2003: Year of Apache 440
John Chamberlain writes "Netcraft's numbers for the new year are in. The trend graphs tell a story: 2003 was the Year of Apache. If Time magazine had a server-of-the-year award the cover would be featuring a feather. Since October 2002 market share has grown from 53% to 64%, a 20% gain while Microsoft IIS, its nearest competitor has shrunk from 36% to 24%, a 33% decline. The change in server totals was even more dramatic. Apache HTTP Server increased from about 20 million to 32 million (+60%) while all other competitors remained flat."
A win for open source (Score:5, Insightful)
I'm sure that the same thing is happening thoughout the open source movement, but its just alot harder to measure the number of (for example) Linux installs when there is no central body that really collects data on this (not that there is any need for this).
So its representing a victory for much more than Apache.
Michael
Re:20 percent gain? (Score:2, Insightful)
TCO (Score:5, Insightful)
Basic technology such as web servers are on their way of being removed from the realm of competition. 2004 is promising.
Re:The platform they did the calculations on (Score:2, Insightful)
Build a better mousetrap... (Score:3, Insightful)
Additionally, any serious security bugs have been fixed with blazing speed. Compare that with the amount of time MS takes to patch a IIS hole when an exploit is found.
-S
Yes, but measuring webserver market share is hard (Score:5, Insightful)
Apache 2 runs well on Windows (Score:5, Insightful)
Re:Makes you wonder (Score:5, Insightful)
"across all domains" ? (Score:5, Insightful)
But perhaps the real story for 2003, as far as growth technologies go, is likely PHP [php.net]. The ratio of deployments and actual usage to press coverage of the technology is pretty impressive too.
Re:Yes, but measuring webserver market share is ha (Score:5, Insightful)
Re:Who *are* these guys? (Score:5, Insightful)
Kudos.
Re:I wonder, why... (Score:5, Insightful)
I've run apache on all kinds of systems, from the older pentiums you mention to big-iron Solaris systems.
The beauty is that it works on all of them. You tune some parameters slightly different, but you don't have to learn a new software because you're now hosting your site on a big machine.
Sorry, I applaud all the tiny-http-server efforts, but in real-life the only thing that I ever seriously considered was the kernel-httpd. That was for the image-server of a major dot-com site that made a several hundred hits a second at peak times.
Re:Mac OS? (Score:1, Insightful)
Re:Makes you wonder (Score:3, Insightful)
It's bit like the complaints from the record companies about how much money they lost to illegal downloading: the downloaders couldn't possibly afford to pay for all the music they download, so the actual losses are a lot smaller.
Viruses, Worms, and Exploits Are... Where? (Score:5, Insightful)
Alright - let's have it! Where are they hiding all the exploits? They obviously have waaaayyyyy more since viruses and exploits are dependant on popularity, not how well the software is engineered. Since Apache is kicking IIS's scraggly ass all over the 'net, it must have more exploits, right? No? Oh? So all those people that keep saying Windows suffers so much are admitting they're wrong?
Oh, that's right. IIS is also an FTP server, mail server, dinner server, and a cheauffer that takes your wife out on dates then screws her in your bed while you're out of town on business.....
... whoops.. sorry, go a little carried away there. Seriously - face it, that's a flaw. If the software wants to do everything, and, by doing everything, fails, it still failed, AND it failed BECAUSE it does everything. That means the Apache software is a better engineered web server and IIS is, well, a load of crap.
Sorry... a little bitter. If you've ever had to administer that horrendous piece of garbage IIS you'd understand. I think, perhaps, the reason Apache is whooping up on IIS is that IIS is so ludicrously twitchy and convoluted. Normally, I'd say point and clicky interfaces are easier to manage, but god... setting something up in IIS that's not set up by default can result in tremendously time-wasting efforts searching through numerous, poorly labeled, badly designed interfaces. Apache? Whip out a reference book, type in a few lines, and you're done. Even if you have to restart the system, it's not much hassle. I've NEVER managed to shut down IIS and bring it back up on Win2k where it didn't stop responding and, eventually, chew up all the resources on the box forcing a hard reboot of the whole system. That pisses off SQL Server which then fucks up the TrendMicro stuff... Ick.
Long story short? IIS sucks and few (smart) people debate that whether they're pro-Microsoft, pro-*nix, pro-Mac, or, smarter than any of them pro-whatever-works.
Re:Yes, but measuring webserver market share is ha (Score:3, Insightful)
Thanks to the blaster outbreaks and the growing number of vpns these servers are now shielded off the regular internet. And thus the number of IIS in Netcraft's reports declines..
Re:Apache is racist. (Score:3, Insightful)
Now, for a long time Americans were fed with the not-exactly-true fairy tale about the Mayflower settlers, who arrived to a no-man's-land. It was not a no-man's-land at all. It had its native inhabitants and they were, indeed, conquered. But the British Islands were not a no-man's-land neither, when the William the Conqueor arrived, and he is still regarded as hero.
There's nothing racist in Apache, just as there's nothing racist when modern Britons use greek, latin, saxon or celtic words. Or when modern Italians use the name La Fenice (="country of Phoenicians") for an opera.
Sorry for feeding trolls.
Re:Yes, but measuring webserver market share is ha (Score:2, Insightful)
These surveys also do not count the millions of intranet-only sites that these servers serve, and given the nature of the beast, I'm going to guess IIS is rather prevalent in that market.
I have recommended IIS-based solutions before, and given the same requirements, I'll do it again.
Bzzzzt. Thanks for playing (Score:1, Insightful)
You've listed 4 Apache installations. Big deal.
> But I'm certain that for every half-assed amateur using
> Apache there are 100 admins who run Apache for
> mission-critical stuff and don't bat an eyelid
Would you like to say that sentence to a CEO or an IT manager in your government?
Fanboy comments like this are not enough to get Free Software into government offices.
Also a win for FreeBSD (Score:5, Insightful)
"Seven of the top nine sites run on FreeBSD." That's right, folks. NOT Linux. Don't get me wrong: I don't believe Linux sucks. But there's something to be said here by this data, and I don't feel Linux should get all the current press simply because Linux got all the past press. FreeBSD does amazing things, is used all over the place, has many technical merits not seen elsewhere, but Linux overshadows it because of inertia and the fact that Linux users yell louder. This is sad. Last I knew, Windows won out due to inertia as well, not technical reasons, and we condemn it for that. Must we be hypocritical a second time around?
I know this is Slashdot, but c'mon... would it kill you to put a positive article about FreeBSD on the front-page?
Netcraft confirms it: FreeBSD is quite alive and kicking.
Backwards (Score:3, Insightful)
I think it's the other way around -- people choose Apache so they don't have to run Windows. It's probably not a coincidence that 2003 was also the year of the Windows Security Patch.
Re:Yes, but measuring webserver market share is ha (Score:5, Insightful)
Are you sure you don't mean 'sites where administrator is too incompetent to turn off the default install of IIS'?
You know, all those sites that have plagued the internet with various worms and other security holes over the last few years?
and given the nature of the beast, I'm going to guess IIS is rather prevalent in that market
I don't disagree. I rather think IIS dominates at these sites.
Even higher praise for free software. (Score:3, Insightful)
Microsoft's TCO campaign is a last ditch effort to maintain market share. It's mostly a lie, but it's damaging to them even if true.
Assume they are telling the truth. I know that it's hard to keep a straight face reading that, but think of what it means. WHERE TECHNICAL MERIT IS THE DECIDING FACTOR, FREE SOFTWARE IS OVERWHELMINGLY PREFERED DESPITE HIGHER COST. Most companies ask themselves what a failed web site will cost them. The answer generally dwarfs the cost of the sofware and it's upkeep.
Of course, we all know that it costs nothing to aquire free web servers and less to keep them up than their non free counterparts. That's just the way good software works.
The same thing is true on the desktop. Most small businesses with a brain have a reseller to help them out with technical issues. Free software, when adopted there, will prove both cheaper and more reliable. Small businesses that dabble with HPs and their own M$ based IT are wasting time that would better be spent on their real business. The reseller may appear more expensive up front than trundeling down to CompUSA, but he's not. Resellers that move to free software are going to enjoy cost, feature and performance advantages that the 2003 server fanboys can only dream of. The same can be said of larger IT shops that can afford to do IT themselves, like ummm IBM [slashdot.org]
Microsoft's FUD campaign is running out of steam. They have tried all of this before and people are no longer listening.
It's actually even worse than that for Microsoft (Score:3, Insightful)
The figures you've quoted from my site [cabalamat.org] are accurate, but the situation for Microsoft is actually worse than that. When considering that Microsoft got 19% of new websites in 2003, it's worthwhile to consider that up to the end of 2002, Microsoft had a total of 24.74% of active sites.
This means that not only is Microsoft's share only 19%, Microsoft's market share is going down and Apache's is going up. Although Apache can run on MS Windows, it is nearly always run on Unix systems. The most popular Unix is Linux, which is busily replacing the proprietary Unices. So if Apache's share is going up (which it is) Linux's share is going up even faster:
I don't have figures as to whether this is also the case for other types of server, but I strongly suspect it is.Re:Yes, but measuring webserver market share is ha (Score:5, Insightful)
Historical: Even though most people use Windows, those that actually know about computing using UNIX (for us, this used to be HP-UX, now it mostly is Linux). It are the latter ones who more than likely started the intranet effort long before management knew what a network was (over here, I myself was involved in our first intranet look-alike long before the word reached the trade-press).
Technical/Economical: If you use Apache for your external site (as we do), than it bloody well makes sense to use it internally as well, instead of wasting time and money maintaining two knowledge skills.
Intranet Reliability (Score:5, Insightful)
Of all the intranets we install and service for small to large businesses, 100% of them run Apache. That's about 3-4 servers per month, and growing. We know 4 of the 5 competitors in our market, very well. For the vendors we know, all install Apache, exclusively.
Yes. Thanks to the "blaster outbreaks and the growing number of vpns", Apache is also rapidly growing inside the LAN market space.
Re:Also a win for FreeBSD (Score:2, Insightful)
> inertia as well, not technical reasons, and we
> condemn it for that. Must we be hypocritical a
> second time around?
Don't forget though, that linux "winning" != freebsd "losing"
Right now, linux/bsd are obviously Not Windows when it comes to the PHBs. If linux makes it to top-of-the-heap, freebsd is right there in line behind it. It may irk you that linux is not right behind freebsd instead, but don't pull down the friendly competition in the attack against the opposition. This town is big enough for the both of us
-Mark
Re:Yeah, but (Score:1, Insightful)
How long has Apache been the market leader?
Seems strange that, as webservers go, IIS seems a lot more vulnerable.
Apache Jakarta: major in java world (Score:2, Insightful)
Struts is an MVC framework that even includes tools to generate javascript validation code. This is a very common method to create a model 2 architecture J2EE site. Tomcat is the standard in open source servlet containers and often refered to as the reference implementation on a JSP and Servlet spec. Cactus is for unit testing J2EE components and is starting to become more popular.
If you intend to program java, then you should visit the Jakarta [apache.org] site.
As for who these people are, there are usually some pages on a project to mention that sort of thing. I'm most familiar with struts and their page for that sort of information is the volunteers [apache.org] page. Ant is already the defacto java build tool. Originally designed as a replacement for make, it's abilities can be extended using java classes.
Jakarta and Apache projects will continue to be a source of innovation, especially within the java world.
Paul Sundling
Re:It's tricky, alright (Score:1, Insightful)
Re:Yes, but measuring webserver market share is ha (Score:4, Insightful)
That's one of the nice things about Apache. Running Apache doesn't mean running the same Apache that someone else does. mod_perl, Jakarta, mod_php, mod_whatever are all competing with each other. Apache is essentially a platform, not just a server.
TCO is badly mis-understood. (Score:4, Insightful)
TCO is NOT applicable between companies UNLESS they are practically identical (same number of techs with the same training managing the same number of servers with the same OS's running the same apps (not similar apps, the same apps) for the same number of users, connected in the same fashion (wireless, wired, VPN'd in, etc) using the same desktop OS, etc).
Usually, TCO will come down to human maintenance (and floor space, cooling, etc) and licensing costs.
Neither Migration Costs nor TCO take into account money lost when the server is DOWN!
Microsoft usually does the following:
#1. Incorrectly includes training for other products as TCO instead of Migration.
#2. With #1., they do NOT include training on Microsoft products (assumes people already know it).
#3. Ends the "period" prior to the NEXT round of license expenses.
The Migration Costs (plus) the annual TCO (minus) downtime savings = $$$ You have to get from ROI.
TCO is MEANINGLESS when used by itself.
-and-
TCO is usually calculated incorrectly anyway.
The REAL issue with Open Source is the MIGRATION COST because so many people have apps that they depend upon that must be ported.
Which is why Microsoft does tries to confuse the issue with bogus TCO claims.
If you focus on the MIGRATION COSTS, you can handle them in smaller chunks over a longer period of time. Bit by bit, move your systems over to Open Source based servers and services.
Re:Sends binary files as text/plain MIME type (Score:3, Insightful)
RAR and Windows Media do not appear to actually have registered types AFAICT. I admit that sending unknown things as text/plain is a pain for users, but I think the solution is for all common file types to get registered as some MIME type, not to bitch at the webserver. Please feel free to correct me if you can find them here:
http://www.iana.org/assignments/media-type
IIS sends unknown stuff as application/octet-stream, but that seems screwy to me - why treat an unknown file as a binary appication? If has an extension but it is not '.exe' chances are the file is not 'application/octet-stream'.
BTW - changes to Mozilla to check the file content for unprintable characters hit the trunk recently so Mozilla and Gecko based browsres will handle text/plain files that are not compliant to the text/plain type, and download them instead of displaying them.
is this really good? (Score:3, Insightful)
But what I'd really like to see is a lot more diversity in web servers. Apache is a reliable, robust, efficient server, but it is only one, very specific way of serving web data and it has tons of quirks as well (starting with its configuration files).
Having Apache open makes it easier to innovate based on it. But I think it would be even better if more people did something altogether different rather than just plugging into Apache.
Um, sure, it's free (Score:3, Insightful)
Re:Yes, but measuring webserver market share is ha (Score:3, Insightful)
What other features can we gush about? Oh my god, it serves HTTP too? That's awesome! Can it talk to the filesystem and actually keep a log of the HTTP accesses, though? That would be really amazing.