Eight Biggest Tech Flops Ever 627
cuppm writes "Yahoo! News has an article on the The Eight Biggest Tech Flops Ever.
'What distinguishes a simply bad product from the truly awful? Sometimes it's a dreadful user interface. Other times it's a product that successfully addresses a particularly daunting problem - yet one shared by relatively few people. And often competitive or financial pressure forces new products to market before they're ready - full of bugs and horribly unusable. Still other times, the products arrive too early. Eventually they become a success, but often after the founding company has been ruined.'"
RIAA? (Score:1, Interesting)
How could they forget... (Score:1, Interesting)
I'd also like to take this opportunity to wish all of my followers [slashdot.org] a merry new year. 2004 will be Michael Sims' last year as a Slashdot "editor."
Sincerely,
Seth Finklestein
Cyberweb Prognosticateur
AOL-Time Warner (Score:1, Interesting)
Mr. Case is laughing all the way to the bank...
Push (Score:5, Interesting)
Lame (Score:4, Interesting)
Some of the items on the list are flops, but the biggest 8--not hardly.
I'm sure that if we tried, we could come up with a better list of 8 flops..
Shit, OS/2 ain't even on the list. How about Taligent? Bill Gates himself said that Taligent was the one thing he worried about that ended up being absolutely nothing.
What about the Disney Sound Doohicky--It plugged into the parallel port, and gave some of the crappiest sound ever made on a computer.
The list certainly could have been better than that.
Toll Collect (Score:2, Interesting)
Snafu all the way.....
Two words: Microchannel Architecture (Score:1, Interesting)
Re:Yet... DivX missed how? (Score:2, Interesting)
That would have required another paragraph to be added just to explain the difference.
I only owned two (Score:5, Interesting)
Re:Lame (Score:5, Interesting)
Instead, why not try and think of some stuff they missed?
PCjr (Score:5, Interesting)
4-voice sound when most IBM-compatibles could only produce one sound at a time
16-color graphics when CGA (4 color) was standard
Video memory in system RAM - commonly used on many lower priced motherboards these days
Infrared wireless keyboard
Yeah, it was expensive and limited. But it also had some interesting advances.
--RJ
Re:People will hate me for this. (Score:5, Interesting)
This must be a troll, but I'll bite anyway (it's slow this morning). Sorry, but Apple ALWAYS played second fiddle to IBM/Microsoft in the "pc" market wrt market share.
Plus, even if your history weren't totally wrong, your premise is. Even if Apple went under today, the positive impact they had on the industry is far reaching and prevasive. Some of the particulars can be argued, but the fact is that computing in general is a better place thanks to Apple and therefore they can't be considered a "tech flop". After all, a "flop" doesn't last over 20years.
FAA Traffic control system (Score:5, Interesting)
Folks - that 1.5 BILLION wasted
MD-ROM format was a HUGE missed opportunity (Score:5, Interesting)
Re:People will hate me for this. (Score:4, Interesting)
WebTV sales stalled at a million users? (Score:2, Interesting)
Had they advertised, WebTV would be ubiquitous. If people buy WebTV, they're not buying a computer...they avoid the MS tax, no sales of office. I can't believe they put WebTV on that list. There are many people out there that buy computers to access the internet only. What better device for a novice user than their TV? I'm not being a proponent for WebTV, I'm just saying that WebTV was taking off up until MS bought it, then nothing. No ads, nothing. They drove it into the ground on PURPOSE!
Shoddy shoddy journalism.
Re:Mistake on Clik! Drive (Score:2, Interesting)
bigger flops still... (Score:1, Interesting)
Apple Newton
Apple Lisa
Next Cube
Be BeBox
CASE tools
"Object Databases" as a replacement to RDBMSes
VRML
Gopher
"English-like" programming langauges that will make programming as easy as speaking (COBOL)
"War room" programming
"Multimedia"
Graphics cards that allow you to watch television on your monitor, by plugging a coax cable into the card.
8" floppies
Interactive television
Integrating the PC with the TV
RS-232 serial port (25 pins, of which 4 are used)
WORM drives for PCs
QuarterDesk
Audio Cassettes for data storage
Commodore 16
Windows 1.0
PL/I
MSX
Dec Alpha "21164-PC" personal computer processor
"MPC-compliant PCs"
GeoWorks
Project Monterey (IBM, SCO, & some others)
Micro Channel (bus arch from IBM)
Most of these ideas failed because they were outlandishly stupid. The only reason they got any press in the first place was because the companies promoting them were good at hyping ("it's revolutionary!"), and some people just get caught up in the emotional hysteria.
A few of the ideas (Apple Newton, Apple Lisa) were excellent ideas that just were introduced too early.
Re:Yet... DivX missed how? (Score:3, Interesting)
Re:Um, like duh! (Score:5, Interesting)
Wait a minute (Score:3, Interesting)
I know one, precisely one, person who owns a NeXT Station. I know many who own WebTVs and Internet Appliances.
Oh, wait a minute... I get it now. There are links to buy iPods on the page. Can't bite the hand that feeds you, I guess.
LK
Re:Cue Cat (Score:5, Interesting)
I modified over 50 of them and sold them to customers with linux Point of Sale systems for resturants and small stores.
I was able to get barcode technology to businesses that could not afford it any other way. (A commercial keyboard-wedge barcode scanner costs $200-$500.00 I sold the cue cats for $25.00)
Cue cat's were excellent and luckily I got 2 cases of them forom the local radio shack when they were tossing the leftovers to offer free replacements to my customers...
