Is Apache 2.0 Worth the Switch for PHP?

Is Apache 2.0 Worth the Switch for PHP? 465

Posted by michael on Tuesday December 21, 2004 @03:30PM from the play-nicely-children dept.

An anonymous reader writes "It seems like some of the members of the Apache Software Foundation are a little angry with the PHP Community because they don't recommend using Apache 2.0 with PHP. Since PHP is installed on half of all Apache servers this is a major issue for them. A number of high-profile PHP community members such as John Coggeshall and Chris Shiflett have blogged about this decision in light of a recent posting by Apache Software Foundation Member Rich Bowen which called PHP's anti-Apache2 stance FUD. Is there any real reason for the PHP community to start recommending Apache 2.0, especially when the 1.3.x series of Apache is rock solid and proven? Note Rich did later commend PHP for being a great product, so it's not all flames."

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Perl vs PHP: The final showdown (Score:0, Funny)

by Anonymous Coward writes: on Tuesday December 21, 2004 @03:33PM (#11150749)

Let the battle commence [tnx.nl]
So there you have it PHP sucks in comparison to perl, because some guy on the internet says so. Now aren't you glad you stuck with your arcane-obfuscated-gibberish parser?

Re:apache2 is essential for Windows (Score:5, Funny)

by Anonymous Coward writes: on Tuesday December 21, 2004 @03:34PM (#11150772)

Anybody still running Apache1 on Windows is nuts. Apache2 works way better on Windows.

Anyone still running Windows is nuts ;)

I'm sorry Bruce, you'll have to come back later. (Score:5, Funny)

by Mr Guy ( 547690 ) writes: on Tuesday December 21, 2004 @03:37PM (#11150804) Journal

It's not nearly late enough in the thread for someone respected to post correct, non-inflamatory, rational information.

You're going to stop all the foaming at the mouth, and who wants a half-frothed troll this close to Christmas?

Re:apache2 is essential for Windows (Score:1, Funny)

by Anonymous Coward writes: on Tuesday December 21, 2004 @03:39PM (#11150819)

> Anyone still running Windows is nuts ;)

Anyone who runs thru windows is nuts!

No its not worth it, (Score:5, Funny)

by Jason Hood ( 721277 ) writes: on Tuesday December 21, 2004 @03:49PM (#11150976)

Stick with kernel 1.3.79 and Apache 1.1 just to be "safe".

Re:apache2 is essential for Windows (Score:5, Funny)

by KilobyteKnight ( 91023 ) writes: <bjm&midsouth,rr,com> on Tuesday December 21, 2004 @03:49PM (#11150977) Homepage

Anyone who eats nuts is Windows!

How much longer can we keep this joke going?

Anyone who wants to keep this joke going is nuts.

Re:I'm sorry Bruce, you'll have to come back later (Score:5, Funny)

by Bruce Perens ( 3872 ) writes: <bruce@perens.com> on Tuesday December 21, 2004 @03:53PM (#11151028) Homepage Journal

It's OK because I didn't read any of the articles linked to in the Slashdot story before posting. Thus, I maintain the proper level of ignorance for Slashdot.
On the other hand, I had looked at the problem reasonably hard when choosing supported software for UserLinux, so I did know something about the problem. So perhaps that disqualifies me.
Bruce

Re:apache2 is essential for Windows (Score:3, Funny)

by Randolpho ( 628485 ) writes: on Tuesday December 21, 2004 @03:57PM (#11151078) Homepage Journal

Anyone who windows these nutz is joking.

Not up to us ... (Score:4, Funny)

by A nonymous Coward ( 7548 ) * writes: on Tuesday December 21, 2004 @04:01PM (#11151147)

How much longer can we keep this joke going?

Talk to Microsoft, it's them what's keeping the joke going.

Re:Frontpage (Score:2, Funny)

by slacker775 ( 611528 ) writes: on Tuesday December 21, 2004 @04:13PM (#11151297) Homepage

If Frontpage extensions are not available for Apache 2, that sounds like an extremely compelling reason to use 2.0! Frontpage extensions should never be used in any way, shape or form IMHO. I suppose they can actually be secured in some fashion, but I've never encountered any organization that succeeded at it. These are always backdoors into web defacements and depending on the architecture, the organization itself.

Re:apache2 is essential for Windows (Score:3, Funny)

by rabbit994 ( 686936 ) writes: on Tuesday December 21, 2004 @04:21PM (#11151446)

Actually, Windows 2003 IIS is quite nice. I know I'm going to get flamed and probably modded down but if your stuck on Windows 2003 (in particular) IIS 6 > Apache. Note, I've tested PHP on IIS 6 over Apache with PHP. IIS 6 was faster, more secure (assuming patched) and used less CPU. No, I didn't do any official study, that's was my findings personally. I found people who bitch about IIS 6 have either a. not used it or b. Are poor Windows admins or maybe both.

Re:apache2 is essential for Windows (Score:3, Funny)

by iamlucky13 ( 795185 ) writes: on Tuesday December 21, 2004 @04:23PM (#11151469)

Anyone who wants to keep this joke going is nuts.
Anyone who is nuts will keep this joke going.

