Xfce 4.2.0 Released 275
kelnos copies and pastes: "The Xfce Team is pleased to announce the availability of Xfce 4.2.0, the next major version of the Xfce Desktop Environment and Development Framework for Unix and Unix-like platforms. Xfce 4.2.0 can be downloaded here. Xfce 4.2.0 includes new applications like a session manager and an application finder, a new and beautiful icon theme, support for bleeding-edge features (like the X.org Composite extension), usability and performance improvements, better support for multihead desktops, new and updated translations, additional themes, and various other improvements over the previous stable releases. See this page for a complete list of changes between Xfce 4.0 and Xfce 4.2. Furthermore, Xfce 4.2 is the first desktop environment to ship with an easy-to-use and platform-independent graphical installation wizard, which takes care of compiling and installing Xfce on your system. Visit the os-cillation installers website for download links and instructions. If you want to try Xfce 4.2.0 first, without installing anything on your system, you might want to try the Xfce Live Demo 0.2, provided by os-cillation, to discover the power and efficiency of Xfce."
torrent (Score:4, Informative)
nice (Score:2, Informative)
Re:How lightweight, if it requires gtk+? (Score:5, Informative)
Re:How lightweight, if it requires gtk+? (Score:2, Informative)
Re:How lightweight, if it requires gtk+? (Score:5, Informative)
fluxbox
Re:No... (Score:2, Informative)
Re:One reason why I'm still using Window Maker.... (Score:3, Informative)
Yeah... I'm also still using WindowMaker, and it's great, the only thing that I don't like is the lack of UTF-8 support...
Re:How lightweight, if it requires gtk+? (Score:5, Informative)
For any decent-sized drive (128MB and up) on any computer built within the past ten years, XFCE would be fine.
Re:One reason why I'm still using Window Maker.... (Score:3, Informative)
Aaah yes, canned Mac troll #17... (Score:5, Informative)
(see http://www.kottke.org/98/11/ for a nearly word-for-word identical post made 6 years ago)
Re:Screenshots (Score:2, Informative)
Re:How lightweight, if it requires gtk+? (Score:2, Informative)
I started using it after I got tired of the mainstream window managers, fluxbox included.
Re:Building. (Score:2, Informative)
However, it is _much_ (several times) slower to load (they have a splash engine now). However, I don't do this very often, so that doesn't really matter.
Re:One reason why I'm still using Window Maker.... (Score:3, Informative)
Re:Focus policy? (Score:3, Informative)
Re:How lightweight, if it requires gtk+? (Score:4, Informative)
http://www.os-works.com/view/debian/
--For the impatient:
deb http://www.os-works.com/debian testing main
deb-src http://www.os-works.com/debian testing main
--I spent like 10 minutes going round the bend with their stupid circular links to find that!!
Re:One reason why I'm still using Window Maker.... (Score:1, Informative)
CONFIG_PREEMPT=y
See if that helps. Also try enabling mmio for your networking. X does a lot of its shit over Unix domain sockets (the default), or TCP (if you enable it). Both are slow. Using memory-mapped io for your socket communications can speed things up.
Re:One reason why I'm still using Window Maker.... (Score:3, Informative)
Re:One reason why I'm still using Window Maker.... (Score:5, Informative)
Basically the problem is that X, your WM, and your program run (and therefore redraw) during different timeslots. In case of GNOME and KDE, they may call other servers out of process before doing the drawing. This becomes really noticable when you move windows, or windows appear.
XDamage and XComposite should solve the problem when you move the windows, as only the buffer actually moves, and no redraws are issued. I am not sure if it will help you get more smooth menues.
And no, XComposite is not enabled by default, because it is beta code, and some applications can behave funny.
I will resume my opinion of Xfce in three words... (Score:4, Informative)
Seriously, give it a whirl, specially if you're unenchanted with KDE/GNOME's last offerings or have older hardware and want to run something better looking than Fluxbox [fluxbox.org]. XFCE has got an increased number of users since version 4, and with good reason. It's great.
The 4.2 version fixes a number of issues with the previous 4.x ones - namely, session management, better configuration options and interface polish, specially in stuff like the taskbar and the panel. The only thing i imagine lacking from XFCE are desktop icons, and they're scheduled for a future version.
Re:One reason why I'm still using Window Maker.... (Score:4, Informative)
Re:How lightweight, if it requires gtk+? (Score:2, Informative)
Re:How lightweight, if it requires gtk+? (Score:4, Informative)
IceWM [icewm.org] is my favorite.
Re:I am a developer on the Xfce 4.2.0 release (Score:5, Informative)
Too bad. I'm one of the people who puts a lot of time in xfce
PS oh yeah to the
PS2 thx to the xfce.org crew... now get back to work for 4.4.0 !
Installer (Score:2, Informative)
Terrific. Now we can subvert our package management systems, and screw up our computers just like Windows users do. In no time at all we'll be formatting our hard drives and reinstalling everything from scratch on an annual basis. Maybe then GNU/Linux will be considered "ready for the desktop".
Re:Best Alternative (Score:3, Informative)
if you absolutely must clutter your desktop with files and icons. add to XFCE the ROX filer from here [sourceforge.net]
it will give you the ability to have thousands of icons and files on your desktop as well as that comforting "my computer" that makes your computer all warm and fuzzy.
Congratulations... (Score:3, Informative)
AGAIN.
It's the e(X)tremely (f)*cking (c)de-like (e)nvironment.
Again... congrats.
GJC