Redmondmag on Dumping IE

nSignIfikaNt writes "Here is yet another article discussing options to using IE. This one is from redmondmag.com who claims to be the independent voice of the microsoft IT community."

Who cut the cheese?

[grunt107]

Internet Explorer is the Swiss Cheese of software--it's full of holes.

I'd think it was more like the Limburger of software - it stinks.

Re:should read "Alternatives to..."

[Anonymous Coward]

i dont kno what all you shafts probelm is but ie works just fine for me. shit it just crashed and i had to retype it but then i got a million popups and accidently closed slahsdot and now im just typing this to say THERES NOTHING WRONG WITH IE. oh crap jpeg virus duck!

Oh yeah?

[FirstTimeCaller]

But corporate users don't spend a lot of time playing with DirectX-based games, listening to Windows Media Player, or checking e-mail with Outlook Express.

I don't think they know the same corporate people that I know.

Re:Is IE even "free" anymore?

[savagedome]

Yes. Only in the sense of 'buying an airplane to get free peanuts'

Obligatory Mastercard Commercial

[papasui]

Laptop: $1500
Wireless Access Point: $80
Broadband Internet: $40
VOIP Service: $20

Calling your tinfoil wearing, goverment conspiracy theory lovin' friend with a computer generated voice to play a game of strategic conquest: Priceless.

Re:An idea to beat Microsoft

[cowens]

ummm.. yeah.. nevermind that OPERA HAD IT FIRST

Since when did prior art matter in the granting of a patent?

Cynical Jokester

[Anonymous Coward]

Ahhh, they probably only put it in there so they would get slashdotted and be able to raise their advertising rates. "Why of course you get your money's worth with our banner ads. Our hit rate is through the roof!"

Re:Quasi-OT: Opera's voice mode

[Anonymous Coward]

And I'm talking to it, why? :)

Because it's lonely. :(

Re:Used to be MCP Magzine

[netsharc]

I think the name fits better for a magazine about the city Redmond, or has the city Redmond already found its place in the ranks of Washington, Hiroshima, or Chernobyl? Cities that when you mention their name, there's always something associated with it..

Redmond is perhaps like Chernobyl... contaminated with toxic waste from a famous institution in it. :P

Re:Used to be MCP Magzine

[caluml]

I read that as: I got a free MCSE when I got my subscription,

Re:should read "Alternatives to..."

[benjj]

Yeah. Thank god Gmail is written in flash and not javascript....

Re:should read "Alternatives to..."

[Anonymous Coward]

Being more serious. How to migrate a clueless n00b from IE to with minimal future support:

1. Download/Install Firefox itself
2. Download/Install Sun Java Runtime, do necessary fiddling to get Firefox to use it
3. Download/Install Flash plugin
4. Download/Install Shockwave plugin
5. Download/Install all necessary streaming media plugins
6. Download/Install Googlebar plugin. This is optional but probably a Good Thing. Configure until said clueless n00b offers free coffee.
7. Add 'obvious' trusted sites like mozilla.org to trusted sites list (I can't believe mozilla forgot this!) Be very careful here.
8. Turn on all automatic updates (remember, we are talking about clueless n00bs here)
9. Make sure all bookmarks, cookies etc have been correctly migrated by checking with, yes, you guessed it, the clueless n00b... (I've never had a problem).
10. Delete all unnecessary IE icons (or if they are really clueless then just redirect them to Firefox)
11. While you're at it remove PDF from MIME associations, Acrobat takes zonks to load up, make sure it doesn't load in a tab but downloads as necessary. [While you're at it why not clean Acrobar of the unused plugins? It'll make it load an order of magnitude faster]
12. Set default download directory to something more sensible than the desktop (optional). Go through the options (possibly consulting your n00b), configure.
13. Teach n00b how to use tabbed browsing, integrated searching, pressing '/' to find something etc etc. Teach common keyboard shortcuts. RSS bookmarks if not THAT much of a n00b. Watch n00b face light up with unrestrained glee! Relish free food, foot massage etc by n00b.
14. Explain your undying hero worship for Charles Babbage, why Darl McBride is Satan, the contents of Bruce Schneier's latest cryptogram, and why Eberlin's Slashbot rhyme r0xxors. Attempt explanation of the concept of bash.org. Get kicked out by increasingly freaked out n00b, safe in the knowledge that you are battling Evil.

WARNING: above not to be used in ALL situations, only for the 'I want my IntarWeb' types.

I'll leave links/more detailed steps/other suggestions/corrections/'u 5uxx0rs' to people who need the karma. If you're going to Spread Firefox then do it right!

Re:should read "Alternatives to..."

[Anonymous Coward]

Surely it's easier just to tell them to RTFM ;-)

Re:Used to be MCP Magzine

[gilroy]

Blockquoth the poster:

Redmond used to be called MCP Magazine, as in Microsoft Certified Professionals.

Gee, I always thought it stood for Master Control Program -- you know, the operating system from Tron that is hellbent on world domination and is in fact the Ultimate Evil... oh, wait. Same thing. :)

Re:should read "Alternatives to..."

[Anonymous Coward]

I didn't get what the Slashbot rhyme thing was about, so I'm reposting it here. Original thread http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=118242&cid=999 4109. Sorry Eberlin for copyright infringement!

Slashbot Rhyme

I make a dash to the Slash to the D-O-T
Coz them news for nerds makes sense to me
So let this serve as a warning to the spammers and trolls
You may have a fat pipe but you ain't got bawls.

There's a new manifesto by ESR
And the stats of the watts of a hybrid car
I gots love for Perens and miguel, et al
And I voted CowboyNeal on the Slashdot Poll

I'm Microsoft bashin' like every single day
Coz the OS got holes and Exploder's teh gay
Now SCO's talkin' trash so I give firefox a ride
To reply as a Coward so I can hate on McBride

I will flame you with language I won't say to your face
And I bet you can't guess who gots all your base
There's one way to know if your server is rotting
Just post a link and you'll get a slashdotting

You can mod me down coz I'm a karma whore
And I'm a decorated veteran of a recent flame war
Where they fought about an app with a K or a G
And a heated debate on what was meant by "Free"

As a slashbot, when Linux receives a threat,
My palms begin to sweat and my evil bit is set
You best believe I'll be posting a rant
And I'll be surfin' Slashdot 'til my mom says I can't.

Re:should read "Alternatives to..."

[Anonymous Coward]

And I'm dead serious all the time.

I recommend lightening up.

You forgot something

[twitter]

Laptop: $1500 Wireless Access Point: $80 Broadband Internet: $40 VOIP Service: $20

Using a phone booth, $0.35. When your brain works, things are easy. For everything else, there's a credit card waiting to suck the rest of your life.

XP users, they are so clever.