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The Almighty Buck Technology

Inside SAIC 293

An anonymous reader submits this profile of SAIC, Science Applications International Corporation, the behemoth defense contractor/research outfit/spymaster.
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Inside SAIC

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  • Private Company (Score:2, Insightful)

    by Richardsonke1 ( 612224 ) * on Tuesday May 06, 2003 @02:26PM (#5893377)
    "SAIC is now the country's largest privately held infotech company"
    This is one company that i certainly hope never IPO's...imagine taking decisions about secret technologies to the stock holders...
  • by Blaine Hilton ( 626259 ) * on Tuesday May 06, 2003 @02:28PM (#5893393) Homepage
    If people are not paranoid about governments watching everything and placing every tidbit of information in huge underground databases then this is the article that will open eyes.

    I for one have never heard of this company before today and I'm pretty shocked. I've been pretty vocal about worries on TIA issues, but geeze...

    On the other hand perhaps it was better "before" when we the people didn't know about everything and just believed blindly in our government to protect us.

  • by WIAKywbfatw ( 307557 ) on Tuesday May 06, 2003 @02:37PM (#5893484) Journal
    This is one company that i certainly hope never IPO's...imagine taking decisions about secret technologies to the stock holders...

    What, like these companies?

    Boeing [wsrn.com]
    Lockheed Martin [wsrn.com]
    United Technologies [wsrn.com]

    Being listed on the stock exchange hasn't lead to these companies (and many others like them) being denied defense contracts or them leaking military secrets so why should you expect that to be a problem for SAIC?
  • Re:Huh?! (Score:3, Insightful)

    by Mr. Slippery ( 47854 ) <.tms. .at. .infamous.net.> on Tuesday May 06, 2003 @02:46PM (#5893570) Homepage
    The tough question is how much of civial liberty is appropriate to give away in the interest of national security?

    Zero.

    The purpose of national security is to secure the civil liberties of the citizens. Trying to trade civil liberty for national security is like selling your kidneys on the black market to raise money to buy health insurance.

  • by cje ( 33931 ) on Tuesday May 06, 2003 @02:47PM (#5893583) Homepage
    The interesting point about SAIC is the "private market" for company shares that the company itself maintains. How well does that really work for employees who don't want to have a disproportionate share of their savings tied to their company's stock?

    Well, for one thing, the 401(K) plan gives you a list of mutual funds/bonds/etc. of varying degree of risk to invest in, pretty much the same as any typical 401(K). You don't need to invest in SAIC if you don't want to (although you certainly can.) SAIC's company match is given in the form of SAIC stock, but that is hardly unusual.

    SAIC gives its employees lots of chances to buy company stock (and stock options), and it gives out things like stock options and fully-vested shares as performance bonuses, but nobody is required to invest their retirement savings in it. If somebody's got 100% of their retirement funds in SAIC stock, that's because that's the way they wanted it.
  • by pmz ( 462998 ) on Tuesday May 06, 2003 @02:50PM (#5893605) Homepage
    I don't know about the rest of you, but I've met a ton of people with great credentials who are morons and many non-degreed and non-certified people who are excellent people to work and deal with.

    Large corporations are machines. If you don't exist on paper, you don't exist at all.

    In all seriousness, if you were an HR person with thousands of employees to track, how would you track them? Get to know them around a campfire singing camp songs or, perhaps more conveniently, a datastore holding all your worthwhile attributes? If it isn't in the data model, it
    can't be worthwhile, can it?
  • by 4of12 ( 97621 ) on Tuesday May 06, 2003 @02:55PM (#5893641) Homepage Journal

    when you leave you're forced to liquidate all your holdings in the company.

    As long as the company size is growing or stable there's no problem here.

    What, pray tell, would happen if some big contracts didn't come through and a bunch of people were all let go at the same time?

    Seems to me, with the constrained marketplace for SAIC shares, you could get a big drop in the effective share price. The people going out the door would be doubly pissed: once for having been let go, once for getting a pittance for their shares as they depart into the ranks of the unemployed.

  • by dinnerkraft ( 663360 ) on Tuesday May 06, 2003 @03:34PM (#5894042)
    I almost fell for that one. I had to lookup ROT13 on google, then i came back to the "instructions" only to realize the hidden truth. Good one
  • Re:Private Company (Score:3, Insightful)

    by neitzsche ( 520188 ) on Tuesday May 06, 2003 @05:47PM (#5895442) Journal
    Don't lie like that!

    SAIC ***bought*** Network Solutions. Many many many years after the ARPAnet contracts. They then spun the stock off for a very handsome profit. They did not in any way help create the technology.

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