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More Fallout From FCC VoIP Decision 304

EconomyGuy writes "While many of us have been celebrating the recent FCC decision to keep regulation off of VoIP, but there may be some undesirable results for those progressive geeks who believe government should do more than provide military defense. As VoIP takes off as a replacement for the traditional copper-wire network, local and state governments are going to lose more and more funding for important services like 911 and Universal Service."
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More Fallout From FCC VoIP Decision

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  • by cfalcon ( 779563 ) on Saturday November 27, 2004 @07:28AM (#10930167)
    I would argue that it's simply not the government's role to burden communications with taxes.

    One argument in the article is "not taxing this is not fair, because regular phones are taxed". This is a true statement, but I would argue that the *existing* taxes are an arbitrary joke: Americans are forced to pay per minute rates on "long distance" (meaning, another state, even though the actual route to another state and the same one could end up using the exact same satellite). Why? Well, it's because the goverment *taxes* based on per minute usage. Stating that the only way to achieve equality is to apply the same flawed system equally is not good logic.

    If the functionality of 911 is so important (I believe it is), then other ways can be brought about to pay for it. With the current market penetration of phones, it's not unreasonable to assume that almost everyone has access to 911, so an alternate method could be used, one that taxes everyone just as the current system does. It could even be rolled trivially into property taxes, it's can't be much because it's itemized on my monthly phone bill, and it is tiny.

    Saying that the only way we'll have goverment phone services or local governments gaining relevant revenue is to allow regulation of VOIP is beyond silly. There may be a difficult time of transition, but it's clear that progress is on the side of the new technology.

    But it's clear from the article what the *real* problem is:

    "The City of Seattle in 2003 collected $30 million from telephone utility taxes, its fourth largest source of revenue after property, B&O, and sales taxes."

    Here the argument becomes, "A technology to allow people to communicate was developed, and we allowed governments to tax it. Now that an alternative has come along, we need to allow governments to tax it or else the governments won't be getting as much of your money as they are used to."

    This is the same logic that would shut down an invention that generates endless free energy (Look at that electricity tax / the private sector that exists to deliver energy!), that would shut down an invention that creates delicious food out of thin air (sales tax / destroying the livelihood of farmers), a great solution in medicine that allowed people to be free of their various prescription drug dependencies... the same idea would oppose all of these things.

    Stepping out of utopia land, we can address the one thing we *can* replicate nearly for free, and realize that it is the same logic opposing free software.

    It is not good logic.
  • boo hoo (Score:5, Informative)

    by eclectro ( 227083 ) on Saturday November 27, 2004 @07:28AM (#10930170)
    local and state governments are going to lose more and more funding for important services like 911 and Universal Service

    I would agree 911 is an important phone service and should be provided.

    But all the other taxes?? I don't think so.

    The universl service fund was established to provide phone to rural areas. The question I have is "aren't rural areas wired already?". About internet for schools -- I say let the people who go to those schools pay for their own internet like I do. Libraries? I pay through the teeth through property taxes (Utah) already for library facilities.

    So much as the federal taxes go -- the federal tax was placed on the phone to pay for the war of 1812 -- isn't that war over and paid for yet? I know it has been used to pay for all the other wars since then, maybe I don't like to see war financed through my phone use.

    I know this is an oversimplification, but this represents a deep resentment of the government as it stands today, and I'm not to sure if I care if it crashes and burns. I'm sure others feel the same way -- that Washington (and many local governments) have lost touch with reality, as have the voters who keep "liars" in office on the basis of "moral" grounds.

    Yes I'm mad. Phone service can go away. I'll start to use carrier pigeon if necessary.

  • just the facts ma'am (Score:4, Informative)

    by Anonymous Coward on Saturday November 27, 2004 @08:12AM (#10930234)
    http://www.researchedge.com/uss/dev.html

    DEVELOPMENT AND INSTITUTIONALIZING OF UNIVERSAL SERVICE
    Historical Context:

    The term "Universal Service" was introduced in 1907 by Theodore Vail, then President of AT&T. However, in the early twentieth century it had quite a different meaning in practice. Due to basic incompatibility or a lack of interconnection, competing local phone companies could often not connect their respective customers to each other. "Dual service" or subscribing to both services with the attendant duplicate wiring and equipment was common, especially for businesses. Thus, Universal Service at first meant compatibility and interconnectivity of competing phone services that we today take for granted. It was only later that the term "Universal Service" became associated with a social compact to connect those disadvantaged by geography, income or other factors.

