Is The 6-Month Product Cycle Upon Us? 272
Mark Goldstein writes "What is perhaps more interesting than the 4 new Konica Minolta cameras announced today is the rapid product cycle that seems to have been established by both Konica Minolta and other manufacturers." Rather than the yearly model updates that people have come to expect, the article notes that three members of this batch aren't even a year old, and one is only six months.
Six month death spiral (Score:4, Insightful)
All show and no substance...
I mean that's what seems to be happening with these rapid production cycles; they concentrate so much on improving one aspect that the entire product suffers, or at least starts to suffer, from it.
And let's not forget our favorite one, Microsoft; Although I'm sure this is not the main reason M$ sucks... *Insert M$ bashing here* *and here*
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Whats next? (Score:3, Insightful)
So What? (Score:4, Insightful)
The six month turn around just means that when I do need to buy a product it is more likely that it will be a time of year when I will be buying a realitively new product.
I think this is a good thing (unless this turns out to be too little time for testing).
Good for business (Score:4, Insightful)
Of course, this plays havoc with review readers, since by the time a product is reviewed, a new batch of products is out...
Only for some. (Score:5, Insightful)
I just want a phone, I don't want to pay for new features I don't need in a new phone in 6 months after my current phone falls apart because they made a piece of crap.
Upon us? (Score:5, Insightful)
I don't recall ever having yearly product cycles (Score:4, Insightful)
Have we? I'm more surprised that anyone expected model updates once a year. I expect them whenever the manufacturer believes that bringing out a new model is economically viable. I certainly don't see a new model 6 months after the last one as being particularly noteworthy.
Is this just an American thing? I mean, the rest of the world has never had things like cars being different from one year to the next, yet in the US, you seem to have a new version of each car model each year, being arbitrarily different to the last, apparently just for the sake of being different and new for that particular year.
cellphones too? (Score:2, Insightful)
i don't know about you guys, but my old motorola brick was less laggy and had better sound (i know... digital is better) than my brand new siemens.
they are not caring about quality anymore.
It's the market, silly (Score:5, Insightful)
There are still too many camera manufacturers and the costs are still too high. The market will slow down when the cost per camera has come down to around $20 and the functionality is more than the average consumer wants. There will always be a market for premium products but this is not what is driving the current cycle: it's the mass market.
Standard technology curve... aka Heironymous' Law.
Faster != better (Score:5, Insightful)
The manufacturers, will also lose out as they end up haemmoraging their own profits by reducing the return on research investments as well as losing the opportunity to build up a brand like Apple did with their iPod.
Re:Kinda like JBuilder (Score:4, Insightful)
This is an advertisement (Score:3, Insightful)
Welcome to Slashdot, where we debate the commonplace if we can't find a better way to work in an advertisement.
Dogbert (Score:5, Insightful)
Bad for quality, great for the corporate stocks!
Re:I don't recall ever having yearly product cycle (Score:2, Insightful)
Puhleaaase!
How about Japan? How about Europe? How about the freakin' rest of the world!
Faster != Better (Score:3, Insightful)
To engineering it means rushed deveopment schedules, hurried design, tooling, testing, and release to production.
Its a delicate scale. Push it too far towards marketing and you risk significant quality problems. Push it too far toward engineering and you miss your market window.
Down to the power of IT (Score:5, Insightful)
I suppose with PC assistence, designing and building just about anything has become easier. It used to take forever for ideas and techniques to spread. Nowadays if your stuck at anything, you can google for the answer. Applies more to software design, but at least it's easier for designers to find components now. Didn't it take only 6 months for the iPod designers complete the design from the outside in, using off the shelf parts. That would have been a lot harder if they didn't have the net and emails I'd wager.
Re:So What? (Score:2, Insightful)
Re:Upon us? (Score:5, Insightful)
Personally I want my purchases to *last*, I don't care if a "better" product is available the fact remains that when I bought something it did what I expected and required it to do and a year later it should still do it, hopefully for much longer.
I really dislike the way the entire technology arena is going, I am only 19 and already I see far too much "progress" for comfort. I look at my dad who has been able to keep the same job for 19 years and I know that I simply won't be able to do that.
