Mozilla Releases Mozilla Sunbird 0.2 393
Gentu writes "Along with the new Mozilla-Japan initiative and the release of Mozilla 1.8a3 today, the Mozilla team released the first 'official' beta release of Mozilla Sunbird, version 0.2, a stand-alone calendaring application (similar to Apple's iCal). There are two flavors of this project, one that works as a ~700 KB plugin to Firefox/Thunderbird/Mozilla (titled Mozilla Calendar) and the ~8 MB stand-alone calendaring application, Mozilla Sunbird (rate the apps over at GnomeFiles.org). These builds are the first to feature a new default theme, a new logo and the customizable toolbar functionality. Note that Sunbird is still an experimental technology preview that contain bugs, but it is pretty stable."
Some of the new Mozilla 1.8a3 features (Score:5, Informative)
no Palm support (Score:5, Informative)
Can't sync my PDA with Mozilla software (Score:2, Informative)
Re:Holy shit (Score:0, Informative)
Anyways, it's 8 meg. What's the problem with that? It's freakin tiny!
As usual... (Score:5, Informative)
Re:Sunbird? Firefox? Firebird? (Score:1, Informative)
I used to use Opera religiously but i switched once i found out about firefox. I went back to Opera just to see what they added to the new version, and holy shit, is it ever bloated with gadgets, buttons, toolbars, and the kitchen sink. I really don't like looking at a gazillion items on a browser. yes it can all be turned off, but that's just one less point for opera in regards to simplicity (in my book anyway).
That's why i like the 'modular' designs a lot more (e.g. extensions in Firefox), you can decide how complicated you want your application to be.
Now if opera would come with an automatic blow-job attachment.....hmm....that gives me an idea...anyone know opera's development hot line?
And file compatible with Apples iCal too .. (Score:5, Informative)
From their web site:
This is great news, and should help to promote both applications.
Re:Some of the new Mozilla 1.8a3 features (Score:3, Informative)
Maybe it'd be helpful for this to be an extension until they add it to Firefox and for Mozilla 1.7 users. The only thing you can do with M1.7 and FF0.9.3 is add a patch to it, but most people don't want to download and install Cygwin, then wait 1-3 hours for it to fully recompile. =S
Re:Some of the new Mozilla 1.8a3 features (Score:1, Informative)
Re:Strange math.... (Score:3, Informative)
Firefox Installer (4.8M) + Plugin (700k) = Sunbird installer (5.9M) - Nightly/debug extras (400k)
Re:no Palm support (Score:5, Informative)
http://www.webdav.org/ [webdav.org]
It's got my vote (Score:4, Informative)
While there's nothing spectacular about the calendar tool it does do the job and so far it has been running without issue the last 5 days without requiring a restart.
I'm further delighted about this because it means I don't have to walk down the path of Evolution just to get a calendar. One last thing though - when (if ever) will Mozilla mail change away from using
PLD.
Re:NAME CHANGE (Score:3, Informative)
Glib answer: When someone releases Sunsomething [mozilla.org] as a plugin
Re:no Palm support (Score:5, Informative)
I think it works out of the box on Fedora as well.
Pretty much any modern web server can do webdav, or has a module that can do it.
Re:Not released (Score:3, Informative)
> Mozilla makes great software, but never finishes it - that's for the distro packagers to do.
And you didn't really finish your comment. What specific qualms do you have? Please clarify. And even better, please make sure a bug is filed at bugzilla.mozilla.org
> If Dag and the Debian guy (and whoever else for whatever other distro) could hook up with the Moz people, you'd have a much better experience.
Red Hat, IBM, Sun, and a few other distributors have people in touch with the Moz guys. In fact, all of those companies employ people to specifically work on Mozilla.
Sunbird has no support for proxies - no worries! (Score:5, Informative)
Use the thunderbird/firefox calendar plugin instead
OR
Copy the network.proxy parts of your thunderbird/firefox prefs.js file into your sunbird prefs.js file.
Re:It's got my vote (Score:4, Informative)
One last thing though - when (if ever) will Mozilla mail change away from using .mbx/mailbox files and move to something like what Sylpheed uses (1 file per email).
One possible reason for the .mbx is that NTFS is so freakin slow at operations involving many small files. ReiserFS rocks at it (as well as a couple other non-FAT/NTFS systems), but all the Windows people (>80% base) would be left wondering where all their speed went.
Now if MS would create a GOOD filesystem (see ReiserFS 4 - maybe they could just grab that!), it would be more feasable for those people with 3,000 e-mails that they don't want to bulk delete.
(btw - I work a helpdesk, I know about those people.)
