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The Almighty Buck Technology

Mafia Tech Support 323

Mzilikazi writes "A story from Wired about performing tech support for the mob, mainly focusing on gambling. Some interesting information is presented about P2P applications. Frankly it sounds like fiction to me (you can already imagine the movie being made -- 'I Was a Hacker for The Mob'), but the story is interesting nonetheless and shows that if you're skilled and determined but have a flexible moral compass, there's a lot of job opportunities out there." I started reading it for the mob references, but kept on reading for the details of how to run an illegal gambling organization.
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  • Hmf. (Score:2, Informative)

    by BJH ( 11355 ) on Friday November 21, 2003 @01:49AM (#7526331)
    Essentially, the system acts as a market maker, matching up people who want to take different sides of a sports bet.

    He's got his terminology wrong. That's not a market maker, that's a *market*. A market maker is just someone who's required to offer a particular price on both sides of the book in return for some preferential treatment by the exchange.
  • You've been had! (Score:1, Informative)

    by Anonymous Coward on Friday November 21, 2003 @02:04AM (#7526409)
    The author is Simson Garfinkel? Yes, Simson Garfinkel [simson.net], who "holds three degrees from the Massachusetts Institute of Technology and a masters of science degree from Columbia University," is a "doctorial candidate at MIT's Computer Science and Artificial Intelligence Laboratory," and "still writes for Wired on an occasional basis."
  • by umofomia ( 639418 ) on Friday November 21, 2003 @02:09AM (#7526421) Journal
    The story is fiction. The author, Simson Garfinkel [simson.net] is a grad student at MIT. Do a search [slashdot.org] in slashdot's archives and you'll see him mentioned in the past on all sorts of stories. He's also written a bunch of O'Reilly books [oreillynet.com].
  • by Anonymous Coward on Friday November 21, 2003 @02:28AM (#7526498)
    I heard of 2 applications "for the mob". The most common code for the mafia is the usual "double book accounting" application. At midnight or from a hidden menu half the sales are erased, the tax to be sent adjusted and a number is shown to be removed, in cash of course. It never removes more than the cash in the register a lot easier in case of an audit.

    The other application is the other way around. At 6AM, the application creates "fake sales" for the previous day; I heard this specifically for video stores (own by the Hells Angels). A bunch of tapes that really spent the night in the store, indicated as returned during the night, and compiled for the 6AM opening. Why you ask? Money laundering. These "fake sales" produces clean money at the cost of the tax. The stores accepted cash only, and the owner simply adds the indicated amount in the register.

    I am always suspicious of stores that accept cash only! Or like that not too bright fellow who made 250K$ that year, with 4 peanuts distribution machines that takes only quarter, without ever bringing a single quarter to the bank, Only bills!

    The IRS had a good case!
  • by Anonymous Coward on Friday November 21, 2003 @02:51AM (#7526590)
    His main claim to fame is that he's the guy who burned a NeXTCube.
  • Re:Bunch Bull (Score:3, Informative)

    by dvdeug ( 5033 ) <dvdeug AT email DOT ro> on Friday November 21, 2003 @04:32AM (#7526809)
    Only a stupid law has turned what should be a perfectly legal activity into a crime,

    The government has to be involved, because if there's a hundred thousand dollars riding on a horse or a spin of a wheel, several people have quite a motivation in fixing that game. Historically speaking, they have often fixed the game. If you let every shyster with a deck set up a casino, there's going to be many stacked decks.

    On the other hand, in places like Las Vegas where gambling is mostly legal, you don't see legitimate casino operators putting out contracts on each others' lives.

    After one heck of a crackdown on organized crime. I spoke recently with an coroner who used to work in Las Vegas. Used to be 170 murders a year for a population of 1/3 of a million. Now it's 170 murders a year out of 2 million people. Gambling is high money and it's all about trust, meaning that the mob is likely to turn up where ever it exists.
  • by MacGod ( 320762 ) on Friday November 21, 2003 @04:53AM (#7526854)
    I can already imagine the movie about this...

