leaves them alone with a bomb set to detonate in like 10 hours. When we're ripping you off, we won't explain how in the FAQ. The truth is that we'd already had this 0.5 released planned for awhile, so it was okay to release under the Phoenix name. But under no circumstances will any future release be called Phoenix.
So it would appear that they will be changing the name for
Re:Pheonix vs Mozilla on Win32 (I prefer mozilla) (Score:3, Informative)
Just run "phoenix.exe -turbo"
Less Memory ? (Score:2, Informative)
- Jalil
memory footprint still the same... (Score:2, Informative)
Re:Performance improvements (Score:3, Informative)
If Mozilla or Phoenix ever forced me to "Check For Updates" with one of their releases, it would be the last time any of my computers ever loaded it.
Re:slashdot front page big fonts? (Score:3, Informative)
Slashdot uses antiquated HTML and CSS practices. Slashdot specifies font style and size explicitly. You can change font size with text zoom, which is CTRL + mwheel[up,down] or CTRL + [+,-].
In Preferences|Fonts and Colors, you can also specify minimum font size and DPI. Small fonts will not remain proportional if they're page-specified smaller than your minimum. Changing DPI will alter the number of pixels occupied per point size. Be wary of this, as most pages make the bad assumption that your browser renders fonts at either 72dpi (Mac) or 96dpi (PC). Slashdot is among these.
Font sizes have been the bane of W3 design since the <font> tag appeared, largely due to it. Calculating point size for monitors is convoluted to begin with. A point is 1/72 of an inch. Apple simplified this by making 1px equal 1pt. Pixels are, everywhere else, one-dimensional coordinates with color value, with no intristic dimensions or aspect ratio. So, on a PC, it's anyone's guess how many pixels per inch your screen is.
With CSS, we gain the ability to specify anything, including font sizes, in pixels, points, percents, millimeters, ems, exs, "absolutes". Most of them are out the window when DPI isn't knowable. Percentages, "absolutes", ems, and exes are relative, so they are usable. Ignoring Netscape 4, which got everything wrong: Percentages were fucked up by IE, absolutes by Opera, leaving ems and exs. One em is the height of the capital letter 'M'. One ex is the height of the lower case letter 'x'. Clear as mud?
I hope that was helpful and educational. I hope slashdot moves to XHTML 1.1. It's embarrassing that such a prominent site, proponent of standards, bemoaner of poor implimentations, should itself be guilty of poor HTML and CSS practices.
Re:Performance improvements (Score:2, Informative)
For me I just filter out all *.cab URL's, which takes care of all the Microsoft auto-updates.
Re:Performance improvements (Score:3, Informative)
Second browser option: "Check for Internet Explorer Updates". Amazing what one sees when they take 10 seconds to look. And out of the box, mozilla does check for updates.
Hacked Links Project --worth a look (Score:1, Informative)
Frames, graphics, SSL, JS, cookies, cut and past, and HTTP Auth at only 2mb.
http://xray.sai.msu.ru/~karpov/links-hacked/ [sai.msu.ru]
Re:slashdot front page big fonts? (Score:4, Informative)
Unfortunately not very well known, you can easily override all CSS, effectively disabling as much as you want. Customizing Mozilla [mozilla.org], completely applicable to Phoenix. This page covers a lot. Place overriding CSS rules on userContent.css, with '!important' after the rules, before the semicolon. Opera provides for this mechanism very well.
My Phoenix is Hiding in the Ashes (Score:3, Informative)
Phoenix with the pie menus, tab extensions and popup blocking has spoiled me. It has changed my browsing habits and expectations enough to make using other browsers annoying at best and at worst, well, lets just not say it. When I do need to run another browser (say IE for those pages that don't work right) it takes me about two pages before I'm ready to shoot it.
BUT! Caveat Downloader!
I just downloaded Phoenix 0.5 and installed the RadialContext extension. (Linux)
And now phoenix won't start. Or, more exactly, it starts, shows one of those incredibly annoying "Did you know...." hints window and retreats into the background where it spawns a bunch of threads and stops. I'll be reporting this as a bug, but would like to find a way to fix it (if possible) first so I can use the browser I've come to rely on.
If I don't load the radial context stuff (as now) the browser works fine.
Sigh.
MOD PARENT DOWN -1, Overrated (Score:3, Informative)
Re:nice browser, but still too big (Score:4, Informative)
Moving to gcc 3.2 (once the Sun people get off their friggin' asses and compile Java with it) will help perf and footprint a lot (15% improvement or so last I heard).
Re:Pheonix vs Mozilla on Win32 (I prefer mozilla) (Score:2, Informative)
Copy (StangeNumbre).s and (StangeNumbre).w from "C:\Dokuments and Settings\USER\Application Data\Mozilla\Profiles\default\BLABLA.slt" to "C:\Dokuments and Settings\USER\Application Data\Phoenix\Profiles\default\BLABLA.slt" then edit the following lines in prefs.js:
user_pref("signon.SignonFileName", "StangeNumbre.s");
user_pref("wallet.SchemaValue
Re:slashdot front page big fonts? (Score:3, Informative)
You should try 12pt Verdana. Times is a sans-serifed font, and sans-serif has been proven to be harder to read on computer screens.
In other browsers (incl. Mozilla) I'm much more often annoyed by spasms of tiny print. That may be fine for kids, but middle-aged eyes don't like it at all. Switch my default font size? Yeah, for every page I visit? cuz that's about what it would come to.
In Mozilla, you shouldn't need to, because it can resize fonts specified in pixels. Both IE and Mozilla (IIRC) keep you font size the same, so you don't have the enlarge it on every page.
BTW, there should be an option to have a toggle button on the toolbar that enables/dissables css., along with image and javascript toggles, having to go into the prefs each time is such a pain I never bother.
Re:Galeon (Score:3, Informative)
and Phoenix has about 150 search options. See mycroft.mozdev.org
--Asa
Re:Pheonix vs Mozilla on Win32 (I prefer mozilla) (Score:3, Informative)
30 seconds? What kind of hardware are you running? I see anywhere from 1 to 8 seconds on my fastest to slowest machines.
--Asa