Re:apache2 is essential for Windows (Score:3, Funny)

by jd ( 1658 ) writes: <[moc.oohay] [ta] [kapimi]> on Tuesday December 21, 2004 @04:32PM (#11151611) Homepage Journal

Apache runs anybody on nuts through a window.

Re:apache2 is essential for Windows (Score:3, Funny)

by Evil Grinn ( 223934 ) writes: on Tuesday December 21, 2004 @04:36PM (#11151669)

Anyone who wants to keep his nuts will use Apache2.

Re:PHP used to be an ASF project (Score:5, Funny)

by JamesOfTheDesert ( 188356 ) writes: on Tuesday December 21, 2004 @04:40PM (#11151735) Journal

But then again I'm a perl developer and php is obsolete to me.
Hello, pot? This is kettle ...

Re:apache2 is essential for Windows (Score:1, Funny)

by Anonymous Coward writes: on Tuesday December 21, 2004 @04:47PM (#11151822)

Mornington cresent Oh sorry wrong joke.

Re:apache2 is essential for Windows (Score:1, Funny)

by hwyengr ( 839340 ) writes: on Tuesday December 21, 2004 @05:05PM (#11152084)

In Soviet Russia, Windows nuts YOU!

Re:apache2 is essential for Windows (Score:3, Funny)

by khendron ( 225184 ) writes: on Tuesday December 21, 2004 @05:11PM (#11152181) Homepage

Anybody reading this far is now nuts.

Re:No need to switch ... (Score:2, Funny)

by garcia ( 6573 ) * writes: on Tuesday December 21, 2004 @05:17PM (#11152255)

If you have very large numbers of processes, the O(1) scheduler alone is enough of a reason. For personal use, I find the low latency quite a good reason to change.

I suppose it depends on what you use the machine for. Linux isn't ready for the desktop so I don't run a GUI on it. Thus I really have no latency issues running maild/httpd/sshd/etcd.

Re:No need to switch ... (Score:3, Funny)

by Saeed al-Sahaf ( 665390 ) writes: on Tuesday December 21, 2004 @05:19PM (#11152280) Homepage

I run a FreeBSD server with Apache 1.3.33
One 3 too many, and one 7 short of 1337! Work on it. Maybe install Slack or something...

OT: Great sig (Score:5, Funny)

by ConceptJunkie ( 24823 ) writes: on Tuesday December 21, 2004 @05:20PM (#11152306) Homepage Journal

The problems with Christianity and D&D are essentially the same: too many people RTFM, but don't comprehend it.

Great sig!

The good thing about Christianity is that the DM is much, much better. Or at least more consistent.

The bad thing is that He can't be bought off with a six-pack of Dew and a pizza.

The good thing about D&D is that the DM is usually your friend and will try to make it so you have fun.

The bad thing is that the DM can give you millions of gold pieces, +8 everything and make you king of world or even a god, but you still gotta go to work/class on Monday morning.

Re:PHP used to be an ASF project (Score:3, Funny)

by Taladar ( 717494 ) writes: on Tuesday December 21, 2004 @06:08PM (#11153051)

My personal opinion is that PHP should start again, like Microsoft often does.
You misspelled "seldom"

Re:apache2 is essential for Windows (Score:3, Funny)

by kayen_telva ( 676872 ) writes: on Tuesday December 21, 2004 @08:58PM (#11154635)

Apache can run farther on nutz than windoze.

Re:FUD in it's purest form ... (Score:1, Funny)

by Anonymous Coward writes: on Tuesday December 21, 2004 @09:12PM (#11154731)

Open Source doesn't like to do unnecessary work.

Tell that to the GNOME people.

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Is Apache 2.0 Worth the Switch for PHP?

Perl vs PHP: The final showdown (Score:0, Funny)

Re:apache2 is essential for Windows (Score:5, Funny)

I'm sorry Bruce, you'll have to come back later. (Score:5, Funny)

Re:apache2 is essential for Windows (Score:1, Funny)

No its not worth it, (Score:5, Funny)

Re:apache2 is essential for Windows (Score:5, Funny)

Re:I'm sorry Bruce, you'll have to come back later (Score:5, Funny)

Re:apache2 is essential for Windows (Score:3, Funny)

Not up to us ... (Score:4, Funny)

Re:Frontpage (Score:2, Funny)

Re:apache2 is essential for Windows (Score:3, Funny)

Re:apache2 is essential for Windows (Score:3, Funny)

Re:apache2 is essential for Windows (Score:3, Funny)

Re:apache2 is essential for Windows (Score:3, Funny)

Re:PHP used to be an ASF project (Score:5, Funny)

Re:apache2 is essential for Windows (Score:1, Funny)

Re:apache2 is essential for Windows (Score:1, Funny)

Re:apache2 is essential for Windows (Score:3, Funny)

Re:No need to switch ... (Score:2, Funny)

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OT: Great sig (Score:5, Funny)

Re:PHP used to be an ASF project (Score:3, Funny)

Re:apache2 is essential for Windows (Score:3, Funny)

Re:FUD in it's purest form ... (Score:1, Funny)

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