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Mozilla Now Even Includes The Kitchen Sink 295

zzxc writes "Mozillazine reports that a 'kitchen sink' easter egg has been added into Mozilla by a patch to bug 122411. It shows an ASCII art animated kitchen sink. This was prompted by people complaining about Mozilla's bloat - that 'it includes everything but the kitchen sink.' You can see this xhtml demo by going to about:kitchensink in a recent Mozilla nightly, or at mozilla.org with an older mozilla build. Please note that this is not actually included in the browser package, so it doesn't add to mozilla's bloat. Instead, about:kitchensink directs the user to the xml document on mozilla's website."
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Mozilla Now Even Includes The Kitchen Sink

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  • by Anonymous Coward on Saturday February 22, 2003 @10:23AM (#5360103)
    Keep the kitchen sink. I'll settle for them fixing the fucking browser link problem.

    The back button is COMPLETELY broken now. When I press it, I get a fucked up rendition of the previous page - or it tries to load an IMAGE from the previous page. Or it tries to load an IMAGE from the existing page. Or I'll click on a link and instead of the link, I'll get the image that the link was around. Or I'll load/reload a page and it will have a TON of things convered into numbers/letters (hex?) like A57 D827 a123 - don't get me wrong - 1.3b is a great browser... as long as you have no intention of ever visiting a page you were already at and can tolerate 50% of the pages being fucked up as is.
  • by gmuslera ( 3436 ) on Saturday February 22, 2003 @10:32AM (#5360130) Homepage Journal
    There is not comparision. This not add bloat to Mozilla exactly, nor a lot of time to developers. In the Microsoft side, instead, you have easter eggs of the size of a flight simulator [eggscentral.com].
  • by cetan ( 61150 ) on Saturday February 22, 2003 @10:43AM (#5360151) Journal
    The Mozilla 1.3 branch has been closed in prep. for release. There's a mention of it on Mozillazine [mozillazine.org] as well.

    The outstanding bug list has been mirrored here:
    http://www.phule.net/mirrors/bugs-2003-02-22.html [phule.net] because it's not very nice to bugzilla.mozilla to link directly to it. At least not from /. :)
  • Re:kitchen sink? (Score:5, Informative)

    by 56ker ( 566853 ) on Saturday February 22, 2003 @10:46AM (#5360158) Homepage Journal
    And a comment like that would go amiss without a link to the ASCII pr0n archive [asciipr0n.com] - and for the people still reading this interested in Star Trek ASCII art - try here [calormen.com].
  • by ksheka ( 189669 ) on Saturday February 22, 2003 @10:46AM (#5360160)
    ...at least using the build I downloaded a few hours ago (Build 2003022108 on WinXP)
  • Re:Easter Eggs (Score:5, Informative)

    by damiam ( 409504 ) on Saturday February 22, 2003 @10:49AM (#5360167)
    about:config [about] will show all of your current preferences and (in recent builds) allow you to edit them. Other than that and about:plugins [about], I don't think there are any more interesting about: eggs.
  • Re:Easter Eggs (Score:5, Informative)

    by bheerssen ( 534014 ) <bheerssen@gmail.com> on Saturday February 22, 2003 @10:54AM (#5360186)
    There used to be more of these about: pages in the old netscape (4.x and lower). Most of them went to the home pages of various developers on the netscape project. The about:netscape page used to display a different quote from the Book of Mozilla. If you put something in that the browser didn't understand, such as 'about:whatever', the resulting page would read "Whatcha talkin' 'bout Willis?"

    Have a look here [fairding.com], they list most of the about: URIs, as well as some other forgotten easter eggs.