But in all this change, I think we should all remember Ecclesiastes 7:10:
Do not say, "Why were the old days better than these?" For it is not wise to ask such questions.
People longed for the past 5000odd years ago and they still do it today, humans all share an odd similarity.
I sorta strayed a bit there...Aw well.
Re:Microsoft et al. (Score:3, Insightful)
Re:Good for business (Score:5, Insightful)
2 big areas that suffer (Score:4, Insightful)
1) Reliability - products will be more prone to fail. But, I guess this just forces you to go out and get a new one. Kind of like how many cars are now "disposable". You have them for a couple years and dispose of them to get new ones.
2) Quality - They aren't the quality products they used to be. They sure don't build them like they used to.
It's All About Creating Artificial Demand (Score:5, Insightful)
Re:So What? (Score:4, Insightful)
Re:6 month life cycle...good or bad? (Score:4, Insightful)
The major bad thing about this is that the more rapid the product cycle, the crappier the firmware or supporting desktop software is, making us more and more dependent on frequent and numerous software updates to get relatively bug-free operation.
With ultra-fast product cycles, we're looking at software obsolence and product abandonment far faster than we otherwise would have. The device may still work, but have critical bugs/problems/issues that aren't resolved without buying the next item in the product cycle.
It's obviously something less of an issue with devices that have a non-proprietary data interface (eg, memory cards), but something like the iPod really needs its proprietary software to function as designed. But it's still a critical issue regardless if the firmware inside the device doesn't work right.
I love updatable firmware, I hate the fact that it's become an excuse for manufacturers to release broken products and sometimes fix them as they go.
Re:6 month life cycle...good or bad? (Score:4, Insightful)
All this will continue while the market is red hot (which is great for the customer). When it slows down the choice will not be so good but atleast everything will be cheap!
James
Konica Minolta merger (Score:3, Insightful)
Re:Oh no... what will we do? (Score:2, Insightful)
Lets face it (Score:4, Insightful)
the perfect product (Score:3, Insightful)
One way it is bad for the consumer (Score:4, Insightful)
Now, whether this lower quality will even be noticeable, or whether it is a valid tradeoff for increased functionality, is yet to be seen.
Re:Microsoft et al. (Score:3, Insightful)
Re:Upon us? (Score:5, Insightful)
Re:6 month life cycle...good or bad? (Score:4, Insightful)
I know that I will always be one to laugh when I see a 4 year old fridge thrown out and a 40 year old fridge continue to cool like it was brand new. Even if it is only used to cool beer at some summer beachhouse I admire the fact that it was built to last. Imagine how satisfying it would be knowing that the camera you bought today was powered off a plutonium heat cell and would last as well as the Voyager probe [nasa.gov].
Re:Lets face it (Score:3, Insightful)
It's not just about the "continual upgrade cycle", which I have seen people get trapped into (always needing the latest model
I think the pace in this market is also about the component supply side: IC and other manufacturers are also on rapid release cycles, and they're driving the input chains to the equipment manufacturers. The components are not always radical either, e.g. 2mpixel to 3mpixel IC upgrade, which means that incremental revision of products is actually quite easy, it's not like a 12 month development cycle for completely new product, it's largely regression. And if you as Company X offer 3mp at the same pricepoint as Company Y 2mp, then consumers are not going to care too much and they'll move to X.
Don't forget that many consumers don't upgrade every 6 months, they might upgrade every 2 or 3 years - and each time they do, then you as a the manufacturer want to capture them when they are in that window.
Re:6 month life cycle...good or bad? (Score:3, Insightful)
That said, the auto industry isn't above having mid-year updates and mid-year introductions, they just don't do it often.
I don't think the computer necessarily benefitted from model year-itis, because products stick around for a good while after introduction and aren't removed from the market when a faster version is put out. They just don't hold themselves to introducing a new product at a specific time every year.
Re:dammit (Score:3, Insightful)
Re:Six month death spiral (Score:4, Insightful)
Re:It's All About Creating Artificial Demand (Score:4, Insightful)
If a particular manufacturer decides that once every 3 years is enough, it will not sell anything for the 70% of the time, because everyone will buy updated models from the competitors instead.
