Mozilla Releases Mozilla Sunbird 0.2 393
Gentu writes "Along with the new Mozilla-Japan initiative and the release of Mozilla 1.8a3 today, the Mozilla team released the first 'official' beta release of Mozilla Sunbird, version 0.2, a stand-alone calendaring application (similar to Apple's iCal). There are two flavors of this project, one that works as a ~700 KB plugin to Firefox/Thunderbird/Mozilla (titled Mozilla Calendar) and the ~8 MB stand-alone calendaring application, Mozilla Sunbird (rate the apps over at GnomeFiles.org). These builds are the first to feature a new default theme, a new logo and the customizable toolbar functionality. Note that Sunbird is still an experimental technology preview that contain bugs, but it is pretty stable."
Sunbird? Firefox? Firebird? (Score:3, Insightful)
Calendar application that can reuse my Palm data? (Score:2, Insightful)
Ridiculous names (Score:3, Insightful)
The names need to be somewhat related, descriptive, or have an explanation.
This isn't a car. It's a calendar application.
Re:Strange math.... (Score:2, Insightful)
You can bet it'll be in a 5MB range when we'll see Sunbird 0.9
Re:Ridiculous names (Score:5, Insightful)
Re:And file compatible with Apples iCal too .. (Score:2, Insightful)
Re:I've said it before, and I'll say it again... (Score:3, Insightful)
Possibly a very important project for Open Source (Score:5, Insightful)
One CEO even mentioned this to me. He loves Linux from what he has been shown/played with but finds it hard to lose the integrated calendar feature of Outlook. For him, that's what is holding back the adoption of Linux. Believe it or not, he hates the quality of Outlook. The only reason he is tied to it is because it is the only viable solution with the proper features.
The more we look at what our targeted users are using, the better off we will be. This is what Microsoft often does well. They look at who makes the decision to deploy their product, like any good company does, and tailor their product around that user.
I simply cannot believe that we, as an open source community, have not yet duplicated the todo/email/calendar application that managers so love (with good reason too, their jobs often involve quite a few meetings/action items/communications).
Hopefully this will fill the void of an integrated calendar/scheduling application (though there could be something already out there... I just don't know about it
I've been waiting for this to arrive for a while (Score:3, Insightful)
Aethera and Outlook also forced me to do this. But now, perhaps I can have the calendar app open without having it reminding me every 15 minutes that I wasn't connected to the internet.
Once again, I thank the mozilla group.
Cheers,
Adolfo
PS. Now, If I could just convince the Opera team to unbundle their chat and mail apps from their browser...
Re:Angry people (Score:1, Insightful)
Re:It's got my vote (Score:2, Insightful)
Hopefully, never.
Re:Some of the new Mozilla 1.8a3 features (Score:5, Insightful)
Maybe since years of a hardline position on the point have resulted in a 2% marketshare?
Maybe they finally realized that in the big picture, the minor naming issue of "all[]" versus "getElementById()" wasn't worth getting their panties in a wad over -- especially relative to the bigger issue of XHTML/CSS versus Vendor HTML?
Either way, I welcome the new Realism over at mozilla.org.
not to mention encourages writing MORE bad DHTML
Almost everyone who actually writes Javascript understands that document.all is legacy. However, a huge portion of DHTML is just copy-n-pasted over-n-over again by Dreamweaver jockeys -- who barely understand programming much less standards nuances. Mozilla was trying to educate a group that is impossible to educate.
Re:Strange math.... (Score:4, Insightful)
Probably for the same reason that the Firefox installer for windows used to clock in at about 17MB until just a few months ago...It hasn't been trimmed down and cleaned up yet. Considering this thing has just been announced you can't expect them to be working on final steps yet...
Another feature that it really needs is... (Score:2, Insightful)
Agenda-At-Once is the only calendar program that I've seen so far with this. Undoubtedly there are others, but I think at this stage they should ALL have that feature.
Re:Some of the new Mozilla 1.8a3 features (Score:4, Insightful)
IMHO, it still encourages bad writing, it doesn't matter if it detectable or not, if stupid webmonkey foo knows broken feature bar is now working in another browser, then s/he's more likely to use it without testing.
Assuming stupid webmonkeys know Mozilla featureset is probably vastly overestimating the intelligence of quite a few in that lot, but
Nor does it probably actually help with anything, if someone is stupid enough to blindly use that, there are probably other equally stupid, non-supported things on that site as well.
Still lacks most important feature: useful alarms! (Score:4, Insightful)
See requirements here [mozilla.org]
and the tracker bug here [mozilla.org]. At the tracker bug, you can add your email to the CC, and put in a comment to let the developer's know that it is important to you!
In order for this
ISO Date Standard (Score:3, Insightful)
Great program, but why no freaking ISO date standard (2004-08-31) ? What is this American/British crap where you can't tell if it's DD/MM/YYYY or MM/DD/YYYY? grr...
The sun also rises (Score:3, Insightful)
Spreadsheets have cells. ExCEL.
And a calendar has a cell for each time the sun rises. SUNbird.
Re:Still lacks most important feature: useful alar (Score:2, Insightful)
But it's similar to those programs that check gmail for you. A small little system tray app that periodically checks gmail and notifies you of new emails. Simple. I'm sure it wouldn't be too complex to have Sunbird (I'm lovin that btw) communicate with a ~700kb program or something. Of course, IANAP.
Re:Some of the new Mozilla 1.8a3 features (Score:5, Insightful)
Re:Possibly a very important project for Open Sour (Score:1, Insightful)
http://wwws.sun.com/software/product_categories/e
They also have plugins for outlook and evolution to give full functionality. The web stuff works quite well anyway, and a new integrated version of the webside for mail and calendar will be coming soon.