Apache Launches a J2EE Project

gstein writes "The ASF has announced the launch of the "Geronimo" project. Geronimo will be an Apache-licensed implementation of the Java J2EE specification; further, the ASF is committed to getting it certified as J2EE-compliant. The project is looking for developers interested in helping to carry this ambitious effort forward. See the original invitation that was sent out to many J2EE communities."

Seems like a good idea

[Arkham]

J2EE is a very complex standard. Of the J2EE containers that I have used (WebLogic, JBoss, and Resin), only Resin actually seems easy to set up and use. WebLogic is very powerful, but the learning curve is steep.

It would be nice to see a complete, certified J2EE implementation that's as straightforward to use as Tomcat.

Maybe I should join the effort. Maybe you should too :)

JBoss will be certified soon (really!)

[Rescate]

Don't know if you saw this discussion [slashdot.org] over in the Developers section. Looks like JBoss is finally making a concerted effort to move ahead with certification.

JBoss will be certified long before Apache's J2EE is finished, so Apache won't have the advantage of being the only open-source J2EE implementation.

However, I still think Apache's J2EE does have one big advantage--the Apache license. As others have pointed out, this could mean that we'll see Apache's J2EE code popping up in other vendors' products, ala Apache web server. This could strengthen Apache's position in the business world in a way that JBoss can't compete with.

launch of Apache?s Geronimo -good news indeed

[Miguel de Icaza]

Project ELBA [sourceforge.net] has the best summary ever:
ELBA is an interim but production ready enterprise application server written in Java. The goal of the ELBA project is to die by having all of its functionality replaced by the Apache Geronimo project.

apparently marc flowery is chomping over this. He has been flaming [magpiebrain.com] everyone all over the place, calling the people running appache hypocrites [magpiebrain.com], pulling CVS write privalages from core [coredevelopers.net] jboss developers, and trying to make out the LGPL has some kind of mystical closed source properties [magpiebrain.com] that no-one else can posibly understand or explain!
ha! how much do i loathe flowery, how i laughed as i downloaded allTheDocs.zip from kazza, now his empire is crumbling around him...

this puppy is gonna run and run!