  • Re:In IE6 (Score:2, Informative)

    by JohnKFisher ( 518955 ) <johnkfisher@NospaM.mac.com> on Saturday February 22, 2003 @10:58AM (#5360198) Homepage Journal
    Page loads fine in Safari!
  • Re:Easter Eggs (Score:2, Informative)

    by bheerssen ( 534014 ) <bheerssen@gmail.com> on Saturday February 22, 2003 @10:58AM (#5360199)
    Here I go replying to my own post. What a dork ;)

    Anyway, if you want to try some of these tricks, you can get an old version of netscape from http://browsers.evolt.org/index.cfm/dir/navigator/ [evolt.org].
  • Re:In IE6 (Score:4, Informative)

    by ptaff ( 165113 ) on Saturday February 22, 2003 @11:39AM (#5360323) Homepage
    IE has trouble with XHTML. They spend so much time making sure people don't use standards...

    Have a google search with:
    site:w3.org xhtml "cannot be displayed"

    This is an old bug, Microsoft seems to be too absorbed with DRM to care about it.
  • Re:Easter Eggs (Score:3, Informative)

    by Cokelee ( 585232 ) on Saturday February 22, 2003 @11:48AM (#5360383)

    Using IE6, clicking that link results in going to res://mshtml.dll/about.moz the page displays nothing, but they took the time to make the background blue.

    <HTML>
    <HEAD>
    <BODY bgcolor="#000080" text="#FFFFFF">
    </BODY>
    </HTML>
  • Re:Better than IE (Score:2, Informative)

    by BlueWire ( 9674 ) <drew,card&gmail,com> on Saturday February 22, 2003 @12:04PM (#5360450) Homepage
    When I try the link [mozilla.org] in my IE6 I get... :

    ---
    The XML page cannot be displayed

    Cannot view XML input using style sheet. Please correct the error and then click the Refresh button, or try again later.

    Parameter entity must be defined before it is used. Error processing resource 'http://www.w3.org/TR/xhtml11/DTD/xhtml11.dtd'. Line 85, Position 2

    %xhtml-prefw-redecl.mod;
    -^

    ---

    Now is MS bitching about the W3 or Mozilla?
  • Re:Old news... (Score:1, Informative)

    by Anonymous Coward on Saturday February 22, 2003 @12:09PM (#5360472)
    Background colour will be blue. No text or anything.

    I don't get the joke, though. They are

    trying to simulate a BSOD crash? Huh? M$ may think Mozilla programmers are weenies, but if an OS crashes because of a browser, it's the OS' fault, not the browser's...
  • by Anonymous Coward on Saturday February 22, 2003 @12:12PM (#5360479)

    You can see this xhtml demo by going to about:kitchensink in a recent Mozilla nightly, or at mozilla.org with an older mozilla build. Please note that this is not actually included in the browser package, so it doesn't add to mozilla's bloat. Instead, about:kitchensink directs the user to the xml document on mozilla's website.

    No, it doesn't. If you read the later comments in the bug, you'll see that drivers@mozilla.org (the project managers) have vetoed about:kitchensink. It's not likely to get into Mozilla unless the patch can be modified so it only affects Mozilla (right now it affects most Mozilla-based browsers, including Phoenix, Galeon and K-Meleon). Even then, I still have doubts that it will get in.

  • by Anonymous Coward on Saturday February 22, 2003 @12:30PM (#5360539)
    A little history about about:mozilla:

    Every version of Netscape going back to 0.9 had the about:mozilla easter egg, where it would display a red screen and a funny fake bible verse.

    Early releases of IE poked fun at Netscape by having a blue screen with their own bible verse. At some point, they got politically correct and removed the bible verse, just leaving the bluescreen. Meaning it really has nothing to do with the Mozilla.org project, just crashy ol Netscape.

    However, nobody seems to remember what the IE bible verse was. So, if anyone has IE3.0 or IE4.0 out there, give about:mozilla a shot and post what it says.
  • Re:Old news... (Score:4, Informative)

    by CTho9305 ( 264265 ) on Saturday February 22, 2003 @12:57PM (#5360641) Homepage
    The thing is, EVERY other string produces a white screen with text on it. about:microsoft gives you a white screen and the word microsoft. about:foobar gives you a white screen and the word foobar. about:mozilla gives you a blank blue screen. changing any one letter of mozilla results in the white screen with the word on it.
  • Re:Linux? (Score:1, Informative)

    by Anonymous Coward on Saturday February 22, 2003 @01:46PM (#5360828)
    Now -- go to your Windows box. Transfer 8G out while getting 9G dumped to you while encoding a video stream while ripping a CD with the music playing and even have another operating system running to see IE6 about: mozilla all while posting to /.

