Firefox 1.0 Released

New Here writes "November 9 has arrived and with it comes Firefox 1.0. According to its home page, Firefox empowers you to browse faster, more safely, and more efficiently than with any other browser. I'm New Here, but this Firefox does sound very promising! Firefox 1.0 is available now for Windows, Linux, and Mac from the mozilla.org ftp server."

1.0 right now

[crownrai]

Running 1.0 right now. Seems to work great!

Don't forget to check out the extensions:

[Anonymous Coward]

FoxyTunes is an amazing extension that allows you to control your music right from the browser,
http://www.iosart.com/foxytunes/firefox/

Adblock filters out any unwanted advertisements,
http://adblock.mozdev.org/

And many many more!!!

Mirrors

[peterprior]

Mozilla.org is really getting hammered. Try waiting a few hours for the mirrors to update.

Here is a Google cache of the Firefox Mirror List [64.233.183.104].

Torrents

[praseodym]

Torrents mirrored here: http://firefoxfah.sourceforge.net/fftorrent.html

Mirrors

[ewithrow]

Mirrors:

http://64.12.168.21/pub/mozilla.org/firefox/releas es/1.0 [64.12.168.21]
http://207.200.85.49/pub/mozilla.org/firefox/relea ses/1.0/ [207.200.85.49]
http://trillian.cc.gatech.edu/pub/mozilla.org/fire fox/releases/ [gatech.edu]
http://mozilla.osuosl.org/pub/mozilla.org/firefox/ releases/1.0/ [osuosl.org]
http://mozilla.ussg.indiana.edu/pub/mozilla.org/fi refox/releases/ [indiana.edu]

Official Torrent:

http://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla.org/firefox/rel eases/1.0/win32/en-US/Firefox%20Setup%201.0.exe.to rrent [mozilla.org]

Re:Mirrors

[peterprior]

Obviously just switch the 0.10 to 1.0 in the mirror urls... we can't have everything now can we :)

Finding updated extensions

[Michael_Jarvis]

Your extensions will be disabled unless they are configured as compatible with 1.0. Unfortunately right now trying to use the built in "search for updates" feature is very slow, from server load I presume. I found updates for several of my favorites by searching http://www.mozdev.org/ [mozdev.org].

Re:Torrents

[praseodym]

http://firefoxfah.sourceforge.net/fftorrent.html [sourceforge.net]

links to torrents...

[r1ch]

before it gets hammered too badly:

linux i686 torrent [mozilla.org]

win32 torrent [mozilla.org]

(both EN-US).

A better mirror?

[dschuetz]

For now, at least: ftpmoz.newaol.com/pub/mozilla.org/firefox/releases /1.0/ [newaol.com]


Anyone know if the New York Times ad went through? Is it available to view anywhere?

BBC front page Story

[GillBates0]

New browser takes on Microsoft [bbc.co.uk]. Pretty fair coverage IMHO.

Runs like a breeze!

[choas]

For the Europeans: http://www.mozilla-europe.org/en/products/firefox/ [mozilla-europe.org]

Donkey:

OS X Will rule this world [ed2k]
Windows Exe [ed2k]
tar.gz [ed2k]

Mirrors

[Amadablam]

ftp://mozilla.isc.org/pub/mozilla.org/firefox/rele ases/1.0/ [isc.org]
ftp://mozilla.ussg.indiana.edu/pub/mozilla.org/fir efox/releases/1.0/ [indiana.edu]
ftp://mozilla.oregonstate.edu/pub/mozilla.org/fire fox/releases/1.0/ [oregonstate.edu]
Official mozilla.org torrent for Win32:
ftp://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla.org/firefox/rele ases/1.0/win32/en-US/Firefox%20Setup%201.0.exe.tor rent [mozilla.org]

Re:1.0 right now

[metricmusic]

Its great! I downloaded it from here: http://mozilla.ussg.indiana.edu/pub/mozilla.org/fi refox/releases/1.0/win32/en-US/Firefox%201.0.zip Don't think slashdot will be able to bring down an edu. Go firefox!

Torrent links.

[Anonymous Coward]

Linux
firefox-1.0.installer.tar.gz.torrent [mozilla.org]
firefox-1.0.tar.gz.torrent [mozilla.org]

Windows
Firefox Setup 1.0.exe.torrent [mozilla.org]
Firefox 1.0.zip.torrent [mozilla.org]

Mac
Full download no torrent available [mozilla.org]

Coverage at the bbc

[JaJ_D]

See the bbc [bbc.co.uk] story

Nice to see Firefox is getting the press it deserves

Jaj

Re:slashdotted already?

[ink_polaroid]

Bad form to reply to my own post, but some more useful links here:

Windows torrent [207.200.85.49] and executable [207.200.85.49].
Linux torrents for installer [207.200.85.49] and tarball [207.200.85.49].

Re:Mirrors

[LogicX]

Direct Mirror [100bigcoupons.com] to Firefox Setup 1.0.exe [100bigcoupons.com]

Re:Don't forget to check out the extensions:

[Anonymous Coward]

Posted as plain text by mistake ;)

FoxyTunes: http://www.iosart.com/foxytunes/firefox/ [iosart.com]

AdBlock: http://adblock.mozdev.org/ [mozdev.org]

More: http://update.mozilla.org [mozilla.org]

Re:Slashdot

[bigbadwlf]

longer if you get the torrent [mozilla.org] (win32).
This one [mozilla.org] for Linux.

