GeCube All-In-Wonder 9600XT 128M/TV/FM 109
An anonymous reader points to Hexus.net's review of ATi's newest All-In-Wonder product, writing "This looks like a rather nice product if you're running an XPC or similar." He excerpts from the review "It doesn't need an external power source, instead it's quite happy sucking from the AGP slot. The end result? Small form factor PC owners will quite happily be able to slot one into their boxes and run it without an issue. The one slot cooler and cool running RV360 core conspire to make sure heat won't be an issue in those enclosed spaces either."
No Molex connector (Score:5, Interesting)
Re:No Molex connector (Score:4, Informative)
It's an old part.
Re:No Molex connector (Score:1)
Re:No Molex connector (Score:3, Interesting)
Getting easier to see how they're going to cope with dual core now; at this rate they'll end up running cooler than my old 1.4GHz Thunderbird, even without clock scaling.
Re:No Molex connector (Score:1)
I've had no stability problems at all, even when playing Far Cry.
Re:No Molex connector (Score:1)
Now, since the X800 consumes a bit less than the 9800 I know I can safely upgrade when the time comes. Thanks!
Re:Wow. (Score:2, Interesting)
My 32MB Rage Fury Pro still runs everything I want with ease. No tuner, but I have a cable box anyway.
But when I finally do upgrade AIW is probably the way I'll go.
Hardware encoding (Score:5, Insightful)
Re:Hardware encoding (Score:4, Informative)
Re:Hardware encoding (Score:4, Insightful)
Re:Hardware encoding (Score:5, Informative)
http://www.ati.com/products/ehome/
Not an AIW Tuner+graphics combo, but an individual tuner. It's quite well done. Hardware seems okay and it's cheap.
Re:Hardware encoding (Score:2)
Interesting, but according to the picture on that page, it can't be a blackbird. Blackbird is the codeword that conexant uses for the cx2388x + cx23415 reference design. That means that a blackbird card has those two chips plus the SDRAM chip that is needed for the xc23415. The picture on the ati page only shows two chips that look like a cx23415 with its SDRAM, which likely is much more similar to the Hauppauge PVR250 tha
Re:Hardware encoding (Score:2)
Although, I hear ya... hardware encoding is where it's at, and you'd have to pry my pvr350 from machine while I angrily protest for you to stop... =P
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Re:Hardware encoding (Score:1, Informative)
Re:Hardware encoding (Score:1)
I would prefer a nice high bitrate mjpeg or dv recording, (or huffyuv if I could afford it) then I can do my own mpeg-2 conversion AFTER the video has been processed and is exactly how I want
mpeg-2 is a decent playback format, but sucks to edit (wasn't meant for that).
Re:Hardware encoding (Score:3, Informative)
If you goto ati's site and use thier 'product compare' [ati.com] feature it shows 9600 and higher as doing encoding with hardware. But not all AIW radeon models are available to compare.
Mycroft
Re:Hardware encoding (Score:1)
It also means I can run filters on the pre-encoded signal - otherwise I'd presumably be limited to whatever the PVR hardware is capable of doing before it runs the signal through its comp
Re:Hardware encoding (Score:2)
Linux? (Score:2, Interesting)
It's only slightly off topic to ask, but what's the best video card in this market?
Re:Linux? (Score:5, Informative)
Re:Linux? (Score:3, Informative)
Re:Linux? (Score:1)
I say ATI is the one that
Re:Linux? (Score:5, Informative)
Re:Linux? (Score:1)
My only disappointment is that making DVDs and SVCDs from the streams isn't as straightforward as I thought it would be. I don't want to transcode.
How should I set mythtv to get the right codec/stream params? Is remuxing always necessary? If so, which toolchain is best?
Recentley Purchased this, (Score:5, Funny)
And that's all.
Re:Recentley Purchased this, (Score:4, Funny)
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Re:Liking this for sure.... (Score:5, Funny)
If you think life is cheaper with a girlfriend, that might be why you don't have one.
Gee, that's great... (Score:2, Interesting)
Re:Gee, that's great... (Score:1)
Re:Gee, that's great... (Score:1)
Here's a convienient link [ati.com]
Re:Gee, that's great... (Score:2)
Dual VGA connections... (Score:4, Insightful)
zerg (Score:4, Interesting)
Re:zerg (Score:3, Interesting)
Maybe you could complain to the maker? It might be something they can exchange.
Re:zerg (Score:3, Funny)
You say "for a while", what did you switch to?
Re:zerg (Score:1)
Re:zerg (Score:2)
Watercooling? (Score:1)
Re:zerg (Score:1)
Re:zerg (Score:2)
Re:zerg (Score:2)
You may be totally correct, but I can't help but to think of the joke: What makes more noise than a pig stuck under a fence? Two pigs stuck under a fence.
Using two fans just *might* be noisier than one.
Re:zerg (Score:2)
A simple Do-it-yourself TiVo? (Score:5, Interesting)
This combination is about as good as it gets for people who get their signals by analog cable... but if you have digital cable or DBS, it can't control your tuner box yet. They've got to work on that issue...