    Ironically enough, just a day or two ago, a trailer for the Movie This Thing Of Ours [apple.com] came out, and it's about a bunch of mobsters who move into computer crime.

    Small world

  • by Anonymous Coward on Friday November 21, 2003 @10:09AM (#7527735)
    The company I came from before I came to work where I am now was owned by a mob family. They didn't have to do anything illegal due to a fairly lucrative government contract on which they were the only bidders. Think billions, folx. I for one don't buy into the whole 'the mob's not high tech' bit at all. I can tell you from first hand experience that we had 150 IT workers, a third of which were programmers, and ran a major ERP system to keep track of it all. In my time with said company, I never saw or heard of anything illegal happening EXCEPT that the two brothers who ran the business got into an insurance scam problem of some sort or another that quietly went away.

    Most remarkably though, it was just a job pplz. We did exactly what I still do today, worked on computers. Everyone quietly knew and understood that there was a murky history to the family that ran the place, but that for some prolonged period of time that at least this functional arm of their business was legit. Again, we're talking about a nationwide company here with > 1000 employees, not some closet apartment in Jersey...

    Why on earth would the mafia be interested in onshore bookmaking still, when its simple to setup offshore or internet based systems anyway? These people aren't dumb, and don't really remind me at all of the Sopranos. The one part of that article that made sense is that they really are very much like Jack Welch anymore.

  • Re:Average geek (Score:4, Informative)

    by skookum ( 598945 ) on Friday November 21, 2003 @10:49AM (#7528045)
    visual aid [virginthreads.com] for those of you, who, like me, had no idea what the fuck a red gingham dress was either.
  • Haven't RTFA but... (Score:3, Informative)

    by joggle ( 594025 ) on Friday November 21, 2003 @12:36PM (#7529063) Homepage Journal
    It depends on what you mean by 'talk'. If he simply claims to work for the mafia legally, they couldn't care less. For instance, my step-father worked as one of the IT department managers directly below an exec who was a member of a mafia family (over at Waste Management, a fortune 500 company). These people don't exactly hide the fact that they are in the mafia (that, by itself, isn't illegal)--the local police already know who's in the mafia as do the FBI, so it isn't like you're spilling the beans (unless you describe some illegal activities, which I would HIGHLY recommend not doing).
  • by SysKoll ( 48967 ) on Friday November 21, 2003 @01:28PM (#7529577)
    In Western Europe, many bars are operating video poker machines. These machines cannot legally pay back any money. All they do if you win is increase your balance and let you play longer.

    At least that's the theory.

    Various news reports regularly pop up about these machines beng used for full-blown casino-like gambling in bars. A common scheme works like that: Legal no-pay machines are bought wholesale from factories. Then the ROMs are changed. When the machine is installed in a bar, it is also wired to a switch located behind the counter.

    Customers "in the know" can ask the barkeeper to flip the switch. This changes the operation of the machine to a different game. The customer is credited a certain amount (e.g. $50). When he leaves, he pays or gets the game's balance at the counter.

    This is such a profitable business that a full-fledge gang war was raging last year in Southern France and Italy. At least one programmer was shot because he worked for the wrong people.

    Friendly betting my ass.

    -- SysKoll
  • Re:Wired lies (Score:3, Informative)

    by illusion_2K ( 187951 ) <slashdot@dissolve . c a> on Friday November 21, 2003 @02:20PM (#7530127) Homepage

    Yeah, except that the MicroSerfs article you reference was an excerpt from a Douglas Copeland book [amazon.com]. It was meant to be fictional and wasn't portrayed otherwise.

    It's also a great book. One of his best IMHO.

  • The facts may be changed to protect the "innocent," but the story is not a fabrication. I TA Ron Rivest's class with Simson, and he came in about a month ago and said, "So, I just interviewed a guy who works for the mob; it was really interesting..."

    Of course, the interviewee could be a fraud. I don't know what he may have done to prove his story.

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