TorrentBits.org and SuprNova.org Go Dark 1260
Numerous people wrote in with similar stories: "Without providing a reason, both of these sites have shut down: SuprNova.org and TorrentBits.org." We mentioned a few days ago that the MPAA was going after Bittorrent sites.
Not only SN and TB (Score:1, Informative)
Suprnova Mirror (Score:5, Informative)
As everybody should be able to figure out... (Score:5, Informative)
Greetings everybody, As you have probably noticed, we have often had downtimes. This was because it was so hard to keep this site up! But now we are sorry to inform you all, that SuprNova is closing down for good in the way that we all know it. We do not know if SuprNova is going to return, but it is certainly not going to be hosting any more torrent links. We are very sorry for this, but there was no other way, we have tried everything. Thank you all that helped us, by donating mirrors or something else, by uploading and seeding files, by helping people out on IRC and on forum, by spreading the word about SuprNova.org. It is a sad day for all of us! Please visit SuprNova.org every once in a while to get the latest news on what is happening and if there is anything new to report on. As we wish to maintain the nice comunity that we created, we are keppig forums and irc servers open. Thank you all and Goodbye! sloncek & the rest of the SuprNova Team
Sounds like they hit him hard (Score:2, Informative)
Re:Damn it! (Score:3, Informative)
Re:who else? (Score:5, Informative)
This is going to be a huge issue for all the new/small torrents sites - how do they work with the load that millions of new users demand?
BTW: If you have an IRC client, you can join #bt, #bt-gm and #tvtorrents on efnet. #bt and #tvtorrents serves TV show torrents and #bt-gm serves torrents for games and movies.
Since it's IRC it stands a somewhat better chance of surviving.
If you click into the links (Score:3, Informative)
Re:Damn it! (Score:2, Informative)
IRC Link (Score:1, Informative)
Re:So it goes. (Score:2, Informative)
Reply from Admin? (Score:5, Informative)
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AT LAST!
I've got a chance to reply to some of these rumours and wild speculation!
(YES - this is going to be one of the Puppy's long boring posts,
but if you don't read it all, don't bother replying - NO CRIB NOTES AVAILABLE)
Firstly, I have to say,
I am extremely dissapointed with the response from some of the members of the TB community.
Scare-mongering and spreading rumours is not the most helpful thing to do in a situation like this!
I know everyone is unhappy about it, but don't burn your bridges with insults or by playing the blame game!
Secondly,
I am extremely delighted with the reponse form some of the members of the TB community.
Members like DeeJee, and Warlok, who are trying to keep us all together,
to get the correct information out. There are probably more that I don't know about yet....
and all those working behind the scenes.... Thanks guys
OK lets get down to it.
A few facts:-
- I am extremely sad to report, that I have just found out that, TB, as we know it, is DEAD.
- The full reason why Rb choose to close down is still not yet known
- Rb was "on holiday" when the site went down, and is in no position to put it back up again,
or explain anything, until he gets back
- There was a Ddos attack - After the site went down!
One more fact:-
Nobody, REPEAT, nobody, except Redbeard knows what Redbeard is planning to do.
Keep watching torrentbits.org for a statement.
It's the ONLY place to get the full facts
No worries (Score:3, Informative)
Also, check out it's sister site: www.mufftorrent.com [mufftorrent.com]
IRC announces suprnova is dead (Score:3, Informative)
Re:Damn it! (Score:1, Informative)
Try www.thepiratebay.com [thepiratebay.com]. It's a Swedish website, so you can even support other Scandanavians... ;)
It's listing several season 4 episodes at the moment.
Re:Exeem (Score:2, Informative)
Re:Exeem (Score:2, Informative)
Re:Damn it! (Score:0, Informative)
Re:Reason (Score:5, Informative)
A "we know we probably can't nail you properly, but our lawyers can make life tough on you for years to come - so just leave town, and do it tonight" - deal?
Re:Reason (Score:2, Informative)
Re:Not only SN and TB (Score:5, Informative)
LokiTorrent is still around, but who knows for how long?
Interestingly, Suprnova posted torrents for Firefox, Thunderbird and other legal software. They helped share the load for legal software developers, regardless of what warez was shared by their users.
All these sites will be sorely missed by many.
Re:Damn it! (Score:2, Informative)
Re:Closing in advance of raids (Score:4, Informative)
Yes Torrentbits has detailed records of user accounts - what they've uploaded, and what they've downloaded.
But...
Your IP is only attached to that user account on a temporary basis. As soon as you stop seeding or leeching a Torrentbit torrent they no longer have a record of your IP.
If the **AA wants to collect your IP address they simply have to join the swarm. Getting their hands on Torrentbits records will in no way aid them in their attemps to collect IP addresses.
Most large tracker sites have long abandoned the pratice of tracking their users via IP address. Many sites now attach a "key" to every
So there is info in their database, but nothing that can be used to attach any particular user with their real-life self.
Re:As everybody should be able to figure out... (Score:3, Informative)
Try the TV torrent sites. (Score:5, Informative)
btefnet.net
The MPAA and RIAA have little reason to go after them.
Re:Closing in advance of raids (Score:1, Informative)
I'm the original anonymous coward you responded to. Thanks for explaining this. It makes me feel better.
Usenet is your friend (Score:4, Informative)
Torrentbits Community (Score:2, Informative)
sad sad day.... (Score:2, Informative)
still sad to see suprnova gone after all this time...
www.dvdr-core.org down too (Score:2, Informative)
Re:Trackers or Indexers? (Score:2, Informative)
It's many times faster and easier to download yourself a backup for perfectly legit purposes. One could claim that if the user isn't able to achieve backup, he has no use for the backup itself -- yet that's not always the case. Dreamcast is the perfect example of this. You may not end up with a perfect backup (ie, GD-ROM), but a CD-ROM with the exact same data works just as well.
In 50 years from now, what will become of our old physical formats? Will digitized images of them be easier to access than the old counterparts? Of course.
Just because something can be used for criminal purposes does not mean it will be. We should always take that into consideration, and plan accordingly for the future.
Re:Dear TV companies... (Score:2, Informative)
"notice of infringement" emails have already hit (Score:5, Informative)
Infringement Detail:
Infringing Work: Grudge, The
Filepath: The.Grudge.SCREENER-VideoCD.torrent|CD1
Filename
First Found: 18 Dec 2004 04:21:14 EST (GMT -0500)
Last Found: 18 Dec 2004 04:21:14 EST (GMT -0500)
Filesize: 14,648k
IP Address:
IP Port: 58546
Network: BTPeers
Protocol: BitTorrent
Apparently the RIAA has been sampling the swarms or getting their data from somewhere like that. This torrent was gotten from Suprnova... was that "paper" we saw the other day here on slashdot linked to any data they collected that the RIAA might have dipped into?
Re:Closing in advance of raids (Score:1, Informative)
Re:Closing in advance of raids (Score:1, Informative)
mnb Re:Closing in advance of raids (Score:1, Informative)
You are assuming that the email address given is a legit one. Even if the email address in their records is legit then they have to subpoena Hotmail or whoever (unless you were foolish enough to not only use a real email address but to use your ISP's email).
Even if they have your real email address, that proves nothing. It proves who created the account, it does not prove who used the account. Weak evidence, and with 100,000 Torrentbits users they can (will) pick and choose who they go after.
Re:Trackers or Indexers? (Score:2, Informative)
Re:Usenet (Score:3, Informative)
SBC and Road Runner choke it down so badly that it's just not feasible to get large files or large volumes of files through usenet.
Re:who else? (Score:5, Informative)
Re:Suprnova Mirror (Score:4, Informative)
Re:Making movies is a costly venture (Score:2, Informative)
The market has set the price for DVDs; it is the price that the pirates sell at.
To recap:
Reduce the costs (no advertising means less staff to deal with the advertising which means less office space which.....etc)
Make a few cents on each VCD sold (and more on the download).
Make even more cents on each label-less DVD (more on download).
Make a few dollars on each fancy boxed set.
Make a few dollars at the theatre.
And this will remove the demand for pirated movies too, as customers can 'preview' a film on a grotty format before paying big bucks for higher quality versions all of which you will make money on . You can even put trailers for your other films on the discs.
vcd and low quality dvd copies of your film will be availible on streetcorners whatever you do, do you want to make money on those sales or not?
Re:who else? (Score:5, Informative)
Update: it's not dead (Score:5, Informative)
According to efnet:#tvtorrents, they are just having DNS problems. Hopefully tvtorrents will recover!
Shut off google? (Score:3, Informative)
Much as they are doing for some other countries now..
Re:Can't say I'm sad (Score:3, Informative)
Google for 17 USC 512.
If you're concerned about what they're posting links to, you need to read 17 USC 512(d), (c)(2), (c)(3), and (i)-(k).
If you're concerned about what users are uploading to their site, you need to read 17 USC 512(c), (g), and (i)-(k).
THOSE set forth the applicable criteria. There's a lot of them, and they're not terribly complex but long enough that I didn't feel like posting them here.
What you've posted would not qualify at all. The protection doesn't run to an entity that walks like a search engine and quacks like a search engine. It runs to entities that fall within the statute and take the affirmative steps necessary to comply with it.
This having been all done, I'd be impressed if you could run a torrent site like suprnova that was popular and useful while still staying within the boundaries of the law.