    Besides being a grossly inefficient way to accomplish any of these one tasks, what are you trying to prove here? I can transfer files across the network while reading and writing files, passing data through codecs, and typing in a web client on any of the above OSes. So...Do you think Windows cannot do this? If so the Apple death ray has apparently struck your brain.
    I don't even like Windows, and I think you're a gimp.
  • Re:Easter Eggs (Score:5, Informative)

    by tom.allender ( 217176 ) on Saturday February 22, 2003 @02:03PM (#5360899) Homepage
    about:cache [about]
  • by slaker ( 53818 ) on Saturday February 22, 2003 @02:17PM (#5360966)
    Number of tabs seems to be dependent on your available free graphics memory. Most of my machines have 64MB cards in them, but one only has an 8MB card.

    Since it's my habit to visit voyeurweb.com and download everything I can find in a new tab (which usually loads about 10 60k images per page), I've discovered that I can usually open about 70 tabs before things go wonky.

    I close a few tabs, and things go back to normal.

    When I try the same thing with IE (LOTS of open windows since IE is teh l4m3 and doesn't do tabs), I usually get a crash or lockup at around 40 open windows.

    Anyway, on the box I have that only have 8MB card in it, the number of tabs full of pictures I can open is much, much lower. Maybe 10 or 12, before wonkiness sets in.
    The 8MB graphics-card machine is a Linux box with a Matrox G100. The rest of my PCs are running W2k or Linux with some higher form of ATI card.
  • by jedrek ( 79264 ) on Saturday February 22, 2003 @02:26PM (#5361006) Homepage
    I *definately* recommend you get linky [mozdev.org]. I actually don't browse porn as much as graffiti, but the 'open all image links in one new tab' feature is a KILLER, and it'll probably be even more so for you.
  • by bluephone ( 200451 ) <greyNO@SPAMburntelectrons.org> on Saturday February 22, 2003 @05:59PM (#5362035) Homepage Journal
    Look, this got way too much coverage. I'm the originator of the bug and the sink. The r= and sr= were removed until someone fixes the patches so this builds only in Mozilla. about:kitchensink will not work in ANY Mozilla distribution yet. Nor will it unles it's fixed.

    As for IE sucking a log on this, well, it's 100% valid XHTML and CSS with decent DOM use, so I'm not surprised IE won't view it.

  • Wrong! (Score:3, Informative)

    by Compact Dick ( 518888 ) on Saturday February 22, 2003 @07:46PM (#5362523) Homepage

    Phoenix has [almost always] shrunk over its releases. Here we go:
    1. v 0.1 : 8,519 KB [Win], 10,597 KB [Linux]
    2. v 0.2 : 7,624 KB [Win], 10,087 KB [Linux]
    3. v 0.3 : 7,188 KB [Win], 9,297 KB [Linux]
    4. v 0.4 : 7,223 KB [Win], 9,344 KB [Linux]
    5. v 0.5 : 6,225 KB [Win], 8,939 KB [Linux]

    The latest Win32 nightly is 6,320 KB and the Linux version is 8,964 KB.

  • Wrong color (Score:2, Informative)

    by yerricde ( 125198 ) on Saturday February 22, 2003 @09:26PM (#5362892) Homepage Journal

    trying to simulate a BSOD crash?

    Wrong color. The BSOD uses background color #0000AA (text mode color #1) by default, while about:mozilla uses #000080 (a bit darker).

  • Re:Old news... (Score:2, Informative)

    by yerricde ( 125198 ) on Saturday February 22, 2003 @09:28PM (#5362900) Homepage Journal
    "Mozilla" was originally short for "Mosaic killer".

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