Mono Poises to Take Over the Linux Desktop 925
Edd Dumbill writes "Miguel de Icaza and the Mono team recently hosted a two day open meeting in Boston. O'Reilly have just published
my report of the meeting. Highlights include
Miguel's view that 'C is dead!' and the Mono approach
to dealing with Microsoft patents on .NET."
C is Dying? (Score:5, Funny)
Wayne's World (Score:5, Funny)
c is dead... (Score:4, Funny)
*put up flame shield for Miguel* (Score:2, Funny)
WTF?!? (Score:4, Funny)
by Edd Dumbill
Why the hell would I believe someone with the name of Edd Dumbill?
That must be the "Alan Smithee" of the so-called "tech writers." It's probably just dumbshit Alan Seeburgh in disguise, playing hooke from CNN.
Linux contracts mono? (Score:5, Funny)
Exploits (Score:3, Funny)
Re:C is not dead (Score:2, Funny)
(not really)
hey... (Score:3, Funny)
Re:C is dead? (Score:1, Funny)
This has been a public service announcement from the Preservationists for the Society of Pascal Users (PSPU).
Thanks
Johnny Pascal
What Linux desktop? (Score:3, Funny)
What language is .NET written in ?? (Score:5, Funny)
perl
python
ruby
Re:C is Dying? (Score:3, Funny)
Whigs (Score:1, Funny)
Miguel is dead! (Score:5, Funny)
Re:Linux contracts mono? (Score:5, Funny)
Re:Isn't Miguel Icaza gay? (Score:2, Funny)
Pascal? Not a chance. Cobol and Fortran will rise from the ashes and take over the world!
Equation (Score:1, Funny)
Netcraft confirms: C is DYING (Score:5, Funny)
One more crippling bombshell hit the already beleaguered C community when IDC confirmed that C market share has dropped yet again, now down to less than a fraction of 1 percent of all servers. Coming on the heels of a recent Netcraft survey which plainly states that C has lost more market share, this news serves to reinforce what we've known all along. C is collapsing in complete disarray, as fittingly exemplified by failing dead last in the recent Programming Language Usage Audit.
You don't need to be Scott McNealy to predict C's future. The hand writing is on the wall: C faces a bleak future. In fact there won't be any future at all for C because C is dying. Things are looking very bad for C. As many of us are already aware, C continues to lose market share. Red ink flows like a river of blood.
C++ is the most endangered of them all, having lost 93% of its core developers. The sudden and unpleasant departures of long time C developers Mark Markup and Sally Smith only serve to underscore the point more clearly. There can no longer be any doubt: C is dying.
Let's keep to the facts and look at the numbers.
C++ leader Theo states that there are 7000 users of C++. How many users of C# are there? Let's see. The number of C++ versus C# posts on Usenet is roughly in ratio of 5 to 1. Therefore there are about 7000/5 = 1400 C# users. C++ posts on Usenet are about half of the volume of C# posts. Therefore there are about 700 users of C++. A recent article put C# at about 80 percent of the C market. Therefore there are (7000+1400+700)*4 = 36400 C++ users. This is consistent with the number of C++ Usenet posts.
Due to the troubles of Redmond, abysmal sales and so on, C++ went out of business and was taken over by Microsoft who sell another troubled programming language. Now C# is also dead, its corpse turned over to yet another charnel house.
All major surveys show that C has steadily declined in market share. C is very sick and its long term survival prospects are very dim. If C is to survive at all it will be among language dilettante dabblers. C continues to decay. Nothing short of a miracle could save it at this point in time. For all practical purposes, C is dead.
Fact: C is dying
Re:C is Dying? (Score:4, Funny)
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Important comparisons between .Net and Linux (Score:5, Funny)
1) When people think of ..., or "mono," they often think of extreme tiredness as one of the major symptoms associated with this illness.
Ditto
2) Loss of appetite and generalized weakness also may be present, especially in adolescents. Nausea, hepatitis, jaundice, severe headache, stiffness, chest pain, and difficulty breathing can occur in some cases. A pink rash can occur all over the body in children who have been treated with ampicillin or amoxicillin.
ditto again!