Re:A better mirror?

[ewithrow]

Anyone know if the New York Times ad went through? Is it available to view anywhere?

The design has not been finalized yet. Also, when they submit the final design to the New York Times, the newspaper gives them a window of about three weeks for which the ad could run. This gets Spread Firefox a better price.

Make sure

[pagal_paanda]

Please make sure that you uninstall any previous Firefox version before installing FireFox 1.0, as it could create some problems with the older version. Just trying to help out fellow slashdotters and hoping in the process that someone would dump some mod points on me.

Comment removed

[account_deleted]

Comment removed based on user account deletion

Re:New York Times Ad

[sfraggle]

If you read the spreadfirefox FAQ, the ad wont run on the day of release but in some point within the next three weeks. They get better pricing if they dont demand a specific day.

BBC

[nmg196]

The BBC now has an article on this [bbc.co.uk].

Obviously so do lots of other sites [google.co.uk]

Re:A better mirror?

[Anonymous Coward]

The ad won't appear for a few weeks. The Spread Firefox team knew they would get lots of free publicity to mark the release of 1.0, but want to use the ad as a "reminder" once the initial hype has died down. Plus to get cheaper rates, they specified a three week window rather than a specific date. Expect to see it in late November/early December.

Spread the love!

[jacoplane]

Help out grassroots advocacy for Firefox @ Spread Firefox [spreadfirefox.com]. This is the community that organised the NYTimes add.

The site seems to be down so here is the Google cache [64.233.183.104] and the Corel link [nyud.net].

Re:Please tell me

[Anonymous Coward]

Why should I switch from Mozilla to Firefox?

Is this a troll? Could be, but it's a legit question.

Why I switched.

Tabbed browsing (I don't use this my self)
3rd button triggers new tab when on a link, or triggers fast/slow scroll
Bookmarks better defined

Why I am annoyed:

No IRC client
Download Manager defaults to same place

Re:Please tell me

[JayTeeUK]

To quote someone in my regular forum:

I don't think they're that far apart. Try it, if you like it, stick with it. If you don't then it's never going to change that much that you'll struggle to switch.

And to quote my own reply:

I'd go with that. I switched from the Mozilla Suite back when Firefox was Firebird (v0.6 I think) and I haven't looked back. Although there were problems with the options dialogue back then, I found the increased speed (both in loading and operation) really made a difference.

Convert friends - add top 10 reasons for FF here

[Kingpin]

What are the top 10 reasons to use FF over IE? I'll start:

1. Security
Any really good arguments here?

2. Standards
Open standards ensure that independent vendors can compete on fair grounds. The W3C is the de facto standards body for internet standards. Firefox is implemented from the ground up based on those standards. Standard compliant websites will show in any browsers (on any platform) that also complies to the standards, and not just in a specific browser with its own standard.

3. Extensibility
Different users have different needs. For most, the normal Firefox distribution has all required features. For some, a specific extra feature is of considerable value. Firefox has support for plugin's, which is small custom components of code that can deliver near any functionality.

4. Reliability
In firefox, what you see is what you get. No hidden agendas, no spy-ware installing behind your back.

5. Comfort
Do you remember how the internet was a few years back when there were no annoying pop-up's and you didn't have to worry about spyware installing on your machine behind your back? With Firefox, you can once again realize that blissful sensation of using the Internet.

6. Continuity
Firefox is not going to stop innovating at 1.0 or whenever it has market dominance. Firefox is here to stay, and to keep evolving.

7. Slickness
Firefox has stunning looks and sleek controls. You can download a theme with a few clicks, or you can create your own. Firefox is hot, Internet Explorer is not.

8. For the people, by the people
Microsoft [com.com] is not your friend. Firefox, like much open source software, is built for the people, by the people. You'll find that Firefox is surrounded by an enthusiastic community of supporters, not big business. Firefox, like other Open Source Software, is built, maintained and supported by people who believe in sharing, cooperation, and community.

9. ?

10.?

It's fixed

[sethadam1]

If you download one of the nightly builds, you'll see it's actually fixed in the "trunk," but not in the "branch" 1.0 came from, because it apparently caused too many other flaky reactions.

bug 264913 [mozilla.org]
bug 217527 [mozilla.org]

The good news is that Slashdot WORKS again in the nightlies. If you really want, you can grab a nightly build here [scarlet.be] and check it out for yourself. They are generally pretty stable, but thy sometimes f with your extensions.

Re:Please tell me

[discordja]

Just depends on what you use primarily. I found myself before using Firefox and Thunderbird but not a lot of extensions on either one. I kept both open all the time. So why spend the extra memory when the combined footprint on Mozilla browser/client as a suite is smaller than the combined fox/bird?

If you find yourself as a power user that has a ton of diff extensions, don't find yourself stuck in your mail client all the time, then use firefox / thunderbird. Mozilla will meet your needs if you just want a browser with all the security of fox but nothing else of it.

Re:Google hosted homepage

[shird]

The IE one is designed to go in the explorer bar search pane of IE, thus it is narrow, small and lightweight.

I care

[sethadam1]

Some of us require browsers for work - web developers, researchers, IT people. Firefox contributes GREATLY to producitivity: tabbed browsing with middle click background-opening is unmatched in IE. It makes google'ing 10 times faster.