    The Mann-Elkins Act of 1910 gave regulatory jurisdiction for interstate telecommunications to the Interstate Commerce Commission (ICC), defining telephone companies as "common carriers" who were "to provide service on request at just and reasonable rates, without unjust discrimination or undue preference." The Communications Act of 1934, though not naming "Universal Service" specifically, lays out its basic tenets "so as to make available, so far as possible, to all people of the United States a rapid, efficient, nation-wide, and world-wide wire and radio communication service with adequate facilities at reasonable charges." Establishing the separate Federal Communications Commission, the act gave the commission new powers to regulate tariffs and services but expressly limited federal authority to interstate service. In 1994, the sixtieth anniversary of the Communications Act of 1934, President Bill Clinton said:

    When President Franklin D. Roosevelt signed this historic legislation so many years ago, few realized the dramatic changes in communications that the future would hold. Yet that stroke of the pen ushered in the beginnings of the Information Age, an era in which vast amounts of knowledge flow freely across continents and circle the globe in a matter of seconds.

    Today, as we celebrate the vision of the authors of the Communications Act, we are still defining the role that telecommunications technology will play in our society. With a universe of electronic information at our fingertips, we can better educate our people, promote democracy, save lives, and create jobs across America. As we work to enhance the partnership between the public and private sectors, we continue to draw inspiration from the original Communications Act, which has long served to benefit all of our citizens and to propel our nation into the future.
    (Federal Communications Law Journal, Vol. 47, No. 2, December, 1994)

    There subsequently developed a series of programs, structures and protocols to encourage and enforce the expectation that basic local and long distance telephone service be available to all. The major components insuring ubiquitous availability of plain old telephone service (POTS) and other consumer services such as "free" broadcasting have been as follows:

    Universal Service Fund (USF):

    The Federal Communications Commission (FCC), anticipating the breakup of the Bell System, established the National Exchange Carrier Association (NECA) in 1983 as a membership association of local telephone companies. NECA is a non-profit company directly regulated by the FCC to establish and administer interstate access revenues, access charge pooling and administer the Universal Service Fund (USF) to provide assistance to telephone companies in high-cost areas (primarily rural, but defined as those with costs in excess of 115 percent of the national average). The funds are collected from major long distance carriers and administered and dispensed by NECA. The funds are used to extend telephone service to previously unserved areas, help pay for system extensions and to keep basic rates low.

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  • by Anonymous Coward on Saturday November 27, 2004 @08:32AM (#10930262)
    Putting the Federal in the FCC

    Column by Sean Kellogg, Editor-at-Large

    Congress may be on a drive to push more and more social programs to the fiscally strapped States, hoping that such programs will die on the vine, but at the FCC the drive to federalize everything under the sun is still as strong as ever. In a recent unanimous decision, the Commission granted itself full jurisdictional authority over the emerging Voice over Internet Protocol (VoIP) telephony service that is poised to replace the aging copper network. The decision strips states and local government of important regulatory tools, strikes at a critical tax revenue source, and threatens a similar unregulated storm to the one that eventually caused the AT&T breakup.

    Before getting into the details of the decision, lets be frank about the scope of this issue. Today the FCC reports there are 182.8 million traditional telephone lines serving the American population. These lines used to be owned by AT&T until the company was broken up by a government consent decree. Out of the breakup came a handful of regional bells and the AT&T long distance provider. The breakup is a long, complicated story, but suffice to say that because of a lack of industry regulations, a massive interstate monopoly was allowed to form and dominate all telecommunications for decades.

    As a technology, VoIP is poised to replace the copper network with packet based voice communication running over the fiber network built during the early phases of the Internet revolution. Like with a cellular call, in this framework there is no distinction between a local and long distance. In fact, VoIP could eventually end the concept of a physical location in telecommunication, allowing for phone numbers to follow you across the globe. If fully embraced by the telecommunications industry and consumers, VoIP has the ability to completely replace the current phone system and any conceptions we have of how our phone operates.

    This sounds like an amazing offering to consumers and industry, and it is, but like any technology it has disruptive effects that must be considered. The current copper network is heavily regulated by state and local government. They asses a variety of utility taxes that ensure 911 emergency services, law enforcement surveillance compliance, access for the disabled, universal service, and other government projects. The City of Seattle in 2003 collected $30 million from telephone utility taxes, its fourth largest source of revenue after property, B&O, and sales taxes. These taxes are permitted under the Telecommunications Act (although there have been legal efforts to rule the franchise fee impermissible) so long as the services are "telecommunication services", but would be prohibited if the they were classified as an "information service" (think Internet Service Provider, Instant Messenger, etc). State and local governments are concerned that as telephone service providers switch off the copper networks and onto VoIP, the sizable tax base won't be quite so sizable.

    In an effort to stem the tide, the Minnesota Public Utilities Commission has drafted regulations to ensure that VoIP services operating within its jurisdiction paid its fair share of the 911 services and universal access costs. Vonage Holding Inc., one of the first to market VoIP services, sued in Federal District Court alleging that VoIP was an "information service" and thus not under State jurisdiction. The District Court agreed, placing a permanent injunction on the regulation, and after refusing to rehear the case, an appeal, currently pending, was filed with the 8th Circuit. A similar suit was filed by Vonage after the State of New York attempted to enforce similar VoIP regulations, and generated similar results.