Re:A simple Do-it-yourself TiVo? (Score:2, Informative)
Re:A simple Do-it-yourself TiVo? (Score:1)
Re:A simple Do-it-yourself TiVo? (Score:1)
Re:A simple Do-it-yourself TiVo? (Score:3, Informative)
Where's the external control? (Score:1)
Re:Where's the external control? (Score:1)
if the IR blaster was integrated into the card, your computer would have to be in front of the other devices which means the user cannot also control them... just a thought
Linux support? (Score:3, Interesting)
But still, I think what 90% of people out there want in a computer is
a) Email and Web browsing.
b) Office apps.
and c) Digital content creation. i.e. Simple Pictures and Movie editing.
Linux has the frist two, but it's lacking on the third. Yeah, the BTXXX cards work great, but it'd be nice to have a single all in one solution like this (actually, it'd be nice if it was based on a cheaper video chipset, but I digress).
Oh, and Linux needs an easy to use video editor. Cinelerra's the Gimp of video editing. It's the poster child for overkill when all most want is cut and pasting and some simple transitions.
Re:Linux support? (Score:2, Informative)
The last AIW was recognized as just about the worst capture card on the market. All in one solutions are great for folks who don't know any better and think they're getting somethign great.
The PVR250/350, Avermedia M179 and Yuan MPG600 lines of hardware MPEG2 capture cards are by far superior and have excellent Linux support.
Easy video editor? Avidemux2 is pretty darn easy.
It's analog (Score:2, Informative)
This card has no DVI, meaning that you have
to do a totaly useless digital->analog->digital
conversion when hooking up to a flat panel.
Re:It's analog (Score:2)
Re:It's analog (Score:1)
Re:It's analog (Score:2)
Re:It's analog (Score:1)
I thought it was on one of the embedded lists I read, I will check there after some sleep.
Re:It's analog (Score:2)
The AIW-9600 does not however, it has dual vga adapters.
Mycroft
Re:It's analog (Score:2)
Beware (Score:1, Informative)
I get better performance under UT2004 from my R100 ( Radeon 7200 ) with the open-source DRI drivers than I get from my R350 ( Radeon 9600 ) with ATI's drivers.
Honestly, you are better off with a Radeon 7200.
Re:Beware (Score:1)
Re:Beware (Score:2)
Do you know how good their drivers are for video stuff? What's a good capture card for Linux?
Re:Beware (Score:1)
Good card, but it wont work with MythTV (Score:2, Informative)
Re:Good card, but it wont work with MythTV (Score:1, Informative)
Never, EVER Buy One of These Refurbed! (Score:2, Informative)
Re:Never, EVER Buy One of These Refurbed! (Score:1)
Re:Never, EVER Buy One of These Refurbed! (Score:1)
So, is it obsolete yet? (Score:3, Informative)
The current Catalyst version is 4.6 [ati.com] (posted on June 9th, almost a month ago), and i think with the average time between Catalyst releases being around a month (i'm sure someone can correct me if i'm wrong - probably loudly, and with much flaming) that would make the review a month or two old... (and there are newer versions of RemoteWonder (2.3.0.1 [ati.com] posted 3/19/04) and MMC (9.1 [ati.com], posted 06/24/04) as well.)
And yes, i'm well aware i'm being difficult, pedantic and/or contrary.
Better solution for XPC - (Score:3, Informative)
For a Dual Display with Video Capture, get this combo.
For triple display, Dual VGA and TV Set, with FM radio get this combo.
I was hoping to see more discussion on this thread. I have an XPC and am borrowing a PVR-250 and it works really well. Only a 10-20% hit on a 3.0GHz CPU when recording at DVD quality. To stress the system I started 3 FTP downloads (3 MB/s), started burning a CD, streamied a 128k station with Winamp, editing pics with Adobe Photoshop, watched previously recorded show, and recorded TV with the Hauppage card. The system worked fine. I thought for sure that the single IDE disk would bottleneck, but no problems.
IMHO, the ATI AIW 9600XT is out because it doesn't have hardware MPEG compression and it has another fan to make noise. I think the playback with the AIW is easier on the CPU since the overlay happens on the card, however recording must hammer the system CPU . Can anyone tell us what CPU/Disk I/O look like while recording at DVD quality on the ATI?
Actually, ATI does HW encoding (Score:2)
Usually found in high end pro-sumer video cards, the AIW 9600 Pro brings hardware MPEG-2 decoding and MPEG-2 encoding to the consumer level. The Cobra Engine is capable of Inverse Discrete Cosine Transform (iDCT), which is really a fancy way of saying it can decode MPEG-2 streams with minimal CPU usage. This can make a difference when viewing DVDs on your PC, as you no longer have to shop for a dedicated DVD decoder, and no longer have to rel
CPU utilization is covered... (Score:2)
The question is........ (Score:1)
not an ATI card (Score:2, Informative)
TV on the computer (Score:1)