Plus, it's so much easier as an IT manager, because IE is a friggin magnet for shit - people end up with so much junk on their computer that DOES come from IE. Exploits are written for IE, and IE is more flawed than any other browser and the security fixes take longer than any other browser.

Maybe you SHOULD care!

Re:Don't forget to check out the extensions:

[glpierce]

For those of you looking for effective Adblock filters, I recommend giving Filterset.G [geocities.com] a try - the people over at the Adblock Project Forum [aasted.org] like it quite a bit.

Tried with fres profile?

[Freggy]

Try to remove your old profile. You can export your bookmarks first and reimport them later on.

Re:Next, SVG

[LogicX]

Keep an eye on Moox's Site. [www.moox.ws]
He's already in the past done release builds of Firefox with SVG. They were pretty nice.

I'd watch for it in a few days.
Meanwhile, I've already setup a Mirror of Moox's FireFox 1.0 Optimized release builds, just incase he gets slammed. [100bigcoupons.com]

Re:New, but unstable

[Anonymous Coward]

You probably need to nuke your "Documents and Settings\$USER\Application Data\Mozilla\Firefox\*" if you haven't already.

Big fuck-offs to the AC above me.

Use Mirrors

[loconet]

Please people, use the mirrors or the mozilla.org ftp redirect. The plugin finder is suffering from the slashdotting and massive surge in traffic. We don't want to drive people away as the first thing they experience is problems finding/updating their extensions/themes.

http://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla.org/firefox/rel eases/ [mozilla.org]

Re:Torrents

[Denis Lemire]

Sweet. Pulled it down from the torrent in seconds. Can't even reach Mozilla.org or spreadfirefox.com or any of those sites right now. They are simply swamped.

I wonder how bad my home server would get pounded if I were to post a link to the FireFox 1.0 download [incoherency.net]. Go ahead, pound it... It's a special occassion. ;)

Re:Rendering slashdot

[Anonymous Coward]

You can also correct it by selecting

View > Page Style > No Page Style

then re-selecting

View > Page Style > Basic Page Style

This implies that the problem is somewhere in the rendering, because it is redisplaying the same page from cache.

Also if the page is rendering in a background tab (as opposed to the foreground one) it seems to corrupt more regularly.

Had to completely uninstall the Preview Release

[clubin]

Using the executable installer to install to the path of my existing Firefox installation (PR1) resulted in the browser's shell completely flaking out when the browser was eventually launched. No start page would load. The Bookmarks menu was empty (clicking on Manage Bookmarks and then returning to the Bookmarks menu solved this). Visiting web pages didn't seem to affect the interface whatsoever (i.e.: no active back button, no loading page animation, no updating of location bar, etc.). In general, the shell seemed disconnected from the application itself.

A normal uninstall, followed by a re-install did not solve the problem. Files were left in the install directory and, when prompted, I chose to wipe out the entire directory. Only after performing a complete uninstall (completely deleting the install path, but preserving the profiles) and reinstalling did Firefox work properly. Your mileage may vary, but I hope this isn't a widespread problem, as a 1.0 release isn't the time for screwups like this.

Might I have been doing something wrong? Installing a new version to the old path seems to be a a well-supported idiom, as I've been doing that for ages without problems with all manners of programs.

Re:Mirrors

[gl4ss]

autoupdate worked beautifully.

options->advanced->software_update->check now

Re:Mirrors

[override11]

the bittorrent link has like 500 seeds, takes about 30 seconds to download the whole file. :)

Re:Had to completely uninstall the Preview Release

[OldCrasher]

Yup, you have to completely uninstall the prior version. The uninstall WILL NOT remove your prior settings, they are retained. It's an act of faith, just Believe! Brothers and Sisters!

Ahem... Sorry for that outburst, I am a survivor of the vi / emacs religious wars and sometimes I get flash backs.....

Moox Build

[neosake]

Here are the Moox [www.moox.ws] cpu-optimized builds for windows (I've been using these since 0.9.3, and they seem significantly faster on my Athlon XP).

Enjoy

Re:And not only that

[the_quark]

I'll address your second first, because it's easier. Go to Tools->Options->Advanced->Accessabulity and uncheck "Begin finding when you begin typing." I'm not 100% sure that addresses all your concerns, but it's a start.

On the first one - I realize this is a lot more of a pain than deleting libullplugin, but I think I have solution for you. I presume you are mostly complaining about flash. Download and install the adblock extension. Ad an adblock extension for *.swf, and adblock will block all flash for you, and I'm betting that'll happen before it looks for the plugin and stop the warnings.

Mirror, mirror on the wall...

[citizenkeller]

A couple more mirrors:
http://almaren.ch/download/firefox-1.0/ [almaren.ch]
http://publipress.com/download/firefox-1.0/ [publipress.com]

The various versions and locales are slowly trickling in.

(Yes, it's my Official Kharma Whoring Day...)

Re:Please tell me

[Scarblac]

Why should I switch from Mozilla to Firefox?

There isn't all that much difference. But the Firefox extensions are good (and easy to fetch), especially Web Developer gives you loads of cool tools for inspecting web pages, and Mozilla Firesomething is an instant classic (it's a parody on Firefox' name's history - it gives your windows names like "Mozilla Superkoala" - this sort of thing cracks me up. But then I am a nerd).

Friends of mine love the mouse gestures extension, but I didn't like Black and White much...

Re:Had to completely uninstall the Preview Release

[cortana]

One of the most prominent entries in the Release Notes [mozilla.org] states that you MUST NOT install the new Firefox over an old version. In fact, this has been true for as long as I remember. Just because it didn't cause problems vor you in the past doesn't mean that it will always work.

In fact, it's probably best to create a new profile, the one I've lugged around since 0.4 has probably gotten a bit crufty. :)

Re:Rendering slashdot

[md81544]

This is the reflow bug and it's much quicker to do a quick Ctrl+ then Ctrl- (or Ctrl-Mousewheel Up followed by Ctrl-Mousewheel down) to force a redraw of the existing page by changing font size. Hitting reload in my experience often doesn't help and just adds to site traffic.

I'm disappointed this wasn't fixed in 1.0, I'd seen comments to suggest it would have been.

Workaround.

[nlinecomputers]

Open Firefox and put about:config in the address line.

Put app.extensions.version in the filter.

Change value from 1.0 to 0.10

Most, if not all, extensions that work in PR should work now.

Your extensions will have to be reactivated by right clicking on each extension and selecting Enable.

Use at your own risk...Lawyers make me say that...

Re:New Here's posting record is fanastic

[Heem]

The only problems I've seen firefox cause are not the fault of firefox, but of poor web design. Those web designers who don't bother to test their work on anything but IE. IMHO, if you are going to be doing web design for anything more then your own personal page, you need to have numerous browsers installed on your machine, and either physical boxes or VMware session to other OSes to test, test ,test. But I suppose that is lost to many.

Re:Mirrors

[Anonymous Coward]

Even the Mirror list is slow, here are some direct links.

http://www.artfiles.org/mozilla.org/firefox/releas es/1.0/ [artfiles.org](Germany)
ftp://ftp.lab.kdd.co.jp/Mozilla/firefox/releases/1 .0/ [kdd.co.jp]
http://ftp.kaist.ac.kr/pub/mozilla/firefox/release s/1.0/ [kaist.ac.kr]
ftp://ftp.kaist.ac.kr/pub/mozilla/firefox/releases /1.0/ [kaist.ac.kr]
ftp://ftp.rediris.es/mirror/mozilla/firefox/releas es/1.0/ [rediris.es]
http://ftp.rediris.es/mirror/mozilla/firefox/relea ses/1.0/ [rediris.es]
http://sunsite.rediris.es/pub/mozilla.org/firefox/ releases/1.0/ [rediris.es]
ftp://sunsite.rediris.es/pub/mozilla.org/firefox/r eleases/1.0/ [rediris.es]
ftp://sunsite.cnlab-switch.ch/mirror/mozilla/firef ox/releases/1.0/ [cnlab-switch.ch]
ftp://mozilla.isc.org/pub/mozilla.org/firefox/rele ases/1.0/ [isc.org] (US)
ftp://trillian.cc.gatech.edu/pub/mozilla.org/firef ox/releases/1.0/ [gatech.edu]
ftp://mozilla.ussg.indiana.edu/pub/mozilla.org/fir efox/releases/1.0/ [indiana.edu]
ftp://mozilla.oregonstate.edu/pub/mozilla.org/fire fox/releases/1.0/ [oregonstate.edu]
http://mirrors.kernel.org/mozilla/firefox/releases /1.0/ [kernel.org] (US)
ftp://mirrors.kernel.org/mozilla/firefox/releases/ 1.0/ [kernel.org] (US)

Re:I don't mind FireFox but...

[bunratty]

It's not that themes are so complex. It's that a trivial change to Firefox code can break all themes. That requires a new release of the theme, resulting in point releases.

It's just like adding a new UI element with text can break a localization. Localizations without a translation for the new text won't work properly.

Now that Firefox 1.0 is out, the themes can be frozen and won't break for Firefox 1.0.x.

Re:Good grief

[badfish99]

Yes... you know that it's round, and Europe is 5 hours ahead of the US.

Re:I care

[Mant]

For web development, the Javascript console, DOM Inspector, web developer and javascript debuggers are a godsend. It makes dealing with CSS and Javasctipt so much quicker and easier.

Re: Find

[akiaki007]

First of all, by default, you have to type '/' to activate the search as you find tool. Also, the Edit->Find features are still there. Type Control+F and the field will come up so you can type in whatever you want. And then you type in what you want, and then hit enter. Then to search again you can hit F3 or Control+G. So I really don't understand your gripe at all. If you want to change the search/find utility to automatically search as you type (meaning, no typing '/' first), then you can do that as well via Tools-Options->Advanced->Accessibility->2 nd Option.

So...I'm pretty sure I understood your post correctly, but it didn't make much sense, because you can still do CtrlF, F3 as you did before. That has not changed. If I'm wrong, then reply to this.

Re:Who did the artwork?

[bunratty]

silverorange [silverorange.com]

Re:Slashdot bug still present :(

[kryptkpr]

Work-around bookmarklet:

javascript:(function(){var s=document.body.style; var x=s.display; s.display='none'; s.display=x;})()

Not written by me, but very useful.. throw that into a bookmark, and put it on your bookmarks toolbar.

XUL deserves more light

[anpe]

9. XUL really rocks:
Have a look here: http://www.faser.net/mab/chrome/content/mab.xul [faser.net]

New?

[FuzzyDaddy]

Look at his username... He's "New Here".

Beta Extensions

[Anonymous Coward]

The browser was written to disable plugins not specifically written for 1.0. The 1.0 release comes with a frozen extension protocol and they have to wipe the slate clean in terms of protocol standards. If they didn't do it, you'd still complain about a broken extension system supporting half-written extensions in Firefox.

Re:Mirrors

[wscott]

BTW. The torrent took 21 seconds to download the file.

Re:And not only that

[Greyfox]

You can get an extension off the extensions page that replaces flash with an play icon. You have to install the extension, then go to tools->extensions to activate it, then restart. That seemed to stop it from nagging me about flash, which is the only plugin I ever seem to run up against that causes that sort of trouble. Then you don't need to install flash unless you actually want to play one of those things.

You can also get the nuke anything extension and just remove the offending object, but that takes sightly more effort.

I'm sticking with 10.1 for a few weeks...

[Anonymous Coward]

Too many extensions broke with the 1.0 PR's and now 1.0 final.

Early adoption is bad in this case if you are trying to be productive daily with it.

10.1 is the most compatible so far, fewest bugs and they took out some features I liked after 10.1 like the easy stylesheet switcher in the statusbar.

Re:Rendering slashdot

[Masa]

Has anyone else seen Firefox render slashdot incorrectly?

Yes. And I've seen some other sites render incorrectly too.

In Slashdot case, simply Ctrl-+, Ctrl-= should do the trick, but unfortunatelly there are some sites out there, where even this trick will not fix the page. Also, there seems to be some sort of CSS rendering bug in Firefox, which fucks up Bloglines.com, if you use some proxy server.

There are some other bugs still in Firefox, which haven't been fixed even if there are several bug reports about these issues. (rendering, lock-ups, etc.)

There also seems to be a way to work around the pop-up filter. I've bumped into sites, which are able to open tons of pop-ups and crash the Firefox even if the pop-up blocker is on. I need to investigate this issue a bit more and file a report, if there already isn't a bug report in Bugzilla.

So, you're not only one having problems with Firefox.

Re:Unofficial Change Log

[tksh]

If you're wondering what's new in 1.0, here's a link to the unofficial changed log [squarefree.com] (link grabbed from mozilla.org's FF release notes).

In case it gets slashdotted, new features:

• New options for controlling where links from other applications open.
• New experimental options for controlling where links in web pages open. To make these experimental options appear, set browser.tabs.showSingleWindowModePrefs to true in about:config.
• Firefox is now available in 14 languages.

And improvements:

• "Sort by name" in Bookmarks should sort siblings, not children.
• Information bar (blocked popup, missing plugin, etc) should be closeable.
• View Source should use Find Toolbar.
• Find toolbar loses content when new tab clicked.
• Disable sites reloading onresize. (Many sites reload onresize to work around bugs in Netscape 4. This caused problems in Firefox due to tabs, the Find bar, and information bars.)

Up-to-date mirror

[anpe]

I successfully grabbed a copy from here [rediris.es]

Re:And not only that

[Kevertje]

It is possible to turn this off:

Go to Tools > Options

In that dialog, go to the 'Advanced' pane

Open up 'Accessibility' (if it isn't open already) and turn off 'Begin finding when you begin typing'

It would definitely have been nice with an option that could turn it off.
Your wish has been granted ;-)

Re:And not only that

[BorgDrone]

Point one: enter about:config into the adres bar, filter on "plugin" , play around with the plugin.default_plugin_disabled and application.use_ns_plugin_finder settings

Re:Don't forget to check out the extensions:

[Androclese]

The *best* Tab Browsing extensions are located here: http://piro.sakura.ne.jp/xul/xpi/tabextensions_en. xpi [sakura.ne.jp]

They stopped publishing it in the main list for some reason. I've been using it for over a year now and it really pushes the tabbed browsing experince to what it should be. (he updates it often)

- Single window browsing
- Color-tab grouping
- etc.

Re:Had to completely uninstall the Preview Release

[Mournblade]

Actually, what it says is "When installing as a restricted access user do not attempt to install over an installation in a restricted-access/shared location as this may destroy that installation." (at least, that's what's on the page you linked).

Nowhere do the release notes say that you must not install new versions over old. Having used the suite since .9 and dabbling w/Phoenix/Firebird/Firefox occasionally over it's development cycle, I am well aware that the release notes used to say that, but they no longer do.

Having said that, if you can post a link to a page that reads as you say it does, please do. Instructions like that should be featured prominently in the release notes.

Re:Next, SVG

[Anonymous Coward]

For those of you that don't know what the difference betwwen the M1, M2 and M3 builds:
(copy/paste from mooxs site)

Firefox M3 & Thunderbird M3 Builds
M3 builds are highly optimized builds that also contain code optimized for the SSE2 instruction set. Given the nature of M3 builds, they are designed only for the following processors that support SSE2:

* AMD Opteron
* AMD Athlon FX
* AMD Athlon 64
* AMD Sempron (3100+)
* Intel Xeon
* Intel Pentium M
* Intel Pentium 4
* Intel Celeron D
* Intel Celeron (1.7GHz - 2.8GHz)

Firefox M2 & Thunderbird M2 Builds
M2 builds are highly optimized builds that also contain code optimized for the SSE instruction set. Given the nature M2 builds, they are designed only for the following processors that support SSE:

* AMD Athlon XP
* AMD Athlon MP
* AMD Sempron (2200+ - 2800+)
* AMD Duron (1.0GHz - 1.8GHz)
* Intel Pentium 3
* Intel Celeron (533MHz - 1.4GHz)

Firefox M1 & Thunderbird M1 Builds
M1 builds are generally optimized builds that also contain code optimized for the MMX instruction set. M1 builds are targeted for the following processors:

* AMD Athlon
* AMD K6-2
* Intel Pentium 2
* Intel Pentium Pro
* Intel Pentium

Re:Can someone confirm a few things?

[Yaztromo]

Is this browser compatible with banking sites?

Depends completely on your bank. Mine [bmo.com] works just fine -- but it's up to your bank to either create a standards-based solution, or one that is locked into IE.

Is it really faster than Safari in Mac OS X?

I'm going to disagree with the crowd a bit and say "yes", but with a caveat.

On my PowerBook G4 12" (Rev. C), FireFox v1.0 feels faster than Safari (in 10.3.6) -- but this could be in part because of the ad-blocking features in FireFox which don't exist in Safari (also the primary reason why FireFox is my browser-of-choice on OS X, over both Safari and Camino), which puts Safari at a disadvantage (as on many sites, it's downloading and rendering more data than FireFox is on the same sites).

HTH!

Yaz.

One more mirror

[Poleris]

This one is right at the hub of NYC. Big pipes.

http://www.friedneko.com/Firefox Setup 1.0.exe [friedneko.com]

Re:Mirrors

[Sentry21]

Also, be sure to check out the Moox Optimized [www.moox.ws] Win32 builds. I installed the Firefox M3 build a while back, and I have to say, Firefox was fast before, but now it's downright snappy.

Be kind to his bandwidth though.

Re:what firefox needs

[MrPink2U]

Firefox for Windows has built in NTLM authentication. Type your username/password combo in and go nuts.

Re:Finding updated extensions

[Val314]

http://www.extensionsmirror.nl/index.php?showtopic =1351 [extensionsmirror.nl] is a better list

Re:Migrating from the Mozilla Suite

[Drantin]

Sorry that I can't give a definitive answer, using a gov't computer atm... but IIRC mozilla and firefox store their favorites in an html file (netscape 7 definitely did...) and you could just copy the file from one directory to another, or look for settings that point to a settings directory? maybe in about:config...

as for having them both installed, if you use a zip file rather than an exe installer, you can have as many versions as you want installed concurrently, although you may have to set up multiple personal profiles depending on when configuration storing changed, etc...

firefox 1.0 installer overwrote my bookmarks

[mwilliamson]

Dammit! I'm left with an empty bookmark folder and to my dismay, bookmarks.bak has also been overwritten after installing firefox 1.0. Be warned!!!

Re:Too bad it runs like ass on my computer.

[JShadow]

I agree, I've got a K6-2 500mhz with only 256mb RAM and firefox is nice and nimble.

Re:But the real question...

[CTho9305]

The suite is not being ignored. Live bookmarks are in the Suite, as are all the Thunderbird features you mentioned. Tabbed-browser improvements are being added as well.

The reason you don't see this yet is development happens on trunk (currently 1.8a6), but the current release is on the 1.7 branch. Generally when a version branches, features are not backported to it - only more important and stable updates (crash fixes, rendering fixes, etc) get included. If you download a trunk nightly, you'll find all of these features.

Unfortunately, due to the Firefox hype, there are few users testing the 1.8 alphas, meaning that 1.8 will have to stay in alpha longer (it's on alpha 6 right now) before moving to beta and eventually release. A lot of the developers who work on Mozilla projects don't use, like, or care about Fireofx - the suite is not going to die any time soon.

Re:Please tell me

[frankie]

There is one significant reason to use the standalones instead of Moz suite: if you load a boggy or crashy page in Firefox, you can switch to Thunderbird and check your mail while you wait. With Mozilla, problems in one half will take down the other. If you want this fixed, please join bug 115903:

http://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=115903

Re:Where is Preferences?

[jsebrech]

I believe this was done for consistency with microsoft's software in windows. The logical place is indeed under edit, but usability has little to do with logic. If most windows users expect it under tools, under tools it must go.

Re:And not only that

[binux]

May I suggest the flashblock extension [mozdev.org] instead. It replaces the flash animation with a box containing a play button. Click the play button if you think you want to watch the flash animation.

Re:Please tell me

[Anonymous Coward]

Click the bookmark link with the middle/3rd button. It will then open it in a new tab.

Re:FB!

[Anonymous Coward]

No.

The plugin works fine, if you give it enough time to install.

The bug is that "half-installed" plugins can be accessed.

Also, the plugin used is a search engine, which are considered compatible across all versions.

Try to MOOX Power

[fok]

Optimized Firefox & Thunderbird Release Builds [moox.ws]

Don't forget

[Phantasmo]

the student/IT worker's best friend, Portable Firefox [nyud.net]. Works great off of my USB keydrive. :D

Re:Mirrors

[Julian352]

In general, he created a specific builds compiled for each architecture. For those architectures he turned on the optimizations best for the CPU. For example, his builds include MMX/SSE2 compiler optimizations to take advantage of that portion of the CPU pipeline.

I personally have found that something he turned on has resulted in the browser being more page-out friendly, which on my XP-SP2 box results in slow un-minimize due to paging.

Re:Page rendering errors

[flex941]

This a known problem/bug [mozilla.org] for many Firefox relases. For some of them this occured more frequently. For some, less. It should be fixed in Firefox CVS, but Firefox team didn't want to include this in 1.0 because they were afraid the fix could break some other sites.