Re:Possibly a very important project for Open Sour (Score:2, Informative)
But wait! what's that over there, in the forested depths of germany?! It's KDE 3.3 Kolab! Marvel! (and slap forehead in horror at stupid "K" theme name).
http://kolab.org/images/shot-kde-client-calendar1
Re:Sunbird? Firefox? Firebird? (Score:2, Informative)
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Re:Possibly a very important project for Open Sour (Score:5, Informative)
Ximian Evolution is the Managerial, Outlook-esque product for Linux that you seem to be missing.
Re:Some of the new Mozilla 1.8a3 features (Score:5, Informative)
Read the damn bug [mozilla.org] yourself. (Note: copy and paste the link, Bugzilla rejects visits from Slashdot.) It is not designed to encourage bad writing: support for document.all will ONLY activate if the web developer really was stupid and did not use any sort of test to detect it.
Additional discussion can be seen from the Mozillazine article [mozillazine.org] published weeks ago.
Re:Strange math.... (Score:5, Informative)
Re:good news (Score:4, Informative)
Apple's using KHTML, pal. Nothing to do with Moz.
Linux+Moz, maybe.
-Erwos
Etymology of Mozilla (Score:5, Informative)
Intarweb folk history has it that the word Mozilla is a contraction of Mosaic [wikipedia.org]-Killer (with a nod to Godzilla, of course).
Re:Firebird .. Thunderbird .. Sunbird (Score:3, Informative)
Firebird is from the 60s, came out when the Camaro did, as a competitor the the original Mustang, so porbably 63-65 range.
Sunbird came out originally as the J2000 in the mid-80's, I forget when the rename was.
I think it more shows that there are no good names left. Either you reuse something for the billionth time, or you make up stupid shit like Achieva.
Minimize to tray (Score:1, Informative)
Suntray
http://users.dart.net.au/~srgeorg/ [dart.net.au]
Linux Install Scripts (Score:1, Informative)
http://www.mandrakeclub.com/modules.php?op=modloa
Re:no Palm support (Score:5, Informative)
Sync support is planned eventually [mozilla.org], but some of us [multisync.org] are starting to look at it now.
Re:no Palm support (Score:3, Informative)
In fact, I'm surprised Slashdot hasn't made a separate story out of this fact yet ^_~
Re:Open Contacts format (Score:5, Informative)
Re:Some of the new Mozilla 1.8a3 features (Score:1, Informative)
When? Looks like about July 2002. [mozillazine.org]
Re:Open Contacts format (Score:5, Informative)
Re:Some of the new Mozilla 1.8a3 features (Score:1, Informative)
Re:Possibly a very important project for Open Sour (Score:3, Informative)
I find the calendar klunky.
Re:Strange math.... (Score:3, Informative)
Suntray (Score:2, Informative)
http://users.dart.net.au/~srgeorg/
Setting Sunbird Date Format (Score:3, Informative)
gecko (Score:3, Informative)
Why, for instance, do Firefox and Thunderbird each need their own Gecko? (Or don't they?)
Why is Sunbird a 700k plugin or an 8 meg (!) download?
Couldn't they install system-wide libraries? Wouldn't that make everything smaller, neater, even faster (less to cache when running firefox/thunderbird simultaniously)?
Re:Not released (Score:3, Informative)
Re:Still lacks most important feature: useful alar (Score:5, Informative)
Minimize To Tray Extension [mozillazine.org]
The extension works pretty well for Firefox and Thunderbird, and if/when Sunbird allows extensions, it will be extended to work with that too. This of course means Sunbird/Calendar would always be running, able to send out alarms, but not taking up lots of room on the taskbar. At the moment, the minimize to tray extension is only for Windows, and it's not a perfect fix, but it may help out some people who just want any solution for this issue.
Re:Still lacks most important feature: useful alar (Score:3, Informative)
Re:what about HTML editor? (Score:3, Informative)
Re:gecko (Score:3, Informative)
Re:Enquireing minds....... (Score:3, Informative)
I don't know about CTRL-7 though.
Re:So is it bad when install fails and then pegs c (Score:3, Informative)
The demo of this program was able to "undelete" them from my ntfs partition.
http://www.bitmart.net/r2k.shtml [bitmart.net]
Re:It's got my vote (Score:1, Informative)
When you do incremental backups, the maildir format is much better, since 1 new email in a mbox type mailbox would result in the entire mailbox having to be backed up in stead of just the new mail.
Looks nice - but no syncing with Nokia 6820 (Score:1, Informative)
Until there is a (good, solid) way to do that with Sunbird I will not switch. I imagine lots of people with mobile phones, PDAs etc. are in the same position. I am not sure if the solution for this problem should come from the hardware manufacturers or from the OSS community.
Still, nice work!
Better than it looks (Score:2, Informative)