The Future of Flight 280
Roland Piquepaille writes "With "High Times," the Economist delivers a very long and extremely well-documented article about the future of aviation during the next fifty years. It tells us about pilotless planes, with 32 countries currently developing more than 250 models of unmanned aerial vehicles (UAV), primarily for combat purposes. The article also looks at future civilian pilotless planes and at the future of personal aviation. But what captivated my attention in this article was the last part about future commercial supersonic and hypersonic (at least five times the speed of sound) planes. In particular, the Economist describes the HyperSoar. "The HyperSoar is a concept for a craft flying at ten times the speed of sound and able to reach any point on the globe within two hours." This overview contains more details and references about the HyperSoar which would fly from Los Angeles to New York in 35 minutes."
HyperSoar and Hyper-X (Score:2, Informative)
The only fly in HyperSoar's ointment is that its success is highly dependent upon Hyper-X [nasa.gov]. Note how similar the designs are.
Additionally, Hyper-X is designed to use the engine block as a heatsink. It will run for a few minutes (which is all it needs to do to get up to speed) and then the engine will melt and the aircraft will splash into the Pacific. I don't think that would be a good thing for a passenger aircraft.
Re:It's nearly 2004.... (Score:3, Informative)
Re:Flight sick? (Score:3, Informative)
- strong acceleration during take-off and climb
- low gravity during most of the flight, oscillating between 0.2 to 0.8 g, or maybe an alternation of weightlessness and 1g gravity. I'm sure most tourists would appreciate a free fall experience as a bonus
- strong deceleration during the whole approach
Re:Mach 5? (Score:5, Informative)
Oh, and flying upside down doesn't have a magical affect on whether or not you escape or not.
Re:flying cars (Score:5, Informative)
Re:2hrs...impressive!! (Score:2, Informative)
Saving time also means saving fuel (Score:5, Informative)
If the plane completes the flight in ten times less time than a conventional subsonic plane, then its engines are burning fuel for ten times less time as well.
Modern high-bypass turbofan engines have a specific fuel consumption (SFC) rate around 0.5 lb of fuel per lb of thrust per hour. Current liquid fuel rockets' SFC is around 10, and solid / hybrid rockets' SFC is around 5. But the concept of "pound of thrust" evolves with speed: for example, a reciprocating engine with a propeller will give you much more (approximately four times as much) pounds of thrust than the number of HP the engine develops, _at low speeds_. At 375 mph, you get one pound of thrust per HP. And beyond, you get much less. That's why high subsonic planes use turbofans and the slower planes still use propellers.
At supersonic speeds the fuel consumption per distance covered of a turbofan engine can grow as high as 3+, but that of a rocket engine does not grow with speed, so there's a given speed beyond which rockets are more efficient than turbofans.
Science Friday - NPR (Score:2, Informative)
They had 'experts' talking about why supersonic commercial flight isn't hot, explains where our personal aircraft are at, sub orbital flights, etc.
It was an interesting listen!
Sean
Re:According to my own virtual tests (Score:5, Informative)
Fighters are inherently unstable, to allow the radical combat sequences dictated by dogfighting. It's true some of the current fighters are unflyable without constant computer assisted tuning.
Large passenger jets ARE inherently stable. The use of computers to control the flight surfaces are dictated by demands for maximum fuel economy, which means constant re-adjustment of CG's, trim, and other parameters.
Nothing in their design prevents them from being flown on purely hydraulic controls in an emergency.
RTFA (Score:2, Informative)
Re:Environmental Issues? (Score:4, Informative)
A 747-400 has a range of about 8400 miles, and a fuel capacity of about 57,000 gallons. Multiply that by 410 seats, you get around 60 mpg per passenger. And Boeing's new 7E7 "Dreaminer" is touting much higher efficiency than any of their previous jets. Airbus is doing well too, with the new A380 and Rolls Royce Trent 900 engines. Fuel capacity of 82,000 gallons, range of 8000 miles, 555 seats. Thats around 55 mpg per passenger.
So those numbers are way better than the CAFE (Corporate Average Fuel Economy) standards in the US, currently 20.6 mpg I believe, not including the SUV's buzzing around the suburbs that aren't subject to those rules.
Hydrogen fuel cells would be great, but they're nowhere near production status for commercial transport flight.
hypersoar (Score:3, Informative)
35 minutes plus 150 minutes of overhead... (Score:1, Informative)
So, given today's commercial aviation environment and the way the Bush administration has made the US hated by even its friends, why would anyone even care at this point in time?
Too bad we let the terrorists terrorize us into this sad state of affairs.
Re:According to my own virtual tests (Score:2, Informative)
While it is true that modern fighters are inherently unstable, it is untrue that this is to add manoeuvrability. I have copied below an article, from someone who knows this better than me, in an attempt to stop this myth from continuing forever: