Firefox Shooting For 10 Percent 564
Random BedHead Ed writes "An
article on ZDNet Monday features an interview with Bart Decrem, the Mozilla organization spokesman, who says that by the end of next year they expect to have 10% of the browser share. "We have the momentum," he says. He attributes some of the success to faster browsing and a lack of software bloat, and suggests that other open source projects might see similar success if they trim features. The article also quotes some very interesting figures from ZDNet's own web servers. About 9% of ZDnet visitors were using a Mozilla browser in February; now in it's at 19%." The average for OSTG overall is about 30%.
Interesting? Probably not. (Score:2, Informative)
June '04:
MSIE 6.0 - 6444 (56%)
Moz 5.0 - 2330 (20%)
July '04:
MSIE 6.0 - 8673 (48%)
Moz 5.0 - 5144 (28%)
August '04:
MSIE 6.0 - 8954 (42%)
Moz 5.0 - 7331 (34%)
September '04:
MSIE 6.0 - 15515 (41%)
Moz 5.0 - 12550 (33%)
October '04 (through yesterday):
MSIE 6.0 - 16209 (39%)
Moz 5.0 - 14540 (35%)
Yup, my numbers are just as meaningless and skewed as any other site except perhaps google. But I still find it interesting that SO many people use MSIE over Mozilla-based browsers even when they are mostly coming from Slashdot.
Spread Firefox (Score:1, Informative)
Get Firefox! [spreadfirefox.com]
Site Stats (Score:5, Informative)
I can't comment for other sites, but for our city's website, http://www.laytoncity.org/ [laytoncity.org], here's our breakdown as of 9:14am today:
Someone's trying to get affiliate points!!!! (Score:2, Informative)
Re:Mozilla tool to make it truly the default brows (Score:5, Informative)
Thats when you complain to NetZero so they know its not appreciated.
Sysadmins out there - please note that... (Score:5, Informative)
Re:Show us your stats! (Score:5, Informative)
Microsoft's Worst Nightmare (Score:5, Informative)
Business 2.0 has an interesting article [business2.com] titled "Microsoft's Worst Nightmare" with some additional background on the rise of Firefox.
Reading the text you can almost imagine Redmond concocting a cunning plan to distract 19-year-old Blake from his Firefox duties, involving free tickets to a tropical island with Natalie Portman. And daily hot grits via room service.
Slashdot question (Score:1, Informative)
Re:Mozilla tool to make it truly the default brows (Score:1, Informative)
Re:Mozilla tool to make it truly the default brows (Score:3, Informative)
I've just dealt with something similar. The first step is to go through (manually and painfully) Win32 file associations and make sure nothing points to Internet Explorer. That, and having FF set as the default browser, should significantly reduce the need for IE.
The next step, and one that I have yet to try, is to find a test system and symlink the IE binary to FF. It's a disaster waiting to happen, I know, but I think the experiment itself is worth the effort, let alone any possible success. In case you're wondering how to link in Win32, take a gander here [shell-shocked.org].
Rendering issues (Score:2, Informative)
Re:Show us your stats! (Score:5, Informative)
The worst offenders are usually locked away behind user accounts (like bank systems) or hidden deep within a web site that otherwise works.
Re:Rendering issues (Score:5, Informative)
Re:No surprise (Score:5, Informative)
Re:FireFox question (Score:1, Informative)
Well, then you're being stupid.
Just hit CTRL - or CTRL + to fix the display; no reloading necessary.
Re:FireFox question (Score:1, Informative)
I also quite awhile back switched to slashdot "lite" in the preferences, it's pretty spiffy, minimalist but gets the job done, lacks nothing really. You don't get as many icons and pictures and blinkenlight stuff, but all the content is there, so I stayed switched over. Loads faster, renders faster.
Re:FireFox question (Score:5, Informative)
Whenever slashdot supports web standards, obviously. This site is terrible when it comes to using standards compliant code. In other news, IE is generally better at rendering sites with malformed code than FireFox. (IE is still behind FF in standards compliance of course.)
Why IE Market Share Matters (Score:5, Informative)
The magic word here is `control'. As long as virtually everybody is using IE, Microsoft has great control over what websites can do and how they do it. For example, websites do use ActiveX controls, but they don't use XUL.
When Microsoft integrates XAML support into IE, web developers will be doing the things they can now do with XUL, but using XAML instead. F/OSS browsers will be locked out, because they don't support the new features the Microsoft way, even though XUL was there first.
Users will be bound to IE, and consequently Windows - the only platform IE runs on (the Mac port was discontinued, IIRC). This is why IE market share affects MS's bottom line. Without near-universal deployment of IE, they wouldn't be able to control the market like this.
It saddens me that the F/OSS communities don't work harder on enhancing interactivity on the web. I think this will be the killer feature of XAML - and I don't see why we need to sit and wait until Microsoft introduces it. We can beat them to it!
Re:Mozilla tool to make it truly the default brows (Score:1, Informative)
Re:My Website's Stats (Score:5, Informative)
Well, first of all Microsoft doesn't make a browser. They make an OS named "Windows" one of its features is an icon called "Internet Explorer." That feature isn't free, you have to fork over cold, hard cash for a Windows license.
Secondly, Microsoft didn't throw all that money into winning the browser wars for bragging rights. They had two main goals:
1. Kill the browser as platform. This was a scary topic that Netscape was talking about in the 90's, and Microsoft had to kill it, as a threat to their OS monopoly.
2. Control the platform. For anyone who remembers MSN "Blackbird", Microsoft has always wanted to own the web. Originally they actually thought MSN could compete with -- and win out over -- the WWW. No, really! Then when they realized they couldn't own it, they decided to try to control all the interfaces, APIs, and methods to access it. Even this hasn't been well executed, since Windows has 95% of the browser market share, but Microsoft's proprietary technologies haven't really caught on that widely -- except as a vehicle for adware and spyware.
I agree that the browser wars mean very little in the sense that Firefox or Safari must "win". The real importance is in that the battle is being fought. As long as there is a battle, the web is safe from being controlled by any one entity, be it M$ or even the Mozilla foundation. It's when there's no one there to serve as a check or balance that our standard-based web is at risk.
Good gravy, that reads like a democratic manifesto. :-)
Re:FireFox question (Score:3, Informative)
From what I've seen, it seems the developers of both Slashcode and Firefox agree it is a bug in Firefox.
/. people need to donate $$$$$ (Score:5, Informative)
People, this is once in a lifetime shot at getting the web back from commercial interested.
$30 or even a $10 will go a LONG way.
Re:Mozilla tool to make it truly the default brows (Score:4, Informative)
Start Button > Set Program Access and Defaults > Choose a Default Web Browser
Re:Interesting? Probably not. (Score:1, Informative)
so run it off a usb thumb drive.
That is whgat I do, my links, and firefox I execute for mthe install I made to a dirt cheap 128 meg usb thumb drive.
the dipshits at IT cant do a thing about that, nor can they track and control it..
which makes me grin... I think I'll go and borrow everyone's ID again and run through the building making the IT people think there is a mob of employees looking for them. (RFID monitoring by a moron boss.)
Re:Sysadmins out there - please note that... (Score:4, Informative)
- Download Firefox 1.0
- Install it
- Configure it how you like it (homepage, themes, bookmarks)
- Move your profile directory (in your home directory) to the defaults directory for Mozilla
- Use advanced installer to pack it into a msi
That way, you can set up Firefox with bookmarks for all your company homepages and with a skin (my favorite is qute) that integrates well with XP.
Re:Love KDE. (Score:3, Informative)
Type in "fish://myuser@any_remote_Linux_box/" in and fall in love.
It works over ssh, which means it will work with just any Linux distro out of the box. (Because AFAIK ssh is installed and active on almost all Linux distros)
You will never use FTP again. FTP is insecure, a hassle to set up and generally outdated.
BTW, the "fish:" links work everywhere in KDE, not just in Konqueror.
Small manufacturer website stats (Score:4, Informative)
IE 6.0: 73.2%
IE 5.5: 6.6%
IE 5.0: 6.1%
NN 6.+: 1.6%
NN 4.7: 1.0%
Mozilla: 3.7%
Safari: 1.6%
And 12 hits from Konqueror! Props to the unix-geek farmers!
Re:I show up as GoogleBot (Score:2, Informative)
for those who want to change it.
http://johnbokma.com/mexit/2004/04/24/changinguse
Re:My Website's Stats (Score:3, Informative)
Which puts you in a different category from 95% of webmasters in the world. Your views of this subject are far from the norm.
year-to-year stats (Score:1, Informative)
OCTOBER 2003
IE 78%
Mozilla 15%
Safari 1%
Opera 1%
Other 5%
OCTOBER 2004
IE 75%
Mozilla 18%
Safari 1%
Opera 1%
Other 5%
Re:Slashdot reader != pro-OSS (Score:2, Informative)
Re:FireFox question (Score:3, Informative)
Re:Firefox weakness (Score:1, Informative)
You can switch tabs with the keyboard by using ctrl-tab and shift-ctrl-tab
If you don't want people to be able to view your saved passwords, you can set a master password.
Before you complain about things you can't do in firefox, you should at least take the time to read the documentation.
Really freak them out (Score:5, Informative)
Translation: We don't guarantee we own it (CONDITION OF TITLE), don't guarantee you won't get legally harrassed because of using it (QUIET ENJOYMENT), and don't guarantee it doesn't infringe on anyone else's copyright (NON-INFRINGEMENT). Your employer has no more guarantee using commercial software unless specifically stated otherwise in a contract.
Show your boss the licenses to the commercial software you're using and watch the sparks fly.