From Silicon To Microprocessors 174
prostoalex writes "Jim Turley from Embedded Systems Programming magazine answers the question of where microprocessors come from. While the public generally knows about the silicon and microprocessor vendors, few can describe the process of turning the beach sand into the latest and greatest several-hundred-dollars-worth CPU."
Re:Clean Rooms (Score:2, Interesting)
Man, I'm old! (Score:5, Interesting)
Leaves out the meat... (Score:5, Interesting)
Why just square chips? (Score:5, Interesting)
For an example, let's look at a 200mm silicon wafer, which has about 986cm2 of surface area. That's about the size of a salad plate. Let's say your chips are square (most are) and they measure 10mm on a side?that's 100mm2 per chip. If the silicon wafer was also square you could fit 986 chips on your wafer. Alas, wafers are round so you can really only get about 279 chips on a wafer.
I guess the obvious question, since using squares on a round wafer wastes a certain amount of silicon, is why squares? Why not build a hex grid? That would seem to maximize the usage of the available area.
But then, I suppose cutting them out would be significantly more difficult.
What about triangles, then? Straight lines up and down, and in one (or both) diagonal directions.
On the other hand, someone's already thought of this:
Intel's old i960MX microprocessor was octagonal. It was so big its corners had to be cut off.
So my idea has an obvious flaw. The question is... what is it?
This doesn't make sense... (Score:5, Interesting)
I thought big screen TVs were "blurry" up close because they had fewer pixels per area. Besides... in this case, you wouldn't be making the image bigger, you would just be making a LOT of tiny images at once. Can someone either explain how his explaination makes sense, or what the real reason is?
I seem to recall.... (Score:1, Interesting)
As he explained it he never mentions how the pattern get burned into the silicon. Tsk tsk.
Shape of the Chip (Score:2, Interesting)
But then, I suppose cutting them out would be significantly more difficult.
What about triangles, then? Straight lines up and down, and in one (or both) diagonal directions.
Well, NVidia discovered rotating them 45 degrees give them a diamond instead of a square. Think they're onto something?
Re:Mistakes? (Score:1, Interesting)
Most of your "errors" are missing details at best. This article provides an excellent introduction to the technologies, so quit being so pedantic.
Re:Too elementary... (Score:1, Interesting)
recognizing people in bunny suits (Score:3, Interesting)
uhm... (Score:2, Interesting)
Or why even flat chips? (Score:2, Interesting)
Ball Technologies [ballsemi.com]
burnin
Re:tinker-toys (Score:3, Interesting)
Perhaps that is the case if you are a l33t g4m3r. Which I suspect you are.
If you are running a nationwide medical record database with 8000 concurrent users (I am), there is NO intel machine ANYWHERE that can handle the load.
The current crop of Itanium or Xeon servers (even 8 and 16 way) cannot even come close to the performance of the GS series Alphaservers. Not even close. Not for processing power, and definitely not for memory bandwidth. What happens when you need 32 or 64 CPU's? Or more than that even? Sorry Charlie - intel servers are tinker-toys when compared to the big-iron of today.
correct (Score:2, Interesting)
But this may not always be the case. It may be headed for an implant step. A nice electron beam zaps the wafer while it is laced with boron, or arsenic, etc.
burnin
Re:Leaves out the meat... (Score:2, Interesting)
Of course these same people have been working in the industry for 20+ years and have more than earned a PhD with all the work they've done bringing the industry to where it is today.
I just want to make sure you don't scare anyone away making them think they have to get a PhD in physics to get into the biz.
And you are definitely on target about the diversity. I think you could take the work force from a semiconductor fab and throw them into just about any technical business and they would have the skills within the team to get the job done.
burnin
Re:Whose Power PC? (Score:1, Interesting)
(posting anon as I might be totally wrong)
Re:Why just square chips? (Score:2, Interesting)
Indeed, and in fact, this is one of the reasons why we need the International Space Station, because as it turns out, certain crystallization/sillication (whatever its called, apologies to the chemists...) processes, in a micro-gravity environment, are a lot easier to control in a fashion which produces high-yield, multi-dimensional composite core materials. At micro-nano-levels, gravity definitely takes its toll
ISS gives us more details on how to control some of our common processes for constructing these sorts of materials, and the more we know about that, the easier it'll be to build the orbiting CPU-factories that will then lead the way to nano-assemblies and beyond