Re:Where is Preferences?

[cicho]

I disagree. "Edit" menu contains editing commands, right? Cut, copy, paste, delete (no matter if it spplies to text, image or other content). What's logical about placing Options there?

It's just as illogical to put options under "View" menu, which is meant for managing the way content is displayed in the program. You don't just "view" options, you view and modify them. "Tools" is a kind of a catch-all, but it makes most sense of the three.

Not to be a whore or anything but...

[Fnkmaster]

If you are a regular Slashdot surfer, you might want to check out my extension, SlashFix [hardgrok.org] which fixes the very annoying Slashdot rendering errors in the Firefox 1.0 branch.

These errors are fixed in the Mozilla trunk source code, but for apparently sound reasons, the developers didn't want to check the fixes into the 1.0 branch, apparently because they caused problems with some other, unnamed web sites. SlashFix is a good interim solution so you don't feel compelled to start up IE just to surf your favorite geek time-waste.

Re:1.0 right now

[JimDabell]

Your browser detecting technique is broken. If you send different content to clients depending on which HTTP request headers are sent, you need to send an appropriate Vary response header [w3.org]. Otherwise public caches could serve the wrong content to the wrong browsers, resulting in Firefox users getting "upgrade to Firefox" and non-Firefox users getting the content intended for Firefox users.

Re:Where is Preferences?

[EMR]

I am with you on that.. In firefox 0.8 it was under tools where it belongs.. Preferences has absolutely nothing to do with anything else in the edit menu, where as it DOES in the tools menu, as I go configure my extensions in the tools menu. I configure my themes, download manager, adblock, user agent switcher, etc.. All in the tools menu..

Need to write an extension for firefox to put the menu in the CORRECT place. Every other application on my linux desktop puts it under tools, or settings menus.. very few if any put it under edit anymore on linux boxes.. So their reasoning is invalid.

Re:Where is Preferences?

[Gallowglass]

While I agree with you, the world reality in design is that existing conventions should probably be followed. If everybody has been putting "Options" under "Edit", and you don't; then you are asking your clients to learn a new location for "Options".

This is often referred to as "P---ing off your customers" and generally garners resentment. Much as back a number of years ago, we snarled at WordPerfect for its unique use of the F3 key for "Help".

Suggested reading: "The Design of Everyday Objects" (Originally, "The Psychology of Everyday Things"n) by Donald Norman.

(IMNSHO, every programmer should read/own this book.)

Portable Firefox updated, too

[jddqr]

Portable Firefox (Firefox on a USB keychain or whatnot) has been updated to 1.0 as well. The advantage of this is that you can take the browser wherever you go, and your bookmarks, extensions, etc. go with you...

http://johnhaller.com/jh/mozilla/portable_firefox/ [johnhaller.com]

Great stuff!!

411 on MOOX builds [Re:Mirrors]

[Anonymous Coward]

Quick FYI/FAQ on MOOX's builds...

The website is here: http://moox.ws and the MOOX versions of the official builds are here: http://www.moox.ws/tech/mozilla/releasebuilds.htm

As for how these builds are different
1) Moox uses a number of compiler and linker optimizations to take advantage of specific CPU architecture features (see http://moox.ws/tech/mozilla/#Mdefs for details).
2) Moox uses a number of other source code changes developed himself and another builder that further optimize the source code - help with certain computations, alignments, image processing, etc.
3) Moox also adds in patches from bugzilla to enable features that are not yet in the source tree, stablize the builds further, and make the builds more user friendly.

Moox will also be releasing localized, language specific builds of the official Firefox 1.0 source beginning later this afternoon. He says he will localize all of the M builds into more than 25 different localizations. These will begin to be available after 5:30PM CST on 2004.11.09 according to a post in his forum (http://moox.ws/forum).

Moox Torrents

[Quizo69]

With thanks to escaflo:

Moox Firefox 1.0 M1 (MMX) Torrent [curtin.edu.au]

Moox Firefox 1.0 M2 (SSE) Torrent [curtin.edu.au]

Moox Firefox 1.0 M3 (SSE2) Torrent [curtin.edu.au]

Use the torrents and save his bandwidth.

Re:Rendering slashdot

[Fnkmaster]

That is not a bug with my extension, it's a Firefox issue. My extension is most likely too simple to have any real bugs of its own, the actual code is about 10-15 lines of Javascript.

When you get that problem while installing any extension, it usually means there is a hanging Firefox process on your computer that you need to manually kill (CTRL-ALT-DELETE, find it, kill it on Windows). Now restart Firefox and the extension should be installed. Now check Slashdot.org to see if it's working (and validate that it is actually installed in the Tools->Extensions menu.

Lemme know if you have any problems, nobody has reported any real issues with SlashFix yet.

Hehe :) Firefox slashdotted slashdot's RSS :)

[carlmenezes]

HEHEE...

Think about it...
TONS of geeks downloading Firefox.
Each copy of Firefox has a live bookmark pointing to slashdot.
Slashdot's RSS news feed get's slashdotted and Cmdr. Taco goes nuts :)
Finally, this is what happened [slashdot.org] :)

I really wonder what the present download count is!

Re:1.0 right now

[Eric Giguere]

You're quite right about the Vary header, and I've updated the page (and the header viewer) accordingly, thanks: How to detect Firefox [ericgiguere.com].