Re:2 big areas that suffer (Score:4, Insightful)
There were no good old days.
Re:Microsoft et al. (Score:3, Insightful)
- Security updates. Microsoft provides them for free. Don't see how they could sell them.
- Data updates. Like with AVirus software. Updates to virus signatures. MS could sell a subscription to Powerpoint-Clipart Galleries with regular updates or new Fonts... well, that's what I can think right now
- Feature updates. That's what MS is trying to do with every major release. The Same with more features. People don't like the new office releases because of the feature-creep. I don't see how this would improve with small incremental updates.
Also MS tends to break backward compatibility to older Office version. People don't like that either.
I guess it's hard to sell software by subscription. Either you get some kind of data updates.
OTOH maybe they could sell a service, like others do with RPG Games like Everquest and the like. I Guess MS allready tried this kind of business with Passport and other MSN stuff. Didn't work out too good for now.
Greets HerbieStone
Re:Only for some. (Score:2, Insightful)
My point is, planned obsolesence or no, technology does continue to advance, and it makes very little sense to design some products to endure more than a few years in normal use. Those "well-built" analog cell phones from just a few years ago will be nice paperweights in another couple of years when the carriers start phasing out their analog service. [wirelessweek.com]
Re:2 big areas that suffer (Score:2, Insightful)
Re:2 big areas that suffer (Score:2, Insightful)
In UK, there are a lot of classic cars running around but the testing regime and the consumer society means that any car that's older than 9 years is completely worthless. I couldn't sell my Nissan (which was in perfect working order). I got my current car, a Volvo 940 for 450 pounds and probably I could have had it for much less.
Quite a lot of the 70's european automobiles are actually pretty high quality (unless it is British, they were rubbish).
Japan taught UK how to make a car reliable by importing Toyota.
Re:Only for some. (Score:3, Insightful)
Re:6 month life cycle...good or bad? (Score:3, Insightful)
Flash to just 6 months ago when they released the e805. It was and currently still is the only PDA with a 640x480 LCD. Microsoft released Windows Mobile 2003 SE. Toshiba followed up and released it for the e805 (WM 2003 SE adds VGA support to all of it's components)...in Germany. They have, to date, not released this to the US market and have pretty much did what Sony did, pull out of the market. CompUSA doesn't have any e805's and it's been discontinued.
The problem now is that everyoen is trying to be the next cellphone and I am sorry, but it just does not work with anything other then cellphones. You can always get a new phone every 2 years if your willing to sign another two year contract. Tmobile has gotten this down to a year. The cellphone market came out like this because of the way our providers pushed signing new contracts. Essentially, even if you are already a subscriber, you can rework your deal, and get a new phone every 1-2 years....THIS DOES NOT WORK on devices that the purchase price is not subsidised. This is probably why Sony and others pulled out of the market. In ths US, cellphones appear to be free every 2 years, but they really aren't free. How do youi subsidise something with out a recurring monthly bill? You can't.
In most of Asia, small devices are and always have been all the rage. IN Japan, they buy these devices voraciously. In the US, we want something to last so it just does not work to release a new one every 6 months that's only evolutionary. Sure, we'd buy it if it really wow's you, but the WOW moves from one camp to another (like from PocketPC to Palm and back and forth) and then stalls out for about 6 months to a year. American's get PO'd when the device we bout 8 months ago is all of a sudden NOT getting updates to fix problems. SO we bag that vendor and go to another then they do the same thing. The 6 month cycle is nice, but it just does not work in the American market too well.
Re:2 big areas that suffer (Score:4, Insightful)
There are a fair number of old cars running around the US also. I wish there were fewer. Driving behind a thirty year old beetle is a hellish experience filled with noxious fumes and headaches. Cars don't run as long anymore because they are more complicated. The number one reason they are more complicated is beacause of emission controls. These controls are a good thing, because they help make sure that our air is breathable.
Re:6 month life cycle...good or bad? (Score:3, Insightful)
I always think it's a real shame when people keep old refrigerators around. Even putting aside the old death-trap fridges with the locking mechanisms that tend to kill children, the power consumption on old fridges is high enough to make the new models pay for themselves in energy savings.
You People MUST NOT be home owners (Score:2, Insightful)