Re:who else? (Score:4, Informative)
Re:Damn it! (Score:3, Informative)
Now, while the broadcasters must fill 60% of the airtime with Canadian produced shows, that still leaves the remaining 40%. This is typically filled with US shows because they tend to be cheap, and get good ratings. This creates some interesting situations. For example, CTV (who produce Degrassi) license The Sopranos from HBO. When an application to the CRTC (Canadian Radio-television and Telecommunications Commission) to allow cable and satellite providers to provide HBO to Canadians, it was rejected because it would put it in direct competition with CTV because of The Sopranos licensing. The refusal to carry CTV by US cable and satellite providers is likely the same, except for the reversed situation. Or maybe they're afraid of pissing off people who believe Ann Coulter's claims that Canadians hate Americans because we don't agree with every US policy (just to clarify, most of us don't like Bush, and we've NEVER agreed with ALL US policies).
To most Americans, the cancon laws seem quaint, and pretty silly. But, in a country that still measures the relative success of a musical band by if they managed to hit it off in the United States, these laws have probably helped more than they've hurt. Besides, we still consume lots of US movies, music and television programming (among other things).
SuprNova Closing FAQ (Score:3, Informative)
According to the (Score:3, Informative)
Re:As everybody should be able to figure out... (Score:3, Informative)
Empornium [empornium.us]!
tvtorrents.net (Score:4, Informative)
Yes you can (Score:2, Informative)
Let's say I see a /. post that is going to be censored but contains material that I think is important to get out there (like copyrighted Scientology texts, or maybe Windows source code).
Assuming I have a halfway stable connection, in roughly 5 minutes I can create a torrent and host it myself using Azureus' built-in tracker. I can either post a link to the ad hoc tracker ("http://123.456.989:6969/" or "http://mymachine.dyndns.org:6969") or post the .torrent file itself here on on IRC or whatever. When I'm done I shut down Azureus and the tracker goes away.
Peers as trackers is as distributed as you can get.
Re:who else? (Score:3, Informative)
Re:who else? (Score:4, Informative)
Secondly, ed2k isn't slow because of the protocol itself so much as the queueing system. With ed2k you *will* spend most of your time simply waiting to download a file. When I used it regularly, I found that you generally had to have at least 20-30 things queued up to have *something* downloading at all time. ed2k is great for finding older or obscure files, but I wouldn't call it a replacement for the pure power that a torrent leverages.
Slashdot didn't really cave (Score:5, Informative)
Re:who else? (Score:3, Informative)
If you are seriously interested, though, I think it would be wise to ask people from sharereactor.ru, nnm.ru and the like, who have experience running "shady" sites and more importantly, getting ad money to finance them. May be they can offer some advice.
Re:Usenet (Score:3, Informative)
SBC and Road Runner choke it down so badly
Bzzzzt!
Sorry, usenet is not your ISP's news server.
Subscribe to any good news service (newscene, giganews, easynews, yada yada) and the bandwidth your ISP allocates to you will be maxed out almost as fast as your hard drive will fill up.
Re:Exeem (Score:2, Informative)
And with each update you go through each line and verfiy that its safe?
I totally agree with where your coming from, but your just pulling the bullshit card when saying that you only use open source software because its secure because you can check to make sure nothing is install that shouldnt be.
Because most people never check.
Unlikely (Score:3, Informative)
[Querying whois.publicinterestregistry.net]
[whois.publici
. .
Domain ID:D96700160-LROR
Domain Name:SUPRNOVA.ORG
Created On:04-Apr-2003 21:28:07 UTC
Last Updated On:06-Dec-2004 15:03:21 UTC
Expiration Date:04-Apr-2009 21:28:07 UTC
Sponsoring Registrar:Go Daddy Software, Inc. (R91-LROR)
Status:CLIENT DELETE PROHIBITED
Status:CLIENT RENEW PROHIBITED
Status:CLIENT TRANSFER PROHIBITED
Status:CLIENT UPDATE PROHIBITED
Registrant ID:GODA-07362285
Registrant Name:Registration Private
Registrant Organization:Domains by Proxy, Inc.
Registrant Street1:15111 N Hayden Rd., Suite 160
Registrant Street2:PMB353
Registrant Street3:
Registrant City:Scottsdale
Registrant State/Province:Arizona
Registrant Postal Code:85260
Registrant Country:US
Registrant Phone:+1.4806242599
Registrant Phone Ext.:
Registrant FAX:
Registrant FAX Ext.:
Registrant Email:SUPRNOVA.ORG@domainsbyproxy.com
. . .
I Present: GTorrent (Score:5, Informative)
GTorrent.png [207.6.235.74]
Download:
GTorrent.zip [207.6.235.74]
It actually works quite well. Be sure to play with the options, the default timeout is set to one second (because when your searching ~50 links one second takes a long time) and may reject valid torrents.
The program is witten in C# and the binaries and source are included. If you get an error when you run it you need the .NET Framework (link above).
Also, for the love of god, be very gentle. My machine is very old and it's connection very poor.
GTorrent v2.0.0 (Score:2, Informative)
I rewrote it to use the Google Web API (and comply with Google's Terms of Use).
As an upside it now returns more results, but as a downside you need a Google Web API Licence Key to use it (if you already have a GMail account just fill in your login and you'll get one no hassle). See the readme.txt for more info (And how to obtain a key).