Eric
Reading C Declarations: A Guide for the Mystified [ericgiguere.com]

Re:Mirrors

[Pushnell]

In general, apps have no control whether they get swapped out or not under Windows. In fact, when an application gets minimized, Windows pretty aggressively swaps as much of that app out to try to keep the rest of your apps snappy, whether or not you're short on RAM. However, due to a nifty hack, the moz devs have found a way to prevent or at least reduce how much of their app gets swapped out when minimized. If your desktop habits include frequently minimizing / restoring Firefox, try this:

1) Go to about:config
2) Right-click in the content area and create a new Boolean value
3) Name it "config.trim_on_minimize" and set it to false.
4) Close & relaunch

See bugzilla bug# 76831 if you'd like more details. (no linking to bugs from slashdot)

Re:Unofficial Change Log

[beerits]

Apple-` will switch between the windows of the active application.

Re:1.0 right now

[Jagasian]

Java and Flash on Linux are at least as good as their Windows versions. Yeah sites that use them can be slow, annoying, and sometimes, though very rarely, cause browser instability, but I see the same crap happen to my wife under Windows XP with IE.

The type of plugins that still suck on Linux are media player browser plugins. Sure there is an mplayer plugin for Mozilla, but after over a year of using it... I still feel that it is crap. So for video and music that is not streamed, I just download to a local folder and play from there. However, for streamed content, I tend to be up sh*t creek.

Re:Does it still garble .NET pages?

[frankie]

just wondering, what happens when you run your "new ASP.NET hosted site" through The Validator [w3.org]?

Re:Tabbed Browsing

[fok]

I'm using Firefox 1.0 (MOOX M2) and the shortcut is ctrl+#

Re:1.0 right now

[aardvarkjoe]

So for video and music that is not streamed, I just download to a local folder and play from there. However, for streamed content, I tend to be up sh*t creek.

With recent versions of mplayer (the last year or so) I haven't come across any streamed media that it can't play, although I sometimes have to do a bit of digging to find the right URL. You can even use the -dumpstream option to make a copy of the file.

Re:Not to be a whore or anything but...

[DarkHelmet]

I read this a while back from an earlier post, but you can fix the rendering problems on slashdot easily by pressing CTRL-+ and then CTRL-- (control and plus, control and minus). When resizing the text, slashdot is rendered properly. In any case, cool plugin :). The slashdot bug will be fixed in the next release, though.

Re:The best thing about Firefox (and OpenOffice) i

[Hmmble]

OpenOffice on MacosX without X11 dependency (NeoOffice): http://www.neooffice.org/

OpenOffice with X11: http://porting.openoffice.org/mac/ooo-osx_download s.html

Re:And not only that

[superyooser]

To search for links, type an apostrophe (') before you type your text. You can change the default behavior in the preferences by typing about:config in the location bar.

Re:Not really

[chinmay7]

Infact, there is an update notification. It's not great, perhaps there should be a more obvious one, but here's [vanderbilt.edu] a screenshot of what I got [on 1.0 PR]

Re:address bar keywords

[ip_vjl]

Go to the site that has the search for which you want to create a keyword.

On that site, Right click the form field and choose 'Add a keyword for this search' ... it will prompt you with the save bookmark dialog .. there will be a box labeled 'keyword' - enter the keyword you want to use.

Once added, FF will allow you to use that keyword in exactly the way you described.

You can also add them manually, by mucking with the URL the way you describe, but this UI method allows you to do it and automatically creates the passable fields for you.

Torrent

[scum-e-bag]

Here is the torrent.

http://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla.org/firefox/r el eases/1.0/source/firefox-1.0-source.tar.bz2.torren t

Looks like you are going to have to compile it yourself.

Re:Not to be a whore or anything but...

[Fnkmaster]

Well, it's pretty much impossible that it's not working, since it is just a couple lines of Javascript that gets run when the document.onload event is triggered. If you load Slashdot and see the left margin "jump" into place just as the page finishes loading, that's the Javascript working.

What you are probably seeing is that document.onload doesn't get triggered until the pageload is 100% completed, and this is mentioned on my website on believe. Occasionally (usually when under heavy load, or when you are on a slow/shitty connection) Slashdot seems to hang just before it finishes loading in Firefox, and the pageload never finishes, or takes an absurdly long time to finish loading. In this case, the "fix" Javascript never gets triggered. This has happened a couple of times to me since installing my own Slashfix extension, but the situation is far, far better than it was before (it happens on maybe 3-4% of Slashdot pageviews for me, versus 70-75% of pageviews).

If I could figure out how to write a chunk of Javascript into the page mid-page load, or to do pseudo-HTML-rewriting-proxy stuff like Adblock, then the fix would be perfect. If you know how to do this, please submit a patch to me, or just let me know, I will gladly include it in an update of Slashfix.

Did I forget to mention how atrocious the documentation on writing Firefox extensions is? Yes, it's pretty atrocious, just figuring out how to do something as trivial as attach to the document.onload events was nowhere to be found in documentation, had to find an example in somebody else's extension.

Re:How do I uninstall Firefox completely?

[brenQ(*)]

Delete your profile:
http://kb.mozillazine.org/index.phtml?title=Profil e_Folder [mozillazine.org]

Re:FP!

[ravenlock]

Yes there is. It's called all-in-one gestures. Look for it at http://update.mozilla.org/extensions/ under "mouse gestures". It's very configurable.