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David Byrne Subverts PowerPoint 150

NoData writes "The AP is reporting that David Byrne, visionary musician and frontman for 80s New Wave art band 'Talking Heads,' has turned Powerpoint into a visual art medium in a (satiric) DVD/Book combo. Says Byrne in the article: 'The genius of it is that it was designed for any idiot to use.'" Shades of Edward Tufte ("PowerPoint Makes You Dumb"), as the article points out. The book is published by high-end German publisher Steidl.
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David Byrne Subverts PowerPoint

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  • by zecg ( 521666 ) on Sunday December 28, 2003 @09:01AM (#7821399)
    A publicity stunt and a cheap one, at that. Someone is beginning to realize that the really important channels of information on the Internet are controlled by nerds and so washed-out artists are starting to jump on the fad train.

    This "DVD", it is obvious, is a cheap and quick way to get his name in the papers, if not to make a few bucks. The symbols that are described (such as Dolly the sheep enclosed on a PowerPoint page in quotation marks) sound... well, again, cheap.
  • by Anonymous Coward on Sunday December 28, 2003 @09:04AM (#7821410)
    Brian Eno did the much hated intro tunes to windhoos and now the talking heads are powerpoint pushers.
    I always found new age to be .... odd .... but now it seems it had no direction anyway.

    EVERY NORMAL ARTIST HAS A MAC IN HIS LIVINGROOM.
    ( i see it all the time on interviews. )

    Retep
  • by Anonymous Coward on Sunday December 28, 2003 @09:20AM (#7821445)
    What do you expect of that generation? They were self righteous and lazy when they were poor college students living off the 'rents. The only thing that has changed is that they have money and vote republican now.

    Of course they would find mindless post modernism produced with a corporate tool to be art . The "artists" of that generation just took a little longer to come around.

  • by NoData ( 9132 ) <<moc.oohay> <ta> <_ataDoN_>> on Sunday December 28, 2003 @09:49AM (#7821488)
    I doubt it. Byrne's pretty much an icon in art music, he just doesn't need cheap publicity. I think he's just wacky and quirky.

    And if there's anyone who's a "nerd" in music, it's Byrne. The new wave art rockers of the 80s were the nerds of music. Of his contemporaries, he's third in nerdiness only to maybe Mark Mothersbaugh of Devo or Thomas Dolby (She Binded Me With Science), who went on to form an interactive music software company [wired.com] in the 90s.
  • by NoData ( 9132 ) <<moc.oohay> <ta> <_ataDoN_>> on Sunday December 28, 2003 @09:52AM (#7821492)

    Three words:

    Warhol..Campbell's Soup.

    It's called "pop art." It's commentary. Not my favorite, but there it is.
  • by Anonymous Coward on Sunday December 28, 2003 @10:07AM (#7821509)

    Jemma at

    http://www.prate.com [prate.com]
    (well known in net-art circles)

    has done a few projects as .ppt the medium chosen is part of the artistic statement

  • by Anonymous Coward on Sunday December 28, 2003 @10:44AM (#7821591)
    Is it me, or has anyone else noticed how Talking Heads music doesn't age well? Some of my favorite music from that era still seems very relevant and exciting (Television, X, The Clash) while Talking Heads seem, well, dated.

    As for David Byrne shilling for MS, I don't think that's the case. I think he is shilling for himself, and PowerPoint is being used like it should be--as a sales tool.
  • old news (Score:4, Interesting)

    by SteelRat ( 11640 ) on Sunday December 28, 2003 @11:08AM (#7821658) Homepage
    see the wired article from about two months ago.

    http://www.wired.com/wired/archive/11.09/ppt1.ht ml
  • by ty_kramer ( 262524 ) on Sunday December 28, 2003 @11:29AM (#7821716)
    Here's [norvig.com] the famous, early take on PowerPoint being bad.
  • PowerSpeak (Score:3, Interesting)

    by sjames ( 1099 ) on Sunday December 28, 2003 @11:40AM (#7821768) Homepage Journal

    Powerpoint is newspeak for presentations. That is, because of it's dumbed down simplicity, making simple things effortless and everything else nearly impossible, it constrains what may be said. At the same time, by being so easy to use, it lulls the user into a sense that it is powerful and expressive to the point that they don't realize what it is that they can't say with it.

    Byrne is a linguist who finds himself in a world that speaks only newspeak. He is examining the logical limits of it's expressivity to determine what it absolutely can't say at all.

    It's an artistic challenge to express as much as possible in an artificially limited medium. It's a new take on a common theme in art.

    To reduce all of that to 'Byrne has become a Powerpoint fanboy' is to completely miss the point.

    Powerpoint is an ideal tool for modern sales technique in that it allows the user to say absolutely nothing but make it sound like a good thing.

  • by smitty45 ( 657682 ) on Sunday December 28, 2003 @12:26PM (#7821901)
    and they are hilarious, well done, and much different from what anyone would think of as a PowerPoint presentation.

    For those people who have only read the article, his "presentations" (if you can call them that) are cooler than I doubt any Microsoft or Apple could put together.

    Smarten up, folks...forget the medium, it's his content that is genius.
  • Content vs Medium (Score:2, Interesting)

    by jamesl ( 106902 ) on Sunday December 28, 2003 @12:38PM (#7821948)
    Saying PowerPoint is bad because people give mindless presentations with it is like saying newspapers are bad because all you've read is the National Enquirer
  • by baywulf ( 214371 ) on Sunday December 28, 2003 @01:57PM (#7822235)
    http://www.geocities.jp/nchikada/pac/
  • both sort of right (Score:2, Interesting)

    by TooLazyToLogon ( 248807 ) on Sunday December 28, 2003 @05:36PM (#7823476)
    "Microsoft spokesman Simon Marks wouldn't comment on whether PowerPoint has debased society but said in an e-mail, "PowerPoint continues to evolve to make it easier for customers to present their information in the style that best suits the content and the audience."

    So PowerPoint doesn't make you stupid. It just makes it easier to show how stupid you are. Used by a genius and the result is art. Used by the average Joe and the result inspires books like "PowerPoint Makes You Dumb". Both Byrne and Tufte are almost right. Their mistake was they focused on the tool not the user.

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