    All of this legal footwork has not gone unnoticed by the Federal Communications Commission. Vonage concurrently started proceedings with the FCC when it filed with the Minnesota District Court. In the FCC proceeding it asked that (1) VoIP
  • by NBarnes ( 586109 ) on Saturday November 27, 2004 @08:48AM (#10930282)
    What do you think 'progressive' means? Christ.

    As for the hoary and facile 'big government' trope... dude, really. Look at the election returns over the last 16 years. That ship has bloody well sailed. There's a reason that domestic discretionary spending has been rising faster under Bush than under Clinton, there's a reason that a Republican Congress passed a huge (and I do mean huge) Medicare expansion which was signed by a Republican president, there's a reason that No Child Left Behind represents one of the biggest power grabs from local governments to the federal government in the last 30 years. The (political) argument over the size of the federal government is over, and your side didn't win. The majority, the vast majority, of the voting population wants bigger government. They want college grants for their children, as much health care as they can get, and insurance against disaster and/or old age.

    Now, it is possible to make an argument that they shouldn't want these things. But your side has lost, and lost hard, politically speaking.
  • by GoofyBoy ( 44399 ) on Saturday November 27, 2004 @09:29AM (#10930367) Journal
    >how huge corporations can extol the virtues of the 'American way,' 'free trade,' 'competition,' and the like only until the moment that they realize that they've become completely obsolete?

    Its corporations (the Baby Bells too) that are providing VoIP. I can't think of one major telecom company with land-based lines that don't have VoIP or plans to provide VoIP.

    >Then they fight like drowning rats using silly arguments

    Its the goverment that is pushing for taxation of VoIP and a corporation fighting against it.

    From the article:
    "the Minnesota Public Utilities Commission has drafted regulations to ensure that VoIP services operating within its jurisdiction paid its fair share of the 911 services and universal access costs. Vonage Holding Inc., one of the first to market VoIP services, sued in Federal District Court alleging that VoIP was an "information service" and thus not under State jurisdiction."
  • by Anonymous Coward on Saturday November 27, 2004 @09:58AM (#10930457)
    Besides, in regards to 911 calls, WTF happens if your computer is off and you need to make a call because your house is on fire, or their is a bugular in the house? Wait for it to boot up and THEN have to deal with the retarded 911 operator via a shitty VOIP connection, with no real way to trace your call?

    VOIP does not use your computer to place or recieve calls. You do not need to own a computer at all. All you need is a broadband internet connection. The VOIP company gives you a Voice Modem that you connect to your internet connection. You then plug your phone into that and your VOIP is fully installed.

    My experience with VOIP is that the phone quality is as good or better than traditional landlines. If you have enough bandwidth you will not be able to tell the difference. If your internet connection is down then why not dial 911 with your cell phone? People have been doing it for the last decade and cell phone call quality is more than 10 times worse than VOIP.

  • Re:911 sucks (Score:3, Informative)

    by KontinMonet ( 737319 ) on Saturday November 27, 2004 @12:39PM (#10931278) Homepage Journal
    I was referring to the Japanese guy who knocked on someone's door in the US hoping to ask for directions but was shot dead instead...
  • 911 Charges, etc (Score:2, Informative)

    by ReeprFlame ( 745959 ) <kc2lto@SOMETHINGgmail.com> on Saturday November 27, 2004 @01:24PM (#10931540) Homepage
    911 is now becominig Enhanced 911 [E911] and if I am not mistaken, the FCC or state requires charges too customers for this service. This is definatly required for cell services and would make sense as well to be required for VoIP. Vonage is my current carrier and they charge A few extra bucks a month for maintainance in the 911 field. I do not think that it is much of a problem. Even if companies are not funding it, the company simply routes it to the nearest facility. This facility is usually your local police HQ which is run by your taxes, and therefore still in operation.
  • by absurdist ( 758409 ) on Saturday November 27, 2004 @02:09PM (#10931819)
    Saving $40 a month is almost $500 a year which goes a long way towards paying off hefty healthcare bills and credit cards to make up for our lack of services.

    ROFLMAO!!!!!!!!!

    If you think $500 a year will even put a dent in healthcare bills here in the US, I suggest you put down the crack pipe. A good friend of mine recently was laid off where I work. His healthcare insurance premium, for himself and his wife, for appalingly mediocre benefits, is over $800 a MONTH. Have you EVER had to go to a doctor for anything remotely major and pay for it out of your own pocket? It'll cost a hell of a lot more than that roughly $10,000 than my friend is now expected to shell out per year.

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