KDE 3.3 Officially Released 492
scorp1us was one of several to note that KDE 3.3 has been released. You can also read the infopage and the requirements. Commence downloading. Features a new spell checking library, a new theme manager, and much more.
Re:Yaay KDE! (Score:5, Informative)
*cough* [kde.org]
Re:Yaay KDE! (Score:3, Informative)
And there is a script to download and build all of kde for you, from cvs daily if you like. I'm too lazy to find it but it's on kde.org.
Screenshots (Score:5, Informative)
Of course gentoo (Score:3, Informative)
My own personal experience with it is that it's even faster then before (Not quite blackbox speed but it is approching...). kmail has spam filtering built in. All of the multimedia mime things work in Konqueror (that I could see). Still can't get konqueror to run those java games at www.pogo.com so I have to use firefox for that.
Kdevelop is fantastic, along with plugins for valgrind, doxygen and debuggers it is a great development environment.
All in all an incremental change, nothing blindingly new, but a solid base to work from.
Re:Yaay KDE! (Score:5, Informative)
Yep. But now you can enable/disable through a button in the windowtitle (if you want to)
Re:Yaay KDE! (Score:3, Informative)
Re:Yaay KDE! (Score:1, Informative)
yay, but... (Score:1, Informative)
Re:Yaay KDE! Yay Debian! (Score:5, Informative)
Re:Yaay KDE! (Score:5, Informative)
Re:Son of a bitch! (Score:4, Informative)
Set PORTAGE_NICENESS="15" in
# ACCEPT_KEYWORDS="~x86" emerge kde
go about your normal business, it takes about ten hours to compile on my 1.4GHz Athlon. You can stiill use your system while it compiles, you know.
You'll still have KDE-3.3 months before most people can get it in thoer shrinkwrapped distros.
Re:Yaay KDE! (Score:5, Informative)
Been awhile since you've played with Linux in GUI-land? Just get a distro with good package management...
Gentoo: emerge kde
Debian: apt-get
I just sit back and let it go...
Re:KDE vs. GNOME (Score:2, Informative)
Alas this is very FALSE. You can develop QT based apps and charge for them, as much as you what to charge, as long as you use the GPL as your license. As long as you make the source available per stated in the GPL License, etheir as a free download, or available on a CD for no more than the cost of media + shipping.
Re:Son of a bitch! (Score:2, Informative)
New Features (site is slashdotted) (Score:5, Informative)
Highlights At A Glance
Some of the highlights in KDE 3.3 are listed below.
For a more detailed list of improvements since the KDE 3.2 release, please refer to the KDE 3.3 Feature Plan [kde.org].
mirrors (Score:4, Informative)
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Re:Mod this up (Score:2, Informative)
We should thank Microsoft for bringing 96% of the market to us.
Re:does it work with (Score:2, Informative)
Can't see any reason it couldnt be ported to run natively under any Win32 based X server.
Re:Son of a bitch! (Score:3, Informative)
Do NOT use this. Instead, use
echo kde-base/kde >>
This topic has come up on Gentoo forums so many times that I'm not going to repeat it here, but using ACCEPT_KEYWORDS or emerging an ebuild directly is BAD. Read man portage and see what the files in
Re:Son of a bitch! (Score:4, Informative)
Crap, should have used preview. Of course, I mean
echo kde-base/kde ~arch >>
Posting as anon so not to karma whore.
Re:Debian (Score:4, Informative)
Re:Yaay KDE! (Score:2, Informative)
Re:Screenshots (Score:1, Informative)
Re:Yaay KDE! (Score:2, Informative)
Oh... you're not per chance one of those people who likes to waste their time compiling things unnecessarily are you?
Heh. You sound like me. At least, like me before I got around to giving Gentoo a try (I'm a Debian user). It doesn't make any sense to me, but my Gentoo machine is significantly faster than when the same hardware ran Debian. I can't imagine a few platform-specific optimization switches mattering so much, but the difference is very noticeable. I notice that the binaries are a bit smaller, too, which I think may be a larger part of the difference.
Whatever it is, I'm pretty impressed. Not enough to bother building everything for the systems I actually use on a daily basis, but I am impressed.
