Syllable Project's Developer Newsletter #1 34
An anonymous reader writes "The July issue of the Syllable Development Newsletter is available, featuring updates and progress from Syllable, the open source desktop OS, over the past month. Highlights include a new 3DFX driver, major ATerm updates and UI principle discussions. Good progress is being made."
3dfx driver?! (Score:2, Funny)
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Re:3dfx driver?! (Score:1, Informative)
Re:3dfx driver?! (Score:4, Insightful)
Re:3dfx driver?! (Score:1)
But seriously, he just seems like an ass. And kudos to the syllable team for trudging on. They have a nice little system coming along.
Re:3dfx driver?! (Score:2)
Probably because they think there are better uses of one's time than writing a driver for a long obsolete piece of hardware.
Re:3dfx driver?! (Score:1, Interesting)
Stuff for upcoming release (Score:4, Informative)
Here's a few screenshots for stuff I'm working on. Updated Windows-like titlebars:
http://msa.section.me.uk/syllable/win98-update.gif [section.me.uk]
Shaped window decorations (should be in 0.5.4, depending on a few technical issues):
http://msa.section.me.uk/syllable/beish-testing.gi f [section.me.uk]
Of course, those are just cosmetic and pale in comparison to the BIG developments in 0.5.4. These include integration of the new Dock panel and file browser:
http://msa.section.me.uk/syllable/desk053.gif [section.me.uk]
along with an updated CD-ROM driver (should work on more machines) and revamped Terminal app. Plus all the usual fixes, improvements and cleanups. I wrote an article on Syllable explaining how well the OS is progressing and what it offers already:
http://www.osnews.com/story.php?news_id=7900 [osnews.com]
BTW, for coders out there, Syllable includes a fully-fledged GNU toolchain along with Emacs, Vim and other goodies. Worth checking out if you fancy coding with a friendly team of developers for an up-and-coming OS.
Re:Stuff for upcoming release (Score:1, Insightful)
Questions (Score:2)
The website says that the OS is "for the home and small office user".
Why would those users use this OS instead of Windows or Linux?
Does it feature hardware (ie. driver) or application compatibility with Windows or Linux?
Re:Questions (Score:1)
I'll be honest with you; our goal is to replace L
Re:Questions (Score:2)
Ok. You guys have mentioned some of the problems with Linux + Gnome/KDE.
But you haven't mentioned one of the biggest problems: support for enough applications and hardware.
How will your OS deal with this? Obviously it is impossible to start from scratch and create your own, so what application platforms will you support? Java, Mono, Wine, Gnome/Mozilla?
Tom.
Re:Questions (Score:1)
Applications are going to be a problem, although I don't know that it's "impossible" to create your own; KDE managed to write and maintain their own web browser and office suite.
Will we support Java and
Re:Questions (Score:1)
Re:Questions (Score:2)
Syllable is open source (Windows is not) and Syllable is a desktop OS (Linux is not). Syllable's APIs look like BeOS's (which most people hold in high regard), and in addition it offers a degree of compatibility with POSIX. That's attractive for developers - and with developers come apps, and apps are good for users.
``Does it feature hardware (ie. driver) or application compatibility with Windows or Linux?''
AFAIK, no. And the drivers Sylla
Re:Questions (Score:1)
The ATAPI driver was crap, but the latest version will hopefully fix all of the problems we've had with it so far.
If your display was not working I'd suggest that Syllable was not in fact trying to use VESA at all, and either your card was unsupported or the driver did indeed have a bug which caused you pr
Re:Questions (Score:2)
The video problem I had was, at the time, a known issue. I believe it's fixed now, but have been unable to test it due to problems with the IDE driver.
I tried LiveCD3 today (under QEMU, as I don't have a working x86 PC at hand), but it fails to mount the root filesystem and eventually bombs, being unable to spawn a boot-shell. I tried following some instructions from the FAQ, but to no avail. I think there is a problem in the interaction between QEMU and Syllable.
I seem to have hurt
Re:Questions (Score:1)
As for IDE and VESA..well you're half right. VESA is a simple standard and it really does work perfectly in Syllable. As I said, I suspect you had a video card which Syllable was trying to use one its video drivers for. It probably never had a chance to try to use VESA. So the problems you had are really not
Re:Questions (Score:2)