3) Some may experience extreme fatigue, staying in bed for more than a week because they feel too weak even to walk around the house.
We're three for three (esp. after a failed Windows update session...)
4) 'Mono' is generally a self-limiting disease, which means it goes away on its own in most cases. Occasionally mono can cause complications
Need I say more...
5) Epidemic outbreaks in hospitals and workplaces have occurred.
` My biggest fear! Remember kids - practice safe computing!
Re:Um, no. (Score:5, Funny)
Anything other than MFC would triple your productivity.
Re:Platform Independence (Score:5, Funny)
Don't bogart that joint, my friend. It sounds like good shit!
Of course C is dead... (Score:2, Funny)
Re:Miguel is dead! (Score:2, Funny)
C is dead (Score:5, Funny)
Enthusiasm (Score:5, Funny)
Latebreaking news flash! A reporter attends a Mono lovefest and discovers that the attendees are having a lovefest!
Re:Miguel is dead! (Score:2, Funny)
Re:C is Dying? (Score:5, Funny)
Re:.NET (Score:5, Funny)
"I realize that this is an unpopular opinion here on Slashdot, but C# is actually a pretty cool language and the
Mono? (Score:4, Funny)
Re:C is Dying? (Score:2, Funny)
Re:Please MS punish us? (Score:1, Funny)
Re:Miguel is dead! (Score:5, Funny)
C is a language with the flexibility and speed of assembly combined with the ease of use of assembly.
Re:.NET (Score:5, Funny)
Re:.NET (Score:4, Funny)
Re:C is dead (Score:3, Funny)
Anyone who wants can even go and look at the scrolls [ibiblio.org].
Re:c is dead... (Score:2, Funny)
Re:Miguel is dead! (Score:1, Funny)
-The Dead
Re:Netcraft confirms: C is DYING (Score:1, Funny)
Re:One thing you need to know about DeIcaza.. (Score:3, Funny)
My old man used to tell me, before he left this sh*tty world, never chase standards or women. You'll get left behind every time.
Re:Miguel is dead! (Score:2, Funny)
Re:Trust me. (Score:1, Funny)
Funny, VS is the thing I hate most about
I press ESC more in VS than I do in
Of course, I could just turn intellisense off, and if the libraries made any kind of sense, I definitely would. But with this confusing POS, I would be using 80% of my time searching the help, instead of the current 40%.
hey look (Score:4, Funny)
apt-get install apache
verily... bash has gazillionized my productivity... it used to take me over six months to write a decent web server.
Re:c is dead... (Score:2, Funny)
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"C is dead" -- Miguel de Icaza ?? (Score:3, Funny)
"Miguel de Icaza is dead" -- C
Re:C is Dying? (Score:2, Funny)
Re:No language can replace C ... (Score:2, Funny)
OneOfTheBigReasonsThatI DislikeJavaAndC PlusPlusOrAtLeastThe WayTheyAreCommonlyProgrammed IsTheStandardizationOf LotsOfNamesThatAre HardToReadBecause OfBeingAllJammedTogether. YesItCanBeReadButI FindItSlowsThingsDown AndIsMoreStressfulToDoSoI JustDoNotLikeItVeryMuchAtAll.
Re:C is Dying? (Score:3, Funny)
Because of this, after graduation you can expect to be unemployed because you don't know any modern programming languages.
But perhaps you can learn Java and C++ on the unemployement line from all the unemployed Java and C++ programmers.
Re:C is Dying? (Score:2, Funny)
- Indiana Jones
Re:C is Dying? (Score:2, Funny)
>Oh great. Now one can proudly say "I write with P".
Big deal. I've been writing with P for years on the 'snow' framework.
m.m.
Re:Miguel is dead! (Score:2, Funny)
Did anyone else other than me who was doing MSVC6 projects in 1998 suddenly get real worried that this guy was stuck working on your old code?
Just in case: Sorry, Pete. I can only claim extreme ignorance and inexperience, and offer you all my sympathy.