Re:Port isnt availble yet (Score:3, Informative)
In the meantime, the FreeBSD/KDE team is busily testing KDE 3.3 packages. They've been testing for almost a week now, and it looks like they're near done. They reason it seems like they're taking so long is because they are. Just like any Linux distro does (or should). There's also the snag of -CURRENT rolling out yet another backwardly incompatible GNU compiler.
Re:nVidia TwinView Working? (Score:1, Informative)
Re:Spell Check? (Score:3, Informative)
Ha ha! Good one. English is spoken over a huge area and regional pronunciation differences would make phonetic script written by someone from Aberdeen totally incomprehensible to someone who lives in Texas. (This topic is covered in every Linguistics 101 course. Linguistics is fascinating, so pick up a textbook if you want to learn more.) George Bernard Shaw and the editors of the Chicago Tribune from ~1900-1940 tried to reform English spelling by writing more phonetically; they all failed miserably.
Also, there are many different and mutually incomprehensible languages spoken in China, yet they all use the same writing system. This means that if a person from Guangzhou (in the south) wants to talk with a person from Changchun (in the north), they'll use the words they have in common but draw characters in the air or on paper to get around the words and grammatical constructs they don't have in common. Seems to work OK for them. English isn't quite like that yet, but I can tell you it's a lot easier for a Midwest-accented American to communicate with a Mumbai (Bombay) English speaker with text than it is with voice.
And are you going to add a new letter to the English alphabet for the schwa? That'll break every existing installed system and every English-writing person's brains... not a really smart thing to do.
Re:This might be nice... (Score:1, Informative)
I have a solid faith in the BSD ports system. I use FreeBSD at work and I know the system works. If something should go seriously wrong, it's usually quite fixable. With RPM... well if it didn't work the first time, it worked the second. Gentoo portage is based off of BSD ports, so I thought I'd give it a try. Been pretty happy ever since.
Gentoo is a major pain to set up, but it's worth the hassle since you never do a "major" upgrade again. Just incramental ones. You don't have to be all that technical to figure it out (from a linux user standpoint). The handbook holds your hand walking you through the installation. The only other thing you have to do is:
emerge --update system
emerge --update world
every now and then. If you have more than one box, you can compile stuff on one, then move the binary packages over to the other one and portage will install them for you with no compile. (possibly losing make flag optimization gains though)
Re:languages (Score:2, Informative)
http://crulp.nu.edu.pk/
Re:Yaay KDE! (Score:5, Informative)
See, the thing is, Debian tries to be this safe-as-milk Linux distribution. Packages are compiled (in most cases) in the most generic way possible. There are exceptions, such as kernel images, but other than that, on x86, it's i386 all the way. That cuts down on performance a little.
Having said that, now that I've bothered to configure my Debian system, I don't notice much of a difference at all in performance.
What did I do? I took a bit of what I had learned in the Gentoo world and applied it to Debian. I'm not running syslog/klog anymore; instead, I'm running metalog in async mode. I have all my partitions mounted with the noatime option, and the reiserfs partitions are mounted with notail. I made the root partition ext3; I formatted the partition to have sparse superblocks and to use btree hash directory structures. I've added local changes to tweak harddrive performance. Finally, I audited what services needed to be running and got rid of anything that wasn't necessary. I'm not done yet, either. Doing things like switching to faster, lighter getty alternatives help, and there are other speed improvements that can be made.
Much is made of custom CFLAGS in the land of Gentoo, but the real power (if you start at stage1) is being able to build a smarter, lighter Linux system from the beginning.
These are all things that some Linux-on-the-desktop distribution could do automagically, naturally, if you're thinking "yeah, buddy, sounds *reeeeal* easy har har har." Well, it wasn't that bad, and I relieved myself of the headache of devoting my main box to building KDE packages. Some joker with a blazing-fast P4 and several megatons of RAM can do that for me.
Re:YES! (Score:3, Informative)
Besides, my athlon-XP kicks out QT and KDE overnight.
Konsole: Addition of Split View options(274 votes) (Score:1, Informative)
The most wanted features [kde.org]
My most wanted feature
Re:Yaay KDE! (Score:3, Informative)
Also, while there are some very cryptic names, JuK and KWin are not. Ever heard of a jukbox? And KWin is fairly obviously the K Window manager?
Re:not true... (Score:2, Informative)
Re:Every time... (Score:1, Informative)
It's not supposed to be some stupid 'K' naming convention. That's how you spell those apps in German.