(Yes, I have a freelance linux consultation side business/ General Computing consultation business on the side of my real job)
VideoPhones (once called PicturePhones) (Score:3, Interesting)
Number One should have been (Score:4, Interesting)
Wow, an electric wheelchair where you get to stand up... that's what Americans need is less exercise. Good thing you can fit 6 of them in your SUV.
Re:Hate against Kosmo? (Score:3, Interesting)
http://www.pinkdot.com/ [pinkdot.com]
Kosmo's problem was that it tried to do its service nationwide. Stuff like this needs to be done locally.
The Kosmo story is well-chronicled in this movie, e-Dreams. [imdb.com]
kozmo (Score:3, Interesting)
Apple's hit & misses (nobody's mentioned) (Score:5, Interesting)
The Newton is really neither. It wasn't really a money loser for Apple (but wasn't a money maker either) - we also have to consider that the CREATORS of the Palm and later Handspring moved on from the original Newton team. The latest Treo is essentially what I think the Newton would have become.
Three of Apple's biggest misses are actually some of the coolest products they've ever introduced:
1) Apple Set Top Box - it was going to be a Tivo/Media Server - almost 10 YEARS before they are starting to become mainstream. I have one of these boxes and was able to get some content working on them. Apparently Apple tried to market these to resort hotels (the info I've been able to run on the box was for DisneyWorld Hotels)
more info can be found at www.applefritter.com
2) Apple Macintosh TV - this was a really cool looking Mac/TV combo that was sold in the education market that is underpowered but again WAY before the time of this type of integration (by about 3 years)
3) G3 All In One - this was only distributed in the education market and was actually a better iMac (had PCI slots, floppy, zip, CD, A/V in and out and three NORMAL RAM slots) I use this unit as my TV - it has great speakers and I have recently been able to upgrade it to 1Ghz G4. This was out 8 months before the iMac
more info can be found at www.apple-history.com
Re:Mistake on Clik! Drive (Score:5, Interesting)
Still is. It's currently available as a pre-installed option on machines from many of the major PC manufacturers. (I'd say "most" or "all" but I haven't checked.) Iomega even took to using the "Zip" name on other products they sell, to take advantage of the trademark recognition. Zip drives had some problems (I'd still trust them over floppies any day of the week), and better alternatives are overtaking them, but they were hardly a "flop".
I nominate WAP (Score:1, Interesting)
Re:FAA Traffic control system (Score:2, Interesting)
Notice you hardly hear about Bin Laden anymore, and even better according to polls most people think Sadam was responsible for 9/11 or at least paid a big role in it. So as far as many people are concerned we did catch the bad guy and won a big battle in the war on terrorism.
Nevermind the whole thing is a lie and tail is totally wagging the dog (rent the movie and watch it if you haven't). We're wasting tons of money, the world hates us more, and we are no safer than we were before (arguably we're worse off because the terrorists have even more reason to hate us), and the terrorists are still free.
Another thing, people blew the whole 9/11 thing out of proportion. Granted it was a terrible tragedy but consider that only 3000 people died. Far far far more people die every year from other things like cancer, heart disease, poverty, auto accidents, etc. Why aren't these problems being attacked with the same zeal as Iraq? Heck 100 billion would go a long way toward cancer research, and at least then if I get cancer (much more likely than me dying in a terrorist attack) I might have a better chance of living.
Re:UH NO (Score:3, Interesting)
Myth. By the time Windows took off, with version 3.1, it was technically as sophisticated as the MacOS of the day, and the hardware it ran on was faster and cheaper. It lagged in UI design and stability - but don't you realise that one of the reasons Windows was less stable than MacOS was because it was doing more? It had real multitasking, for one thing, and virtual memory. Remember how MacOS X was initially very unstable? That's because it was doing things that OS 9 had never dreamed of. And that Windows had been doing for years.
Panther is now a stable operating system again. It's about as good as Windows XP, with a much nicer interface but worse support for commodity hardware (printers are a notable weak point). Mac hardware is priced about right again.
But don't go repeating the myth that Apple have always provided a superior solution. That was true before Windows 3.1, and it is true again since about Jaguar, but for the long years in between it was nonsense. Don't gloat too long, either... who knows whether 10.5 will still be better than Longhorn?
Re:What, no Apple ///? (Score:3, Interesting)
Now, the Apple III-- yeah, that one was a turd.
~Philly
Come on (Score:1, Interesting)
Yeah but ... who would have thought that anyone would pay much, let alone soda prices for bottled water?
Re:The Pen Computer (Score:1, Interesting)
Doctors do not prescribe it currently.
The ideal pen computer would have corrected both mistakes.
Next time you think you have made it to third base, remember to take notice of whether you have reached your own bum.
Re:PC Jr. (Score:2, Interesting)
I have in my collection the only PC Convertible I've ever known to actually have all 640K of RAM. Ram modules for it were expensive and hard to find. Most languished with 384K or at most 512K.
Legend has it there's a huge landfill somewhere full of PC Convertible parts and systems, because it was such a commercial disaster.
Re:Lame (Score:3, Interesting)
Infomercials aren't so bad. Back when I was a teenager, I used to know the guy who invented DiDi 7. I even beat him at connect 4 once.
But to the point, you can change the channel when an infomercial is on. Pop ups are damned intrusive.
IMHO, pop ups are worse, much worse than spam. I delete spam before I even read it. It takes no time, I spend so much more time closing pop ups than I ever did dealing with spam.
LK